**accident photos**totaled or not?**

[20034RunnerV84x2]

Hopefully they don't total it out, I had a 98 and someone pulled out in front of me and I was doing 65 MPH and slammed into them, it was totaled. I miss that truck so much, only has 136,000 miles. Here's a pic of it, I don't have any before pics It my frame wasn't bent it would have been fixed. I miss it, it was in immaculate condition. Just 2-3 stains on the interior.

 

[BrianSD_42]

RC4R had a similar but far less severe accident over the summer and his was totaled

Hmmm, I think RC4Rs wreck was much worse. For one thing his wheel was almost completely torn off because he drove into a 3 ft brick mailbox and snapped the front axel. His front end was barely damaged but the front suspension I am sure was more messed up than yours.

That said, yes it is probably totalled.

 

[Anonymous4Runner]

Thanks to all who have replied thus far;



To all that was wondering if insurance had called me back today, they spoke to my father who is the primary holder of the current policy and informed him that he would be updated with an estimate to repair the truck but I told my father that I asked around (aka here on the forums) and chances are it is totaled. He said he doesn't know what to say but he said as soon as he hears back from insurance seeing how much it is to repair the truck, we will go from there. I think it is a fair bet that I will be shoppin' around for a new whip as my Dad works overseas (he just had a month-long vacation here in the States before leaving overseas few days ago and he won't be back 'til late April/March). I wonder if I can purchase a whip through the dealership if I fax my dad the paperwork. I can't stand the thought of waiting until next year for my dad to return so we can get a whip together.


@20034Runner ; That's a bummer dude. Mine had 182k (can't remember exactly) before I got involved in an accident. I miss my truck terribly, it sucks entering your garage not seeing your whip parked inside. It is an odd feeling that one should never ever have to endure in their lifetime.

@Josh - Damn. Hopefully that won't turn out to be the case. It would be 'coo if I could get it fixed, but I doubt my dad is willing to drop stacks to have it repaired if repairs outweigh the retail cost of the vehicle. I'll let him know about buying it back and reselling it, 'tho. I still need to take out my sound system in there too...I have 2 subwoofers sitting in the back right now. I don't think the cords that runs to the hood will be workable anymore (not even sure if the dealership would allow me to uninstall that. I may just have to take the subwoofers that is enclosed in a wooden box and my amp leaving cables in there. This is a sad thought for me.


@Nilson - If my truck is indeed totaled....crap, I'm fixin' to scoop a 4Runner 2011, the latest model out there right now. I mean, I really despise the 4th gen model because of its ugly body design (no offense to 4th gen owners out there, but it is just ugly.) However, the latest model of the 4Runner is beastly and sexy. I did have talks with my dad though about scoopin' a BMW (325i, 335i, a M3, and a potential 5 series) in the past but I'm not going to sound greedy when we shop around for whips if that is going to be the case. I'll take anything I can get, but it would be 'coo if I got a 4Runner 2011 or a BMW of any series.



@Singtoe - So you're saying insurance owns my truck now, no matter what? What if I had kept it inside my truck and didn't have it towed to the dealership for repairs? Could I still have avoided the insurance company and paid for damaged parts myself without having them knowing about my intents to repair?

Thanks to all, I will find out more tomorrow so stay tuned.

 

[PitbullRescuer]

No offense, you sound young. But if your father values having you as a son (and I'm sure he does) he would be wise not to replace this with any BMW. If this is what happened with a 4Runner and a mailbox, the consequences would be far worse with a BMW and some other stationary obstacle.

Whatever you replace it with, be careful.

 

[josh.bunch]

Hmmm, I think RC4Rs wreck was much worse. For one thing his wheel was almost completely torn off because he drove into a 3 ft brick mailbox and snapped the front axel. His front end was barely damaged but the front suspension I am sure was more messed up than yours.

That said, yes it is probably totalled.

I could be wrong but I don't remembering him saying anything to me about snapping the front axel. I was under the impression it was bearings, ball joints, control arms, CV joint, that type stuff. Guess it doesn't really matter.

Anyway, anticipating hearing what your insurance company says tomorrow.

 

[SliderNH]

No offense, you sound young. But if your father values having you as a son (and I'm sure he does) he would be wise not to replace this with any BMW. If this is what happened with a 4Runner and a mailbox, the consequences would be far worse with a BMW and some other stationary obstacle.

Whatever you replace it with, be careful.

Now I know I'm not the only one who was thinking it. Thanks for saying it.


"anonymous4runner": If you were my kid you'd be paying for all that out of your own pocket. You would be buying yourself your own car to smash up next time, and taking out your own insurance policy. Its your responsibility. Think about how much your dad is paying just to have you on his insurance in the first place. Young male under 25. Expensive. Honestly you sound like you're entitled to everything you have, whether you earned it or not. Not cool. So anyway, now this, his policy is going way up because of you. Talking about BMW's and and brand new $30,000 to $38,000 cars.... Get your head on straight man. You're not going to be handed freebies through out your whole life, get used to being a man and take charge. The first step is admitting that you f-ed up, so kudos. Next, take some action and some responsibility for yourself. It'll give you some pride and self-worth that no car or material object will give you. Good luck tracking straight.

 

[20034RunnerV84x2]

It does suck, I was ready to beat the Sh!t out of the guy who pulled out in front of me, but he was a nice guy and asked if everyone was ok (Me & my GF) and we were, thank God I was in a Runner

 

[BrianSD_42]

Honestly you sound like you're entitled to everything you have, whether you earned it or not. Not cool.

x2


LOL - you are not the 99%.

 

[rjaudi]

Now I know I'm not the only one who was thinking it. Thanks for saying it.


"anonymous4runner": If you were my kid you'd be paying for all that out of your own pocket. You would be buying yourself your own car to smash up next time, and taking out your own insurance policy. Its your responsibility. Think about how much your dad is paying just to have you on his insurance in the first place. Young male under 25. Expensive. Honestly you sound like you're entitled to everything you have, whether you earned it or not. Not cool. So anyway, now this, his policy is going way up because of you. Talking about BMW's and and brand new $30,000 to $38,000 cars.... Get your head on straight man. You're not going to be handed freebies through out your whole life, get used to being a man and take charge. The first step is admitting that you f-ed up, so kudos. Next, take some action and some responsibility for yourself. It'll give you some pride and self-worth that no car or material object will give you. Good luck tracking straight.

This just reminded me of when my older brother wrecked my fathers 91 4runner back around 1993. He found him a nice POS to drive after that.

 

[Singtoe]

@Singtoe - So you're saying insurance owns my truck now, no matter what? What if I had kept it inside my truck and didn't have it towed to the dealership for repairs? Could I still have avoided the insurance company and paid for damaged parts myself without having them knowing about my intents to repair?

If they have started then pretty much yes. You will have an option to buy the 4runner back from them.

If you never called the ins company, you could have fixed it yourself (or had some one do it for you). But hind sight is 50/50.

 

[madbomber08]

Here's mine for reference.
The total cost of the repair only was around $4000 and that is a very good deal.
There's no doubt it would have been totaled had I turned it into insurance.

And fixed

The frame WAS NOT BENT. I concluded this by measuring from each ball joint to different points on the frame. The body shop then confirmed it wasn't bent as well by getting it up on stands and checking out the frame. I don't know if they would have fixed it if the frame was bent or not.

 

[Yoterman87]

even if it is totaled they usually give you the offer of buying it back. So you could use the insurence money to buy it back and then you would still probably have enough money to get it road worthy again. it will have a salvage title but you will still have your runner. and if you plan on keeping it for 15-20 years who cares what the title says.

 

[Anonymous4Runner]

Appreciate the recent comments. Time to start addressing concerns/questions.



@Yoterman - Thanks, I'll check it out. I still haven't gotten an estimate, yet.

@Madbomber - Very impressive. However, I do not possesses skills in restoring cars, let alone repairing cars. I am fairly certain it would be the same price to repair if I took it to my local mechanic for major repairs (I go to him for regularly inspections & oil change pretty much). Plus, I'm away at college so I doubt I'd have time to work on the truck with somebody during the year let alone the summer.

@Singtoe - Thanks for clearing that up!

@Rjaudi - Bummer, dude. That is his fault, 'tho. It was a '91 4Runner that was solid until your sibling wrecked it two years later. He's had it only for two years, dude. I would get him a POS, 'tho.

@Brian - I don't think my family's part of the 1%, 'tho. I doubt my family's wealth matches up to 1%, 'LOL'.

@Slider - Obviously you do not care about my reaction but if I had said that to someone, they would have probably reacted pretty bad and I'd lol @ them, too. However, I totally respect your opinion and appreciate your input. Yes, I am under 25 years old, and yes I am certain it is expensive for me to be on his policy. However, I must stop you there and let you know that you are totally unaware of my father's current insurance policies for everything. What if my insurance was really cheap because of the spotless records from all family members? What if my insurance was really expensive because of spotty records from all family members? What if my insurance was average with decent records from all family members? As for helping out, the only time I've ever gotten to work was during high school for two years. You do not understand my father, he is not a typical Dad who forces their kids out of the house at age 18, or make them work to support themselves after turning 18, or force them to work to pay you rent after turning 18, or force their kids to work to pay for insurance, misc. bills i.e. phone, internet, etc. The only reason why I was able to work for two years is because I've maintained a high GPA for the 1st two years of HS and I was already set to get into a good college. Because of that, my dad decided to let me work until I wanted to quit (which I did, after I graduated in August before I moved away for college btw!), however he told me if my grades started to get bad because of me working almost full time after school every day except on Sundays then he would force me to quit early or request for a lot less hours. He doesn't want me to work. He wants me to enjoy college, and I've repeatedly offered my assistance to help out with the bills if needed but he refused. Besides, he would be very upset if I were to get a part time job, even on weekends. He truly wants me to focus in school and enjoy college. Oh and staying out of trouble, too. So don't think I'm spoiled just because I am very fortunate to have a Dad that takes care of things if needed. I've had enough freebies during my childhood, believe me. I've manned up a long time ago, and I'm still manning up. It's not like I'm going to mooch off him for the rest of my life. I've already set funds aside for my apartment when I graduate college because I told him I wanted to begin life on my own after college. Sorry for this long paragraph, I was just really into typing up a response to your comment. I appreciate your comments, though. You had good intents to set me straight and make me realize how life can be very awesome and educational when you start taking responsibility for things in life

@Josh - I'm still waiting to hear back, 'tho. I'm startin' to get worried, you dig me? I'm starting to anticipate the worst scenario instead a positive one now...time for me to turn on some Bob Marley.

@Pitbull - I can see where you are coming from. When I first broke the news to him, I told him that I was very apologetic for the way the accident went down and that I understood if he didn't want to get me a nice car this time now that the accident already had taken place. However, like I said above; I am so fortunate for my Dad. He told me that he was going to keep his word and help me shop around for one regardless of what happened. But I think I"m sticking to a SUV, 'tho. Even if I wanted a 3 series BMW, I still want to have a vehicle to off road and my Dad's alternative 4Runner (a '95) is not going to cut it so most likely I am sticking with a SUV for its durability. However, a BMW of any series, a 4Runner (newer model), or any other brands like an Audi are still possible choices. We're just waiting to hear back from the company so we can see what we can do from there. Again, sorry for typing up another paragraph. You guys probably think I'm dramatic already, now. If so, I apologize but that's not me. I just have a tendency to defend myself on forums if I'm in the spot light (I used to be a gamer).


Oh, and whoa....->>>>>>:girl: awesome, it even points at the tits. Good placement. Sorry, had to make a note of that

 

[the great him]

your spoiled and you dont even know/realize it. and if that is the way your father is then he needs a reality check, if you have only worked part time for 2 years of your life you have not manned up, and you have no sense of reality. that is all, carry on...

 

[PitbullRescuer]

What ever you do, just be careful. I have a 540i/6 also and it's a rocket. My 528 was even quick. The newer cars are real quick I hear even with the I6 motors. When you're going fast, things go wrong faster.

 

[SliderNH]

You better be getting a 4.0 if you have only had to work part time for 2 years of your life. Good god. I hate to break the bad news to you, but life is gonna be a lot more busy than full-time school plus a part time job. You're dad has the right approach to give you the best opportunity for your to succeed. However, it is your responsibility to take-on more than you can handle. How do you know your limits of what you're capable of if you don't test it?

And your defense is baseless man. Speaking from experience, when I was 17 I wrecked my dad's 97 4runner. I fell asleep when I was driving to work because I had been pushing myself as hard as I could. I was on his insurance. And instead of making his insurance pay for it, I got the truck towed out of the ditch and never filed it. I sold it for $800 bucks bit the bullet and paid my dad $4,500 for it. After that the best I could afford was a POS 93 subaru legacy wagon with 173k mi and a rebuilt front end with no airbags that I bought for $600 off some chinese dude who owned a dry cleaner's. Actually was probably the most fun car I've had. Anyway, my point is the last thing your dad needs to deal with is this whole insurance ordeal or BUY A NEW CAR FOR YOU when its your fault. I'm not saying you have to do what I did, but its an example of how to respect your father.

 

[BrianSD_42]

@Anonymous

A few things

1) Be grateful for this medium of communication. Some of the members reacted negatively to the things you have said. They do not know you nor you them. One of the great things about the internet and forums in particular is that people recieve BLUNT advice without fear of recourse. You have been told bluntly how some people percieve you based on your story and talk about the future. Use this as an opportunity because I am SURE there ARE other people in your personal circle, including friends, relatives, teachers, aquantinces who have evaluated you the same way as these members but you just don't know it.

2) Your dad does not want you to work while going to college. That is fairly common in for middle class families. The reason you sound spoiled is because you are NOT AWARE of how lucky you are to come from a well-off family.

3) You fail to acknowledge that despite your family's driving history, you have caused the insurance policy to go up in the long run. That was Slider's point.

4) I can relate to your lack of perspective for how the "rest" of America grew up. I grew in a middle class family and my parents also wanted me to go off to college without working. Instead I joined the military and served because I knew I was not ready to "be somebody" via college. Through joining and serving 6 years I met a lot of different people and really really realized how lucky I was to have grown up in a non-divorced, middle class home. I am thankful and have worked my way through life on my own since 18. I paid for my truck while serving.

5) You do not realize how privileged you have had it so I will explain why you are "privileged" .

I will assume these apply to you: (as they did me)

* grew up without ever knowing hunger or using food stamps
* grew up in a stable household without abuse of drug use
* grew up in a safe neighborhood without serious crime or gangs
* if you needed tutoring your parents would pay for it
* if you needed medical attention your parents would provide
* if you had ever gotten into trouble with the law, your parents could afford a decent attorney (this is a huge, kids from families that don't have the $ go to jail or JV)
* if you wanted to go to college your parents would provide, with most expenses paid

... ect ... ect...


If you realized how lucky you are then you would be careful about spouting off about wanting a new BMW ect because you are wrong, it does sound spoiled. A LOT of people are judging you even if most don't come out and confront you like my fellow T4R members.


On all other aspects you should like a nice guy.

 

[pauls4runner]

I bought my 4runner with a salvage title. it was in a front end collision. the only repairs to get it safely driveable was a new front bumper and new left headlight. it doesnt take much for an insurance company to total a vehicle

 

[jham]

Anonymous4runner, I'm gonna be honest, and hopefully you'll find something good in this.

I'm only 24, so hear me as someone (closer) to your age. Long story short, my parents chose to raise me by making me purchase my own vehicles, from the time I could drive. From a $2k Cherokee back in 03 to the 01 4runner I bought 3 weeks ago and all the Tacoma's and Land Rover's in between, I've made stupid decisions but all have been from my pocket. And, I'm better for it.

My deep and honest suggestion to you, coming from someone (closer) to your age. DO NOT let your dad bail you out of this. Grow up. Get a job. You said: "I'd rather booze it up with bros and hos" than fix your car. That's unbelievable. The guys on this forum are way too nice to you. That's immaturity. That's worse than calling your ride a whip.

You live in VA. So do I. I'll gladly help you with finding a car, fixing yours, or whatever I can. But for the love of everything good in this world, grow up and stop looking to daddy to bail you out. A car bought with your own blood, sweat and tears, will mean more to you than any "first car you ever drove."

 

[jham]

@Anonymous

A few things

1) Be grateful for this medium of communication. Some of the members reacted negatively to the things you have said. They do not know you nor you them. One of the great things about the internet and forums in particular is that people recieve BLUNT advice without fear of recourse. You have been told bluntly how some people percieve you based on your story and talk about the future. Use this as an opportunity because I am SURE there ARE other people in your personal circle, including friends, relatives, teachers, aquantinces who have evaluated you the same way as these members but you just don't know it.

2) Your dad does not want you to work while going to college. That is fairly common in for middle class families. The reason you sound spoiled is because you are NOT AWARE of how lucky you are to come from a well-off family.

3) You fail to acknowledge that despite your family's driving history, you have caused the insurance policy to go up in the long run. That was Slider's point.

4) I can relate to your lack of perspective for how the "rest" of America grew up. I grew in a middle class family and my parents also wanted me to go off to college without working. Instead I joined the military and served because I knew I was not ready to "be somebody" via college. Through joining and serving 6 years I met a lot of different people and really really realized how lucky I was to have grown up in a non-divorced, middle class home. I am thankful and have worked my way through life on my own since 18. I paid for my truck while serving.

5) You do not realize how privileged you have had it so I will explain why you are "privileged" .

I will assume these apply to you: (as they did me)

* grew up without ever knowing hunger or using food stamps
* grew up in a stable household without abuse of drug use
* grew up in a safe neighborhood without serious crime or gangs
* if you needed tutoring your parents would pay for it
* if you needed medical attention your parents would provide
* if you had ever gotten into trouble with the law, your parents could afford a decent attorney (this is a huge, kids from families that don't have the $ go to jail or JV)
* if you wanted to go to college your parents would provide, with most expenses paid

... ect ... ect...


If you realized how lucky you are then you would be careful about spouting off about wanting a new BMW ect because you are wrong, it does sound spoiled. A LOT of people are judging you even if most don't come out and confront you like my fellow T4R members.

Not that it matters, but I also agree fully with Brian. My previous post was half reaction because you do come across as spoiled, and it was from my own experience. And it was how I personally would fix the problem with my own child. But this is equally as good.

There's nothing wrong with being blessed, and having parents who pay for things. Or everything. It's your attitude about those blessings that determines whether you are spoiled or blessed. Right now, I think you're spoiled. Heed Brian's advice, and you'll be blessed.