Hah. I like you. Never assume someone knows the obvious.
But yes...I do know the lower radiator hose is the return hose and should be cooler...but not even warm?
-Mike
5vzfe hot at idle only, oddities
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Hah. I like you. Never assume someone knows the obvious.
But yes...I do know the lower radiator hose is the return hose and should be cooler...but not even warm?
-Mike
Thanks. I kept the old thermostat.
I ran the old girl for a couple of hours in traffic today and she didn't overheat. I can put my hand on the top of the radiator. It's hot but not crazy hot. So I guess it's working.
-Mike
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In 50 degree weather I had to block 3/4 of my rad just to get the engine temp above 191 to test a PID I created for my ScanGauge. And was driving at 50mph.
If your rad is good I see no reason it’s not capable of reaching ambient temps on the return hose. I normally run 184-188.
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toyotaspeed90
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I'll post more when I have a few more minutes later, but I'm less than happy with Toyota (OEM) in getting a new radiator.
Had I known I wouldn't have bought OEM....
Had I known I wouldn't have bought OEM....
toyotaspeed90
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Alright, so... 1997 3.4, 4x4, manual.
I call Toyota and ask for price and availability. They give me a price and tell me Tuesday (last Friday). Price was lower than the Napa price for a Denso and only a few more dollars than the Napa brand.
I verify...
"This is for a manual, right? I don't want the trans cooler." They verify they loaded as a manual and check the diagram - no cooler.
Ok, great. "Oh, and does it come with a cap? If not, do you have them? It's just a small 13psi cap"
They verify - "yes. it comes with the cap, we have those as well".
So I order it.
Get it home - it had the AT trans cooler and NO cap.
I call. They scramble, then tell me that's the only radiator. I tell them it's disappointing.
I mention there's no cap. "Are you sure? It shows the cap comes with".
I verify, tell them the part number. They ask to put me on hold.
I look up on Toyo DIY - different part number on the radiator, but it only crosses to the one I have- damn.
They come back about 5 minutes later and say they had to dig through multiple service bulletins but that the cap doesn't come with.
So in the end I pay Toyota prices for, what I would consider to be the wrong radiator, and it's missing pieces from what I was quoted. They "gave me a deal" and knocked $10 off the cap price.
I also decided to replace the heater lines under the hood. When I did the TB I decided they were weeping but ok and looked to be a PITA so didnt fo them at that time. They didn't make me wrong. I used Napa hoses since Toyota pricing wawas way overkill.
Photos of heater lines before/after, a way to the lower bolts without removing anything, and the part number/radiator.
Also photo of the very used RADKITPLUSA....
I call Toyota and ask for price and availability. They give me a price and tell me Tuesday (last Friday). Price was lower than the Napa price for a Denso and only a few more dollars than the Napa brand.
I verify...
"This is for a manual, right? I don't want the trans cooler." They verify they loaded as a manual and check the diagram - no cooler.
Ok, great. "Oh, and does it come with a cap? If not, do you have them? It's just a small 13psi cap"
They verify - "yes. it comes with the cap, we have those as well".
So I order it.
Get it home - it had the AT trans cooler and NO cap.
I call. They scramble, then tell me that's the only radiator. I tell them it's disappointing.
I mention there's no cap. "Are you sure? It shows the cap comes with".
I verify, tell them the part number. They ask to put me on hold.
I look up on Toyo DIY - different part number on the radiator, but it only crosses to the one I have- damn.
They come back about 5 minutes later and say they had to dig through multiple service bulletins but that the cap doesn't come with.
So in the end I pay Toyota prices for, what I would consider to be the wrong radiator, and it's missing pieces from what I was quoted. They "gave me a deal" and knocked $10 off the cap price.
I also decided to replace the heater lines under the hood. When I did the TB I decided they were weeping but ok and looked to be a PITA so didnt fo them at that time. They didn't make me wrong. I used Napa hoses since Toyota pricing wawas way overkill.
Photos of heater lines before/after, a way to the lower bolts without removing anything, and the part number/radiator.
Also photo of the very used RADKITPLUSA....
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brillo_76
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Bad clamps mostly have leaks. I believe the bad cap is why they wont pull from the reserve tank.
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brillo_76
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I have never seen an OEM radiator come with a cap. Also you are 100% correct the manuals dont have a trans cooler. You must have some really interesting characters in your local dealer parts department. Maybe it was their first day. :/
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toyotaspeed90
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Nope, the usuals.
What I meant was that the manual version of the radiator without the cooler is no longer available- the part that is in their schematics now interchanges to the new number that is for the automatics with the cooler.
Check Toyo DIY if you don't believe me...
Apparently when Toyota switched OEM radiators (and part numbers) they now use the same one for manual and automatic. Radiator & Components for 2000 Toyota 4Runner | Toyota Parts
phattyduck
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Just leave the shipping caps on the trans cooler connections and move on. It won't hurt anything being there. Or use it as a power steering cooler?
-Charlie
-Charlie
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phattyduck
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You could be the only 'pink milkshake' member on here with power steering and coolant mix.
-Charlie
