4th Gen Suspension Options/FAQ

[Heffernan]

I got 2.5" out 883s with a v8. Matched with wheeler T13 out back with netted about 1.5".

This picture is how it it's right now with 265/75r16 Falkens. Hope this helps and doesn't just add to your confusion.

Did you need to add UCAs and a diff drop?

 

[LaZorChicKen]

Nice, got any pics? I'm debating 884s vs 885s for mine (V6, SW front bumper, already have 5100s).

885/895
Billy 5100s
Method 701
Cheap 285/70/17 for work
BFG KO2s for wheeling

 

[mkscrewy]

well, I’m kinda back to square 1 here in this thread. right before this whole coronavirus shut-down hit I placed an order from Wheelers for a set of Bilstein 5100s, with OME 2887s for the front and t12 springs for the back. my goal was to do a mild lift of around 2” on my 2004 v8 and go up a tire size to 265/70/17s.

I bought the 887s based on a conversation with a Wheeler rep, who said I’d yield 2”-2.25” with a V8. then I saw this gent’s post in another thread:

Teasing the sequoias on the rig I have spacers on right now. Gonna wrap in 285/75/17 falken AT3s.

Both wheels have 265/65/17 for reference.

He’s also running 5100s with the OME 2887 springs. That’s way more lift than I was expecting and looking to do.

Thanks to a couple of other users (@eleven14 and [MENTION=204425]The-Wood[/MENTION]) I realized I’d gotten bum advice from Wheelers and will now have to wrangle with returns. I have pretty limited knowledge in this area (obviously). Since my 4runner is still on original shocks and springs, I bought the fronts pre-assembled. I’m looking for a front spring recommendation from people with experience: still looking for a mild lift and would like to avoid messing too much with replacing parts etc. due to the change in height.

note: I previously read through this entire thread, thought I had good info, now feeling a little lost again. Looking to get it right this time. Thanks in advance for any insight!

 

[andreylights]

well, I’m kinda back to square 1 here in this thread. right before this whole coronavirus shut-down hit I placed an order from Wheelers for a set of Bilstein 5100s, with OME 2887s for the front and t12 springs for the back. my goal was to do a mild lift of around 2” on my 2004 v8 and go up a tire size to 265/70/17s.

I bought the 887s based on a conversation with a Wheeler rep, who said I’d yield 2”-2.25” with a V8. then I saw this gent’s post in another thread:



He’s also running 5100s with the OME 2887 springs. That’s way more lift than I was expecting and looking to do.

Thanks to a couple of other users (@eleven14 and [MENTION=204425]The-Wood[/MENTION]) I realized I’d gotten bum advice from Wheelers and will now have to wrangle with returns. I have pretty limited knowledge in this area (obviously). Since my 4runner is still on original shocks and springs, I bought the fronts pre-assembled. I’m looking for a front spring recommendation from people with experience: still looking for a mild lift and would like to avoid messing too much with replacing parts etc. due to the change in height.

note: I previously read through this entire thread, thought I had good info, now feeling a little lost again. Looking to get it right this time. Thanks in advance for any insight!

do you know if he used 0 setting on billies? Cos according to specs you should get around 2-2.5" with v8 and 887

 

[The-Wood]

After driving around for a week and getting an alignment... I netted 2.25" with 883s set to 0 on the 5100s

 

[eleven14]

well, I’m kinda back to square 1 here in this thread. right before this whole coronavirus shut-down hit I placed an order from Wheelers for a set of Bilstein 5100s, with OME 2887s for the front and t12 springs for the back. my goal was to do a mild lift of around 2” on my 2004 v8 and go up a tire size to 265/70/17s.

Here's a thread with more info on 4th gen and 887s, might help. I originally went with Moog FJ springs and 5100s which gave me a small lift and leveled me out but am already swapping for OME/Superflex springs. It's a disease, haha...

 

[RickF]

Been researching suspension lift options for my new to me 2005 Limited V8 4WD, going cross-eyed poring over the forums and looking at all the options. Aiming to get about 2.5" lift out front and enough out back to either level or have a slight positive rake. No plans to add bumpers or other built on weight although I will be carrying gear around on a frequent basis. Was originally intending on putting a Fox 2.0 setup on this vehicle but decided to go with a more budget friendly option since this isn't the cleanest example to start out with.

Right now my intended combo is-

Bilstein 5100 struts & OME 884 coils out front
Bilstein 5100 shocks & OME 895E coils in the rear

Will be using a Metal Tech kit and OEM isolators to rid myself of the air suspension in the rear. Would like to avoid putting aftermarket UCA's on it but if it comes down to it I will have to go for them. Anyone see any issues with pairing up the combo's above? Of course OME recommends using their shocks/struts with their coils but seems like more people pair them with the Bilsteins.

Check for the posts by Bluesky - he has been through this and has it pretty well laid out.

Good luck!

 

[Bluesky 07]

Check for the posts by Bluesky - he has been through this and has it pretty well laid out.

Good luck!

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. Suspension post is linked in my sig & happy to answer any questions the best I can (though my coils are Tacoma fronts/FJ rears).

 

[Leroy_Jenkins]

Wheel and Tire Help

Hello, I have a 2005 Sport 4x4 V8 and I am going to put a Dobinsons lift kit on it; this will yield about 2 inches of lift in the front with a steel bumper (Planning on getting a coastal offroad high clearance front bumper) and 3/4 of an inch in the rear. I am fitting 265/70 R17 BFG KO2s with a little rubbing on the front left fender when I am turning all the way to the left on the stock suspension. What are the biggest tires I can fit without rubbing if I have the high clearance bumper with the lift I am planning on doing?

Also I heard that your wheels get sucked in a little when you lift the vehicle. I am getting some stealth custom stealth 6 rims with -10 inches of offset and I would also like my tires to stick out by an inch or 2. What size wheel spacers would I need to achieve this and would I need different size spacers for the front and rear wheels due to the different amounts of lift in the front and rear? Thanks

 

[JOMOToyota]

Anyone kind enough to look over my plan and make sure I'm not missing anything? I'm driving 400 miles one way to visit a buddy and install some parts. Would really like to make sure I don't get stuck waiting on additional parts.

Installing a Dobinsons kit. 3" front / 2.5" Progressive Rear

I'm also installing SPC UCAs as well as extended swaybar links and mounting 255/75R17 KO2s. Is there anything else that might hinder me on the drive back?

 

[Heffernan]

Quick 5100 related question:

I have all new parts (minus the used springs) for my front FJ/5100 setup. I bought new top hats and want to put everything together before I rip out the old setup currently on the truck.

How can I make sure that I install everything in the right orientation (top mount and shock)? Since I'm putting everything together without the guidance of seeing how the old struts was assembled?

 

[jrm]

This should help..
https://www.google.com/search?q=bilstein+5100+assembly+instructions&oq=bilstein+5100+assembly+instructions&aqs=chrome..69i57.13966j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[Gkhuang]

Would the 884/895e combo with 5100s work for my 2007 V6? Some say it's fine, some say it'll have a negative rake. I've already ordered the parts so I'd love to hear from ya'll so i can maybe change my order! Thanks in advance.

 

[AUSig]

So I installed the front suspension from a 4wd TRD Offroad Tacoma several years ago with 3/8" topout spacers, and I've always had a pretty bad drivers side lean. The ride is good though, and I really have no desire to buy a new suspension. What is the easiest way to resolve this? Could I swap out the drivers side top out spacer with a larger one?

 

[06TFR]

885 w/bilstein 5100 install help

Have a 2006 4runner V6. Installing OME 885 w/Bilstein 5100. Having trouble installing the steering knuckle bolts on the LCA. When i'm jacking up the LCA to align the steering knuckle bolts it completely lifts the 4runner off the jack stand I still have about 3 inches to go before the LCA reaches the steering. I have two jackstands in the front. I tried jackstands on the frame in the rear since I thought the rear suspension was compressing with the tires on the ground. No luck. Any suggestions? Thanks. Feels like I should just get some other springs.

 

[CoachellaRunner]

Looking for some advice on a lift kit for my new 4runner

This is the lift kit I am considering for my 05 limited 4runner. My truck is mostly a daily driver but I live in the desert so it will definitely see some off road too. Any feedback and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!!

Rancho Quicklift Leveling Strut + RS9000XL Adjustable Shocks Set for 2 – Shock Surplus

 

[06TFR]

Have a 2006 4runner V6. Installing OME 885 w/Bilstein 5100. Having trouble installing the steering knuckle bolts on the LCA. When i'm jacking up the LCA to align the steering knuckle bolts it completely lifts the 4runner off the jack stand I still have about 3 inches to go before the LCA reaches the steering. I have two jackstands in the front. I tried jackstands on the frame in the rear since I thought the rear suspension was compressing with the tires on the ground. No luck. Any suggestions? Thanks. Feels like I should just get some other springs.

Replying to myself because I feel like an idiot. I noticed in some videos my struts looked different. Having bought this 4runner last year and it being my first SUV I didn't realize the previous owner(s) installed a 2 inch lift. I thought it was stock. Still had stock shocks/spring. Just the strut mount/2" rubber spacer was after market. After spending $100 for an auto shop to compress my springs...i decompressed them with the no spring compressor method, installed new strut mounts, and the bilstein 5100/ome885 were easily installed. So I wasted $100 and some time but I learned a lesson.

 

[sentinel89]

Check for the posts by Bluesky - he has been through this and has it pretty well laid out.

Good luck!

I'm rethinking my suspension choices again...

I already have the 884/895E combo, but now wondering if I should have gone with the 885/895 combo instead to make sure I can fit 285's on her.

 

[4RunninSkiBum]

Hi all, new to the forum, Does anyone know if Ill have problems fitting 255/75/17 Duratracs on a 05 Limited w/ Bilstein 5100's all around (stock springs) w/ the front set at 1.75 and a 1" cornfed rear spacer? The wheels are 17x8 pro comp 34 series (0 Offset) Thanks!

 

[The-Wood]

Hi all, new to the forum, Does anyone know if Ill have problems fitting 255/75/17 Duratracs on a 05 Limited w/ Bilstein 5100's all around (stock springs) w/ the front set at 1.75 and a 1" cornfed rear spacer? The wheels are 17x8 pro comp 34 series (0 Offset) Thanks!

Should have no issues assuming you are on stock rims. If running aftermarket rims or wheel spacers you might.