5th Gen Theft
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InspectahDeck
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That blows. Hope they are able to recover it, or are able to get a replacement.
Muzzle of Bees
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I don't know all the different configurations for the trail models, but I can't believe any 4Runner with a keyed ignition would be an easy target? Unless a window was left down? I am not sure if someone could start it easily then either? Keyless ignition? I like keys.
I did leave my sunroof open the other evening.
I did leave my sunroof open the other evening.
Ray Dunakin
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No alarm? No Lo-Jack?
Hope he finds it and the people responsible. Glad you posted a pic.
Here in Milwaukee car thefts are running wild , BUT its not that that's the problem. The people doing this just run up to your car and point a gun in your face. A**HOLES !!!
I live out in the country though but now they come out here and do it too.
Here in Milwaukee car thefts are running wild , BUT its not that that's the problem. The people doing this just run up to your car and point a gun in your face. A**HOLES !!!
I live out in the country though but now they come out here and do it too.
BlackWorksInc
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Depends on how the vehicle is being stolen. There's multiple ways to do it. These days many thieves will "grab" your wireless key code remotely when you go to unlock the vehicle and somehow they can pull the RFID code and duplicate it (how they do that I'm not entirely sure). At that point it's a matter of simply duplicating a physical key to turn the ignition (or bypassing it somehow).
Smart Keys are supposedly different as they will use rolling codes and should theoretically be more difficult to "grab and spoof". My knowledge of "jacking cars" is a bit rough, but that's some of the methodology I have heard done.
In some cases they just dress up like a repo-company and throw them on a flatbed, by the time the morning rolls around it's probably on a container ship being cut up?
Depends on how you steal the vehicle, if you spoof the right codes then the car won't know valid key from spoofed one. Lo Jack can be defeated as well, but it has a better track record.
To the OP, that sucks...
Muzzle of Bees
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Victor_inox
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My 2012 barely reacts on keyfob signal despite new battery twice a year.
Woz1976-MT
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Concealed carry, my friend.
And take some extra classes on CQB tactics... they surprise you, carry concealed and surprise them when the time is right.
Woz1976-MT
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Without knowing a lot of details about this issue, has anyone considered the possibility of the person who reported it stolen having missed a few payments? The repo guys (and banks) are getting very efficient and very fast at their craft. I know of lenders who have gone to dealers, had duplicate keys made, and the repo guy/gal just walks up, unlocks the door, and drives away.
I'm not saying this is what happened, but it could be a possibility.
I'm not saying this is what happened, but it could be a possibility.
headpaneer
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This reminds me of an article our local police agency reposted on their Facebook page some time ago.
Thieves using a $17 device to break into cars with keyless systems
Thieves using a $17 device to break into cars with keyless systems
Brandonium
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So if you lock via inserting the key into the door is this avoided?
Depends on how the vehicle is being stolen. There's multiple ways to do it. These days many thieves will "grab" your wireless key code remotely when you go to unlock the vehicle and somehow they can pull the RFID code and duplicate it (how they do that I'm not entirely sure). At that point it's a matter of simply duplicating a physical key to turn the ignition (or bypassing it somehow).
Smart Keys are supposedly different as they will use rolling codes and should theoretically be more difficult to "grab and spoof". My knowledge of "jacking cars" is a bit rough, but that's some of the methodology I have heard done.
In some cases they just dress up like a repo-company and throw them on a flatbed, by the time the morning rolls around it's probably on a container ship being cut up?
Depends on how you steal the vehicle, if you spoof the right codes then the car won't know valid key from spoofed one. Lo Jack can be defeated as well, but it has a better track record.
To the OP, that sucks...
mwray8909
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I would believe so. Unless it still has to recognize the signal being sent to and from the key when it's inserted.
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flyrv9
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When we bought our 2013 SR5 in December 2013 we were told by the sales guy that the dealership looses 3 to 4 Toyotas a month to theft. I'm thinkin really? They have a big lot with gates that are closed at night. If that's true then paying a couple of security guys to patrol the lot would be a bargin. Doesn't say much for security systems either.
ToyoDriver
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Uhhh, yeah. Depending on what's being stolen (used or new, corolla or land cruiser, etc) that's gotta be at least $30,000/mo at cost.
What idiot dealership doesn't have two security guards (at a cost of $7000/mo max) to prevent that shit? On the other hand, they have insurance and it's probably a cost of doing business.
Idk about anyone here, but I'd rather my entire whip get stolen than all vandalized from a smash and grab.
Blitzkrieg
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There have been a rash of thefts of Ford F-250/F-350's here in Denver over the last couple of months that it's gotten to the point that the police are warning people via the news.
One poor guy up north bought a new F-350 and the same night, very same night, it was stolen from his driveway.
I have had a car stolen and I can tell you it sucks.
My vehicles are garaged but I have no issue in saying if I catch somebody messing with my vehicles or house it's going to end very bad for them. I phucking hate thieves and would have no issue with introducing them to the Louisville Slugger or Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson if need be.
It's the man code. Do not phuck with another mans vehicle or woman. You just don't do that.
One poor guy up north bought a new F-350 and the same night, very same night, it was stolen from his driveway.
I have had a car stolen and I can tell you it sucks.
My vehicles are garaged but I have no issue in saying if I catch somebody messing with my vehicles or house it's going to end very bad for them. I phucking hate thieves and would have no issue with introducing them to the Louisville Slugger or Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson if need be.
It's the man code. Do not phuck with another mans vehicle or woman. You just don't do that.
BlackWorksInc
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Possibly, but that only prevents them from from snagging the Keyless Entry Code, the Immobilizer Code (well part of it) is stored in the actual key's RFID Chip.
The thing is I am not sure how they are getting those codes as that's what you need to start the vehicle. Like I said, my knowledge in this particular area is a bit lacking.
Most of the time the companies only pay for crappy cameras that can't do much. We had a sales guy who would park in front of the roll-up door to our satellite shop when I did used cars and the video play back was took crappy to tell who it was.
Additionally for a long time we had people breaking into my old dealership (walled and gated) and stealing 1~3 rims off of vehicles every now and then. Come into the morning to see a Corolla just sitting on one wheel on the lot, rather sad and funny, dealership started mandatory wheel locks on all alloy wheels and that seemed to curb the issue.
The tech behind the rfid and remote key codes in Toyotas can be circumvented in seconds. Keys can be generated via vin. I'm sure the vin to key cut database is dark net public now.
Sort of how the GSM cell A5/1 cipher stream is easily circumvented now, or WEP.
Note: I would never take something that doesn't belong to me.
Sort of how the GSM cell A5/1 cipher stream is easily circumvented now, or WEP.
Note: I would never take something that doesn't belong to me.
HerT4R
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There was a tow truck company in Houston running a car theft ring, they only just recently got caught and shut down.
i mean who looks twice at a car being towed?
If someone wants your stuff bad enough, they are going to take it no matter what you do. You can deter the lazy criminals, but the diligent ones are going to be tough to fight off...
JWaldz
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Days like these make me thankful I have a 2 car garage...Granted, doesn't stop someone from taking mine or the wife's 4runner while we're at work but it's a lot less likely (knock on wood).
Sorry to see this, you typically hear of older vehicles getting stolen but not something so new. Makes me wonder, how they did it.
Someone found a spare key or something maybe?
Sorry to see this, you typically hear of older vehicles getting stolen but not something so new. Makes me wonder, how they did it.
Someone found a spare key or something maybe?
