AGM Battery recommendations

[Kuduhunter]

Have researched the web and several links on this page but want some recent recommendations on which AGM battery is the best for running winch and lights on 2017 ORP. No plans to put in a refrigerator.

Northstar vs Odyssey vs Duracell. in Group 24M or Group 34M size????

Thanks for any input

 

[fourwd1]

Battery thread here

 

[rigtec]

Have researched the web and several links on this page but want some recent recommendations on which AGM battery is the best for running winch and lights on 2017 ORP. No plans to put in a refrigerator.

Northstar vs Odyssey vs Duracell. in Group 24M or Group 34M size????

Thanks for any input

Hi Kuduhunter,

There are two that I've used, "see below":

...and...

I'm using the "Odyssey Extreme", and my wife's Camery has the "Exide Edge"! Both (IMHO) are just as capable! Here's a description of the Odyessy Extreme in my 4Runner: https://www.toyota-4runner.org/2012950-post1.html Best to you,

rig

 

[jhguth]

X2 at batteries plus, made by northstar

 

[Peak Runner]

Hi Kuduhunter,



There are two that I've used, "see below":

...and...

I'm using the "Odyssey Extreme", and my wife's Camery has the "Exide Edge"! Both (IMHO) are just as capable! Here's a description of the Odyessy Extreme in my 4Runner: https://www.toyota-4runner.org/2012950-post1.html Best to you,



rig

I was leaning toward the odyssey extreme due to the lower weight than the Northstar and the good reviews


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[ScoMey]

X2 at batteries plus, made by northstar

+1... and watch for their online coupons, you can save a ton. Very happy with mine 5 months in.

 

[MAST4R]

I thought the consensus here was that the 4R does not charge AGM properly and thus this kind of battery needs extra care?

 

[Krej]

I have dual Odyssey group 25s (genesis system) and a buddy has a single Northstar in a JK (don’t know the size). Both are holding up, but there are several things to keep in mind:

1. AGMs have a different charge profile. They require ~14.7 volts to fully charge. The 4Runners alternator only supplies about 13.5 volts which will only charge the AGM to about 85% depending on ambient temperature.

2. To keep the battery healthy it will need to be charged to 100% using a charger with the correct profile about 1-2 times a month. I chose to permanently install a Victron solar controller (which has an AGM profile) inside the engine bay and then I connect it to a 12 volt power supply, basically mimicking a 100w solar panel. This leaves me the option to add solar down the road if needed for roughly the same price as a stand-alone charger.

 

[LRT]

I thought the consensus here was that the 4R does not charge AGM properly and thus this kind of battery needs extra care?

Others and myself have used a voltage booster and have not had any issues

Triple State Voltage Booster - 5th Gen 4Runner — ArcLightLEDs

 

[Whizz]

I'm running a 2 battery setup using Northstar AGM batteries group 34. Very happy with them so far. I also added a diode booster fuse which delivers a charging voltage around 14.5 V. Once in a while I'll just hook up my battery charger which has an AGM charge algorithm and give them a charge but to be honest I don't need to do that but I have the charger so why not.

 

[matoolie]

X2 at batteries plus, made by northstar

+1... and watch for their online coupons, you can save a ton. Very happy with mine 5 months in.

+2. Has 6 year warranty. Just installed an auxiliary Group 34 to replace about 8 year old Diehard Premium AGM. X2 also seems to be popular over at expedition portal forum. I also have the voltage booster installed on my truck for slightly higher charge voltage. And have CTEC charger I can hook up periodically if I want.

 

[Bumbo]

I have dual Odyssey group 25s (genesis system) and a buddy has a single Northstar in a JK (don’t know the size). Both are holding up, but there are several things to keep in mind:

1. AGMs have a different charge profile. They require ~14.7 volts to fully charge. The 4Runners alternator only supplies about 13.5 volts which will only charge the AGM to about 85% depending on ambient temperature.

2. To keep the battery healthy it will need to be charged to 100% using a charger with the correct profile about 1-2 times a month. I chose to permanently install a Victron solar controller (which has an AGM profile) inside the engine bay and then I connect it to a 12 volt power supply, basically mimicking a 100w solar panel. This leaves me the option to add solar down the road if needed for roughly the same price as a stand-alone charger.

Isn’t the Victron MPPT a buck controller… I have a couple and they won’t boost a DC-DC voltage.

As long as you are feeding it greater than the battery voltage this should work as this would be typical to what a solar panel would be doing.

 

[97BlackAckCL]

I've used Optimas for 15 years or so, I recently made the switch to Odyssey and I'm in love. I'm actually looking at getting the same Odyssey that I have in my 4Runner for my Acura, they're awesome quality batteries.

 

[jhguth]

I thought the consensus here was that the 4R does not charge AGM properly and thus this kind of battery needs extra care?

Just needs higher voltage, and you can stick with stock size if you're not running a fridge or anything

 

[jdm-v35]

I run the odyssey 34r size and so far it has been great. I do plan to add a 2nd later when I get back to doing more camping later in the year or early next year.

I do not have a fridge but do run my roof rack lights off it when camping and power my phone charger, lights and a small fan in my RTT.

 

[03_4x4Runner]

I thought the consensus here was that the 4R does not charge AGM properly and thus this kind of battery needs extra care?

You do not have to do anything to run an Odyssey. Just put it in and drive it. I talked to Odyssey about this concern on the forum and posted this info in another thread. Odyssey said there has never been a problem with 4runners and the lower voltage would not be a warranty issue. I am going on 2 years on my Odyssey with no modifications and it works great.

 

[MAST4R]

You do not have to do anything to run an Odyssey. Just put it in and drive it. I talked to Odyssey about this concern on the forum and posted this info in another thread. Odyssey said there has never been a problem with 4runners and the lower voltage would not be a warranty issue. I am going on 2 years on my Odyssey with no modifications and it works great.

Really? Well, that's great to hear, especially since you are right here in AZ. What size is yours?

How long did your stock battery last? I doubt I can trust mine more than 2 years.

On a different note, have you driven Red Mountain/Backaway to the Desert Bar? I know it has got a lot harder than it used to be, but is it really beautiful?

 

[Akkording]

X2 at batteries plus, made by northstar

This if in a 24F if you don't need a fridge. It's light and simple. Maybe an ArcLightLeds voltage booster or a GM diode to extend the life to get close to a 14v charge. I always carry a portable usb jump starter for emergency easily had on eBay for 60ish bucks

 

[03_4x4Runner]

Really? Well, that's great to hear, especially since you are right here in AZ. What size is yours?

How long did your stock battery last? I doubt I can trust mine more than 2 years.

On a different note, have you driven Red Mountain/Backaway to the Desert Bar? I know it has got a lot harder than it used to be, but is it really beautiful?

I took my still working stock battery out at 4 years age. My neighbor put in in his Sienna minivan and ran it another year when it failed. I am not a good comparison for battery life in AZ because my 4runner is in an airconditioned garage 95% of the time. My Odyssey is a 34r.

I have been to the desert bar 5 or 6 times. I am not sure what trail exactly you are asking about but I know 3 ways to get there. The main road is a very easy graded trail. The second way is about 1/2 way down the main trail you cut off to a medium difficulty trail that goes by some mines and goes to the bar. The 3rd way is more challenging. I did it 10 or 12 years ago in a lifted jeep Wrangler. If you can get up the big hill at the start near highway 95 you should be alright but it gets very slow with 7-9" rocks near one of the mines for a good distance. You would want a lift and some descent tires. Trails change a lot here over the years so it may be different now. As far a beauty it is ok but not the best in my opinion.

 

[rigtec]

I was leaning toward the odyssey extreme due to the lower weight than the Northstar and the good reviews


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Hi Peak Runner,

You can't go wrong with the "Odyssey EXTREME!" It fits in the factory battery tray, no hassling with changing the cables, and it's reviews are ***** 5 star rated! 'Happy Trails,

~rig~ cheers