America this week, what the hell?

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He's setting it up so he has an excuse when he loses. He will NEVER admit that he lost. It will be the system being rigged. Also don't count out him dropping out all together. If he is even further behind in the polls than he is now, I could easily see him doing so. Then he'll always be able to say that he never lost. That he wasn't really in it to win because the system is so corrupt. But IF he stayed in, he would obviously have won.

It certainly looks that way and if you take this train of thought further......what does he really think of the people that actually support him if this is even his possible out for losing. He has done more damage to the Republican/Conservative brand while promoting his own very well with the weakest Democratic candidate in decades. He is an agent provocateur for the Democrats and a damn fine one at that!
 
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So, is Victor going to go down and beat Jeremy's ass or what?

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Seriously, this election is very depressing. Neither Trump nor Hillary are fit for office. It's like choosing between a shit sandwich or a turd burger. Both are crap and nobody really wants either one.

It`s not me he should be afraid off but rather himself.
Seriously you right, Democracy at it`s lowest, we have visual of choices but neither are real choice. Depressing it is.
 
He's setting it up so he has an excuse when he loses. He will NEVER admit that he lost. It will be the system being rigged. Also don't count out him dropping out all together. If he is even further behind in the polls than he is now, I could easily see him doing so. Then he'll always be able to say that he never lost. That he wasn't really in it to win because the system is so corrupt. But IF he stayed in, he would obviously have won.


All the nonsense he's spouting right now about the election being rigged is downright dangerous. There hasn't been any substantial doubt about a presidential election's validity in this country in a long long time, but I'm sure some of Trumps supporters believe what he's saying.

I think having him drop out would be the best thing that ever happened. That would set up a race between Hillary and the Libertarian candidate, and I'd say he'd have a good chance of winning.
 
Today's paper:

NYT: Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump’s Campaign Chief

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html?

Hand-written ledgers show $12.7 million in cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from the pro-Russian political party of Viktor F. Yanukovych. Mr. Manafort did not receive “any such cash payments,” his lawyer said.
ERIC THAYER FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES


Also see:
Washington Post | The Daily 202: Can Trump chairman Paul Manafort survive new Ukraine revelations?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ukraine-revelations/57b0ec7ccd249a2fe363ba20/

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Today's paper:

NYT: Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump’s Campaign Chief

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html?




Also see:
Washington Post | The Daily 202: Can Trump chairman Paul Manafort survive new Ukraine revelations?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ukraine-revelations/57b0ec7ccd249a2fe363ba20/

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So, I'm guessing this is confirmation that Putin has both sides of this election in his pocket.:smow:
 
Who do you trust more? The Russians supposedly giving money/support to Trump, or the middle eastern countries supposedly pumping cash/support to Hillary (through the Clinton Foundation)?
 
Who do you trust more? The Russians supposedly giving money/support to Trump, or the middle eastern countries supposedly pumping cash/support to Hillary (through the Clinton Foundation)?

Seriously? I'd have to go with Killary because she has a better "cleaner crew". Trump is still an inexperienced rookie........you don't want him to get "cleaners".

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First of all, there's a difference between "Government" and a political party.






You can't be serious.

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I could go on and on. The US currently has the most lethal military this planet has ever seen, and that's in spite of what that idiot Trump would tell you (as if his draft dodging ass is even remotely qualified to make an assessment!)
a large portion of the government you like so much is made up by republicans that you do not.

government is a 2-headed monster, and they are both trying to eat us.


so, military and infrastructure? something that actually would be the governments responsibility. perhaps that's where they need to keep their interests, and not in private business. though, the amount of money that was spent on those things, im not sure they could be deemed a success. plus all the other areas they have failed. I would say in general, the American government is terrible at "governing". but they are great at spending!



My tax dollars subsidize all kinds of stuff I don't particularly care about. Why get your panties in a wad over one specific part I'm not sure, waste of time.

Oh, and heavens to Betsy the military budget in just dwindling!

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The US spends more on defense than the next seven countries combined.

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The sky...it's falling!!!
that's a good thing. its one of the few roles of our government, it should be high on the list.
 
Who do you trust more? The Russians supposedly giving money/support to Trump, or the middle eastern countries supposedly pumping cash/support to Hillary (through the Clinton Foundation)?

I don't trust either of them.

But I trust Hilary less.

I trust them both to do what's in THEIR best interest and not that of the American people/nation at large.
 
a large portion of the government you like so much is made up by republicans that you do not.

government is a 2-headed monster, and they are both trying to eat us.


so, military and infrastructure? something that actually would be the governments responsibility. perhaps that's where they need to keep their interests, and not in private business. though, the amount of money that was spent on those things, im not sure they could be deemed a success. plus all the other areas they have failed. I would say in general, the American government is terrible at "governing". but they are great at spending!



that's a good thing. its one of the few roles of our government, it should be high on the list.

Didn't say it was a bad thing. Just providing some facts to the crybaby crying about our "dwindling" military.
 
Didn't say it was a bad thing. Just providing some facts to the crybaby crying about our "dwindling" military.



Ok first off I didn't say dwindling. Please show me where I said that, I said downsizing and lower moral.

It's funny how you change a word and change the meaning to make your point. I would expect nothing less from you.

I am for working smarter not harder and will get to that in a bit. Georg H W Bush was in office when the USSR fell and slowly started to reduce the number of active troops in the military. So Clinton took office shortly after the fall of the USSR. He began to shrink the military as we were the only super power left at the time. Then George W. Invaded Iraq and the military grows a bit. But not actually that much. Then Obama starts pulling troop out of Iraq because he ended that war and cut 40,000? Troops, not many compared to Clinton. This is still shrinking.

http://historyinpieces.com/research/us-military-personnel-1954-2014

So let's move to the work smarter not harder bit of it. The unmanned UAV's I believe are a good idea. Still human controlled but if they get shot down no pilot's life is lost. They do provide their own set of complications. Hacking being the major one. I am sure we are constantly studying and upgrading our software and security protocol to help deal with this and I believe they have been successful for the most part. Now factor in to autonomous target acquiring and decision making and this issue is hacking issue is compounded. So you have a fully automated armed military weapon flying at the will of a computer. Computers get hacked all the time. Doesn't matter who you are or how good your IT people are. It happens and there is nothing you can do to fully prevent that. Google of all companies is leading the military robotics field and there are companies that are writing targeting and shooting software that doesn't involve a human go-no go. Wether of not these get put in to use time will tell. But that is the direction we are going.

If you keep shrinking the military you in effect cut jobs and benefits of citizen willing to volunteer to defend this country. You also enter a big uncharted area for letting robots make real time decisions. Slippery slope.
 
Ok first off I didn't say dwindling. Please show me where I said that, I said downsizing and lower moral.

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Maybe I am wrong here and if I am I am sure this can turn into another page of confused thoughts but, I interpreted his comment as referring to Donald Trump.
 
Ok let's see. Our roads and infrastructure and in desperate need of being repaired. Have been for 15+ years.
Our military while they are still awesome has been downsized tremendously since Clinton. Moral is not nearly what it used to be. Not nearly.
As to those awesome weapons of war. Planes subs tanks ect. Who makes those again. Not who pays for them. But who makes them. Boeing, McDonald Douglas, transmissions for tanks built by Allison, ect. All companies owned by share holders. Not companies run by the government.

Ok sex in high school. How many partners do you think every guy had a year when you graduated? 3,4? Are you even familiar with what's going on today? Just in the early 2000's there were "lipstick parties" up in the Redmond Washington where girls 14,15,16 years old would where different colors of lipstick and compete to see who could be better at a particular act for foreplay. All with one or 2 guys at the same time and more than once or twice a week. It was common and they would brag about it. Then there are apps like tinder and grinder that solely have been designed for helping people have sex easier. No if your responsible it's one thing. But if you are just hoping you don't get a std and she doesn't get pregnant by chance then your not being responsible.

As to abortions being paid for by the public. Are you that blind? Really?
Ok so you say I can't afford health insurance. So you need to subsidize my health insurance. The subsidy comes from where? The government? So tax dollars?
Abortion is mandatory coverage in health insurance under the ACA. Or let's go to planed parenthood. They get government money to operate and then after free/subsidized abortions to those that can't pay for them. That's government money no matter how you slice it. If you take that money from them will they still have their operating budget that they manage to pay for abortions with?


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Was this the post you were referencing ndcent? The one where you accused me of saying our military was dwindling? If not please point it out.

And no its wasn't about trump.


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