air bags/load levelers,where to find?

drnick

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2011 4Runner; need air bags or load levelers(shocks with springs)..do they make them for 5th gen 4 runner?? THX
 
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2011 4Runner; need air bags or load levelers(shocks with springs)..do they make them for 5th gen 4 runner?? THX

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Antman, did you get an alignment after installing these? I just finally ordered them, cheaper than a WDH and will work out a bit better. I am thinking I may be able to cure the stupid lean with them running the bags separate and 5psi in one while the other is dry.
 
No alignment needed! Just need to remove the shock, and unbolt the panhard bar to help articulate the suspension a little more. Springs will come right out. If you run independent airlines you will definitely get rid of the lean.
 
I got the same ones after talking with Antman...love 'em! Ran two separate lines, which come out side by side under the rear bumper. Got a little air compressor that stores nicely in that little side compartment in the back of the runner. No lean...no sag when hauling "stuff".
 
I have had the Firestone airbags on my 4th gen for a while now and they have been great. They came with the two line set up and have not leaked down once.
 
I went to the site you provided for the Air Lift 1000. The site is not updated for the 2012 4Runner. I assume it’s the same as the 2010-2011 but wanted to make sure before I purchase these.
 
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Antman can confirm but this is what I came up with in cross reference. 60809 Airlift 1000.
 
No alignment needed! Just need to remove the shock, and unbolt the panhard bar to help articulate the suspension a little more. Springs will come right out. If you run independent airlines you will definitely get rid of the lean.
Got them in today, here are my measurements stock:
LF - 38"
RF - 38.5"
LR - 38.5"
RR - 39"

With 20psi in LR and 10psi in RR
LF - 38.4"
RF - 38.6"
LR - 38.7"
RR - 39"

Lean is not completely gone from the rear, but next to unnoticeable until measuring in the front. I tried various different pressures and the RR never moved from 39", kind of odd. Pulled the camper 40 miles and it was noticeably better, sat perfectly level with 25psi in each bag. This lean is kind of ridiculous for a 38k vehicle, and I found that my RR shock is about done. Guess I will be taking it to Toyota for a new OEM shock as the lift has only been on 500 miles, no way it killed it.
 
Inserting the Bags

What is the best technique for installing the air bags inside the springs? When I tried this before it was very difficult to get them in. Did you find a trick?
 
Pull the springs completely and set them on the floor. Then push the bags right in. The springs practically fall out once you remove the shocks anyway. Just pay attention to the direction the spring was installed, and be sure to seat it correctly. If it's a little crooked in the perch, you can slip it into place with a small prybar. Easy!
 
Donno if you seen this but this might help. Looks pretty straight forward in the video.

Amazon.com : Learn More About the Air Lift 1000 Air Spring Kit

Couple things I'd like to point out in that video..

That dude is working, standing up, on a lift. If you lay on your back and DO NOT remove the springs...it will a long, difficult, pain the a$$ job. It's not worth it to not pull the spring out (as the instructions recommend)

He also uses a tire iron on that bag...yea..they seem pretty stout, but that would not be the tool of choice. I don't remember what exactly I used, but I would never use it again (I think a rounded pc. of wood).


"IF" I followed instructions (instructions?...WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' INSTRUCTIONS) it would have been a couple of hours...tops.

I wrestled those GD bags all morning before I finally got a good fit.....and although strength is not the issue...shoving my fat a$$ under the back end of that truck for 4 hours was...

Antman bringeth good advice...He that follow,s will forever enjoy the ride of air...
 
I sprayed a small amount of WD 40 on the bags to help slip them in, I also hooked the line up to the bag and suctioned some of the air out of the bag and they slipped right in with no problem.
 
I suctioned air out of the bag and pushed on the top of the bag while my FIL pushed the bottom of the bag. Didn't use anything to lubricate the bag as it would have made it much more difficult to push it IMO. These only took around an hour to install with two people including running the airline (which I did through the frame rails to keep it protected).
 

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