4th Gen Suspension Options/FAQ

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So you have bilsteins up all the way and fit 265/65 duratracs?? So could i fit 275/6 duratracs with minor rub if i were to do bilsteins???

No I have the Bilsteins set to 1.75 in front, not 2.5 which is the highest. That is with stock springs.

I don't have Duratracs, I have Falken Rocky Mountain ATS, they are not as agressive.

Depending on your wheel size and offset (you did not mention if you are going with a 17 or 18 inch rim), the 275/65 Duratracs will fit at the 2.5 inch lift setting easily, and probably at the 1.75 setting with a little trimming if you are running 18 inch wheels. Again this will depend on you wheel size, offset and spacer setup.

If you are talking a 17 inch wheel OEM rims with a 275/65/17 tire and spidertrax spacer the answer is yes, they will fit at 1.75 or 2.5 without any issue. It might need very minor trimming/fender liner adjustment and the 1.75 setting.

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Duratracs don't come in a 275/65/17, so it'd have to be the 18s. If you don't have wheel spacers, they should fit easily with the 2.5", will probably need to move the fender liner forward.

 

[jcd]

great write up!

Though I do have a question. I currently have the DS 2.5-1.5 installed. If I don't want to put it to waste (considering upgrading my suspension), what are my best options so that i can keep the ds.

I think I understand that the OME wont work with it(without some major work), as the common spacer is 1/4"-1/2"..

FJ upgrade? coilovers? I think I've seen someone on here with the ds and fj upgrade.
Any thoughts/suggestions would be great. I like the sound of the adjustable coilovers.

Ps. I have 1.25 spidertrax and 265 75 r16 bfg ta ko's

thanks guys
JD

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

The only way to reuse that is to add FJ coils. This is not in the same class as the other options you mentioned. If your goal is to lift the 4runner and retain stock ride quality, the FJ coils will do well. If you are looking for better off road performance, the new shocks/coils will be best. If you choose the right setup, your ride quality will be as good if not better than stock. All comes down to if it will be used off road and your budget. Coilovers are great, but you definitely pay for this. If you're not off roading or adding weight such as bumpers, this money can be much better spent IMO.

The limit is ~3" lift to prevent issues. You can combine spacers with lift coils like OME's, but a large spacer will give you more lift than your 4runner can handle. OME will provide ~2.5", so a lot of people use a spacer to give a full 3" or slightly over.

 

[jcd]

Great thanks.
So I guess I can still expect to see an extra inch (if I'm lucky) of lift over the 2.5" daystar spacer if I go that route?...it would just be good to get it up a bit more. Only doing some moderate off roading..
Was having trouble getting my Sig to show up. Didn't realize it was there..hence the ps in my first post.
JD

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

If you add the FJ coils, it'll offer a good bit of on road comfort, but very little off road performance. If you're happy with current performance, only want to be higher, this would be a nice addition. I'd expect about 1" front, .25"-.5" rear. 3.5" lift is pushing the limits of the stock suspension. Some seem to be fine, others have problems. Main issue with over 3" of lift is getting a good alignment, it's hard to get it back in spec. Over 3" will increase wear on other components such as the CV's. With stock shocks, you also run a risk of overextending them, as they're not made to work with that type of lift.

 

[Chad711]

Can any one give me some feedback on a new suspension geared towards towing? I don't need a lift or anything special. I have 129K miles on my 4th Gen runner and the suspension has been squeaking a little when going over speed bumps, hybrids, etc

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Can any one give me some feedback on a new suspension geared towards towing? I don't need a lift or anything special. I have 129K miles on my 4th Gen runner and the suspension has been squeaking a little when going over speed bumps, hybrids, etc

If you aren't after a lift, it's going to depend on your budget. The best thing you can so for towing is adding rear air bags. Airlifts seem to be most popular, you can get them for under $100 shipped. If your stock suspension is worn, new shocks (5100s or fj shocks) with fj coils would be good. I'd start with the air bags, they'll make the most difference and cost
less.

 

[Huskey]

4th Gen 6" lift with 35x12.5xR20

I do really like the write up but it seems like the 4 gen T4R's are very limited to how much they can be lifted.

Here's a pic of what I have, everything under her is custom with alot of machining, cutting grinding and welding. I had the adjustable airbags (RAS) on the back with the Xreas... so there was a lot of cutting and grinding just clean up the axle. I have Bilstein 5100's and long travel leafs underslung below the axle. For the front, I went with a 6" ProComp Kit - the tacoma was too wide and the Fj was too short for the rear supports. I used the Fj kit but alot of custom fabrication just to get it to fit... still looking for a way to fit my swaybars back in, but she rides real pritty as it is.

Next to come are the front ARB and rear CBI bumpers, skid plates, sliders and so on... eventualy I plan to solid axle the front but that is a long way away still.

 

[momo.75]

I do really like the write up but it seems like the 4 gen T4R's are very limited to how much they can be lifted.

Here's a pic of what I have, everything under her is custom with alot of machining, cutting grinding and welding. I had the adjustable airbags (RAR) on the back with the Xreas... so there was a lot of cutting and grinding just clean up the axle. I have Bilstein 5100's and long travel leafs underslung below the axle. For the front, I went with a 6" ProComp Kit - the tacoma was too wide and the Fj was too short for the rear supports. I used the Fj kit but alot of custom fabrication just to get it to fit... still looking for a way to fit my swaybars back in, but she rides real pritty as it is.

Next to come are the front ARB and rear CBI bumpers, skid plates, sliders and so on... eventualy I plan to solid axle the front but that is a long way away still.

Great looking truck! Post it up over in the "Lift and Tire Central" as well.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/51742-lift-tire-central-pics-post-em-up.html

What wheels and size are those? Same with the tires. Welcome to T4R.ORG!

 

[momo.75]

Sorry it this has been brought up. I am just trying to fin some info and/or pics before i go to the shop to have my tires installed. I wanted to see any pics of a 4th gen with 265/70 18's as apposed to the 265/65 18's. If anybody knows of any members please let me know. Thanks in advance.

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Sorry it this has been brought up. I am just trying to fin some info and/or pics before i go to the shop to have my tires installed. I wanted to see any pics of a 4th gen with 265/70 18's as apposed to the 265/65 18's. If anybody knows of any members please let me know. Thanks in advance.

The only person I'm aware of with that size is yellowssm, he's running a ome/Toytec lift setup though.

 

[momo.75]

The only person I'm aware of with that size is yellowssm, he's running a ome/Toytec lift setup though.

Yeah, i was looking at his. I wanted to go with a 275/65 18 but they only had it in an E rated tire, which i don't want. They are bringing both sets of the 265/65 18's and the 265/70 18's from the warehouse for me to look at so we will see.

**Edit: Either way, i am very excited!

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Yeah, i was looking at his. I wanted to go with a 275/65 18 but they only had it in an E rated tire, which i don't want. They are bringing both sets of the 265/65 18's and the 265/70 18's from the warehouse for me to look at so we will see.

**Edit: Either way, i am very excited!

Yep, can't go wrong with either imo, looks great as is, new tires will only make it better!

 

[03SR5V6]

need a leveling kit, what tire size

I have a few questions although this is a great thread!!, i have an 03 sr5 v6 4runner with no lift, stock tire size, and i just added new 16x8 wheels, i wanted to get a level kit, and fit the largest tire size BFG A/T i possibly can, ive read alot of places that the 30" is what the 1" daystar budget kit lets you fit... didnt see anything on this thread for the 16" rim, any imput?

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

If you look at the original post, add 5 to the center number for your 16" wheels. A 265/65/17 it's the same size as a 265/70/16. Those bfg ats are one of the hardest tires to fit, they tend to rub when other tires of the same size don't. A lot of it will depend on the offset/backspacing of the wheels. If they stock out further than stock, expect it to be more difficult. I would suggest a 265/75/16 if they're available in that size. You'll need to move the fender liner. You'll possibly need to trim the bumper and remove mud flaps.

 

[03SR5V6]

the Backspacing is 4.45 and the offset is 0, i wanted to fit the largest a/t tire that was able to fit with minimal trimming, preferably no trimming to the actual car, i can deal with mud flaps.. is there an easier tire to fit?

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Stock size would fit, that's about it. I don't know for certain, but i believe that those wheels see similar to have spacers, tires stick out further. 265/75/16 will fit with some effort, not a lot. You won't have to completely cut away parts of you ride to make these fit, just a few minor alterations.

 

[03SR5V6]

thanks for the imput ill let you know how it works out!!!

 

[Huskey]

Great looking truck! Post it up over in the "Lift and Tire Central" as well.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/51742-lift-tire-central-pics-post-em-up.html

What wheels and size are those? Same with the tires. Welcome to T4R.ORG!

35x12.5xR20 Nitto Trail Grappler on an Iron Eagle rim