America this week, what the hell?

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I owned retail (perdominately cash and 14 days, 7 days a week, 90% male clients) business for 17 years. We were open till the wee hours.....you can fill in the rest.

Any time you are going to be in southern Ontario, pm me here and we can drink some real beers.

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I'd prefer if you fill in the rest as my imagination is pretty good and can run wild.

I'd prefer reality.

So please elaborate on your experiences. I love AAR's.

Ah man, I've got to bring the beer from Colorado? If it's "real" beer we are to drink that is...
 
I think we should all fill in the blanks for ourselves.

I was working at a pool hall in north Seattle where there is a Asian gang population. 2 rival factions decided to get in to it with about 50 innocent people in the hall. I jumped into get them outside before it escalated out of control. The next night both sides had someone drop by and let me know how close I was to getting "hurt". And next time just let everybody else fend for themselves and gtfo.

I was working on a house that is section 8 and had recently had a house fire because they were running a brothel out of it. 2 black individuals approached the house and asked us wtf we were doing there. We responded that we are repairing the house and it was not safe for them to go in. One of them pulled a pistol from his waistband and said they know what's safe and what's no and it's not safe for white boys to be down here. The local LEO told us to open carry till our concealed carry permits could by gotten.

I been leaving bars as a DD and had a few "upstanding" gentleman approach us and begin to surround us. But by squaring up to the one with the mouth and letting him know we went going to cower. We made ourselves a harder target by having a clear headed individual that was able to address the situation with out just getting physical.

As for personal safety. I believe all of those situations qualify for that. And I have worked a lot of retail in the hood and had hardened criminals complete with prison tats as regular customers. Only once did I fear for my wellbeing. Compared to a LEO or Military veteran I just completed the academy or basic training.

Your turn. What are your experiences.




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Hell your retail experience sounds like my north Seattle pool hall job. And over all it was kinda fun.


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I owned retail (perdominately cash and 14 days, 7 days a week, 90% male clients) business for 17 years. We were open till the wee hours.....you can fill in the rest.

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So you ran a male escort service for gay men and indulged them in their sexually deviant fantasies. Totally explains your username...

Thor.

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Always good to share data. One thing I came across (not mentioned in that article) is that children who come from impoverished families hear an average of 10,000 negative words amd 5,000 positive words by the age of two years old. Children from middle and upper class families hear just the opposite with 10,000 positive words and < 5,000 negative words by the age of two. This is amazing and believed to be a major factor explain the trend differences in cognative abilities of middle school students. The words you hear as a toddler, the positive vs negative interactions are a huge influence on a humans ability to learn soft skills. I heard about this on NPR a few years ago. I believe it was RadioLab. They then went on to talk about how the single largest factor on a childs life long success is did he/she get (group) preSchool education. PreK out weighed everything else: race, class, geographic location. That is how important early childhood development is. Why is this important? Because the government has next to nothing to do with early childhood development or if a parent reads to their kids vs beating up the mother in front of the kids. Parent choices are an enormous factor.

Did you ever see Waiting For Superman ? It's a documentary about inequalities in school education. Very well done. You may like it. It's now on Netflix.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/waiting_for_superman/

I recently listened to a two part This American Life called The Problem We All Live With. It is about the same topic. Race and education in America. Very well done.
562: The Problem We All Live With

PBS Frontline also recently did an hour long segment on race and schools in America. I also thought it was well done.
Separate and Unequal | FRONTLINE | PBS

And a few years ago they did a two part story on reforming education in America, fixing failing schools. It is called The Education of Michelle Rhee. Very good stuff to know.
The Education of Michelle Rhee | FRONTLINE | PBS

I found all of those to be pretty informative and engaging. I think school equality is extremely important for helping to close any of the "race gaps" in childhood education in America. That is why I support the Obama administration's (and the Gates Foundation's) move to shut down failing schools and get rid of poor performing teachers by increasing teacher performance measurements and limiting tenure. No student should be robbed of a chance for a fair education.

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All of this is sad... our country is in a tough time.

Honestly, I disagree with the sentiment things are so down. The media is playing a lot of this up, inviting violence, playing to people's fears.

We are living in one of the most prosperous times in human history with America in the lead. These racial issues are no where as big a deal as the media is making them out to be and as long people keep cool heads then everything will be fine.

America has been through a lot. This week has not been a pearl harbor or a 9/11. It isn't even 1000-th of that degree of problems. Assassinations of political leaders? Whether Underground blowing up military bases? LA Riots? Martial law? Nah.

Things will be fine. The last two weeks has been about online social activism, spurred on by identity politics with a side dish of social justice warriors.
 
Well the Obama administration is very pro Union and you have a better chance throwing rocks in a river to damn it than to fire a tenure teacher. The only way to solve this problem is to dry ionize them. Same reason it's so hard to get rid of the few bad cops. Shootings or otherwise. They shut up and let their union represent them in court if it goes that far. Remember look at the Obama history. He is a union man through and through. Always look for a persons action over what they say. Every politician in every party has said they only want to help their constituents. But their actions prove otherwise.

Bill Gates on the other hand is a definite elitist. He made massive cash withdrawals and then said he is for a state income tax. Don't forget his dad was a tax shelter lawyer. He campaigns for gun bans and gun registration saying average citizens don't need more than a hunting rifle. His house is on Lake Washington and if you get near his dock a nice person wearing a coat on 90+deg days walks down and tells you not to touch the dock. Well if you are in to firearms and a Conceal Carry person. You can see they are all carrying SBR's and pistols. Funny we don't need them but his armed security guards need them.


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No student should be robbed of a chance for a fair education.

Agreed. But what do you do about influences outside the school? You can have the best teacher in the world, but if a student feels that succeeding in class will make him/her a target for the 16 hours a day they are not in class... the attitudes in the community must embrace education before learning has any real chance at success.

I admit this is outside my life experience. Maybe these communities DO embrace education. But that's not the stories I read/hear about. Maybe it's like everything else in the media, blown out of proportion?
 
Actually the Obama administration is extremely disliked by the teachers unions (but probably well liked by actual teachers) because he appointed Arny Duncan as Secretary of Education and he worked with the Gates Foundation to use the government to implement components of Race To The Top which was strongly opposed by teachers unions. That program provided grants to states who rewrite their laws to increase teacher accountability - very much against the wishes of the teachers unions.

Obama's ex chief of staff Rob Emanuel is now the mayor of Chicago. Who does the teachers union hate? Rob Emanuel because he has supported education reform and oversaw the closing of over 50 failing schools (failure factories) in Chicago.

The teachers unions are on the wrong side of public opinion. "Education Reform" which includes performance evaluations for teachers has easily a majority support among Democrats. The support among conservatives is even higher.
 
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Yet he spoke out against Scott walker when he limited the barging power of the unions in Wisconsin. Here are a few examples of how he has supported unions. I truthfully haven't paid attention to his union actions as of late. More watching ISIS and such.

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/polit...ker-signing-anti-union-bill-article-1.2143586

https://www.boilermakers.org/resources/commentary/V48N1

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/209648-obama-us-must-strengthen-unions

It's funny. After reading the chronological order of the Union/Obama headlines. Looks like as soon as he won his second term he turned his back on them. Just a typical politician. As soon as they get what they need all bets are off.




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The Scott Walker incident was not about teachers unions but rather about stripping away the right to collective bargining for all union based jobs in Wisconsin. It was not directly related to teachers and unlike education reform, the disagreement in Wisconsin was taken as nuclear war by the liberals and Democrats. There was a united front against it, unrelated to education reform. I believe the conservatives still won in the end - for now.
 

Dallas police chief's advice to young black men: "We're hiring... Get off that protest line and put an application in."



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Derrick O. Ben:

America has got a problem with it's identity & NOT just #BlackLivesMatter. THEY have grown into a mouthy, cell phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of 'it's the other person's fault', 'you owe me'. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility. When an officer says "Put your hands up," then put your hands up! Don't reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There's plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don't mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply... that escalates the situation.

Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They're black, white, brown, all colors, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity... the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts... day after day. They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.

They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person... any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever... that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control. Many, the majority, of law enforcement officers are Veterans. They've been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.

If you want to protect your child, teach them respect... for themselves, for you as a parent, for their teachers, for police officers. Police officers do not make the laws, they merely enforce them. If you don't like the law, be proactive in the political process. The police officer doesn't have, or want, the role of judge and jury. If you get a speeding ticket... were you speeding? Don't blame the cop if you broke the law. Go to court, pay the fine, don't do it again.

It's easy to judge, it's harder to look within oneself and see what your role should be as a citizen, as a responsible person seeing both sides of the issue.

#AllLivesMatter, #BlueLivesMatter, too!"
 
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Honestly, I disagree with the sentiment things are so down. The media is playing a lot of this up, inviting violence, playing to people's fears.

We are living in one of the most prosperous times in human history with America in the lead. These racial issues are no where as big a deal as the media is making them out to be and as long people keep cool heads then everything will be fine.

America has been through a lot. This week has not been a pearl harbor or a 9/11. It isn't even 1000-th of that degree of problems. Assassinations of political leaders? Whether Underground blowing up military bases? LA Riots? Martial law? Nah.

Things will be fine. The last two weeks has been about online social activism, spurred on by identity politics with a side dish of social justice warriors.



Totally agree. Those that are "angry" now have always been and will likely always be. Get away from the TV.


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Good morning.



It funny your post identifies a word and say that's what bothers you (us). A word is just that. This one is a color. Cars are this color, guns, clothes, ect. Most of the people that sign would bother are not bothered by the word black (used as a race reference). They are bothered by the use of the word black used as a race excluding reference. It's flat out racist. You have not given one word to the counter of that statement.

Would it bother you if it said white lives matter?


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Protestors demanded food, water, and medicine from the authorities during last night's protest in Atlanta. They hurled insults at the police officers - especially when refreshments were not provided to them during the time when the officers ate dinner and took breaks. Kudos to Chic Fil A for providing food to the officers and kudos to the officers for continuing to show great amounts of restraint.
 
This perpetual "ah-ha your opinion is invalid bc you didn't answer my question gotcha" moment so many are after here is super lame.
that's is not the issue. its running away from the conversation, instead of dealing with it head on. its deflecting on answers, or changing the subject entirely. its weak.

We are still waiting for you to answer these details.


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haven't you been paying attention? he "already answered".

funny too, how he read a comment, then summarily dismissed it because he didn't like, or agree with its content. tough to have a productive conversation with someone like that...
 
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