America this week, what the hell?

[ThorInc]

Are you saying that it 1% of the black population or 1% of the protestors? I could believe of the population but protestors not so much


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Let me rephrase it for you: For that kind of rethoric and behaviour, even 1% would be too much.

 

[nevada]

worth a read.


Silencing Whitey - Mike Adams

 

[-JD-]

This madness in Turkey is probably not going to end well. This is worrying....

Live updates: Military uprising in Turkey - CNN.com

 

[ndcent]

And then there is Pence.

 

[ThorInc]

Should have been Christie! :dancin:

 

[_#1_]

Should have been Christie! :dancin:

Move down Here and become a US citizen then your opinion might mean something :first:

 

[BrianSD_42]

worth a read.


Silencing Whitey - Mike Adams

I think it is very sad that while previous civil rights movements were led out the black middle class and the churches this be movement appears to be just the opposite. Instead of Martin Luther King we get the woman rudely interrupting Bernie Sanders, the rich kid at University of Missouri who goes on a hunger strike, shuts down campus and demands introduction of speech codes. Also there is Ferguson, now practically burned to the ground by the protestors themselves. The list goes on and on.

In particular I take issue with the fact that they oppose free speech at every turn. Their arguments don't add up. It isn't a white vs black thing. At least not to me. I have spoken with several black people i know closely and they are shocked by the violence against police, the anti speech thuggery (Obama's words bro) coming out of this movement.

Many other leftist movements have crushed speech over the years. The term politically correct is an insult but it actually refers to Mao's little red book and the language contained within telling readers that speech that does not conform with Mao's ideology should be limited and controlled. That the people cannot be trusted. The BLM movement is doing the same thing. Just look at the Missouri protests a few months ago. They demand to control speech. They say the media is run by white supremecy and therefore the people can't be trusted with speech.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_correctness


I agree with this statement from the web post. Basically the movement so far is terrible for race relations. Americans turn on their TVs and this is what they see... Black protesters attacking reporters, killing cops, throwing bricks, screaming, burning down buildings. It's horrible and unfair to African Americans. A small minority of the black population is dominating 99% of the news coverage. Even the President says many of these guys are acting like thugs. I think the BLM movement is a huge step backward in race relations and in particular how black people are percieved by the media. All of this is rife with irony of course because BLM is likely contributing even further to the fears and prejudices they were complaining about in the first place.

The problem for such racist extremists is that these tactics eventually backfire. By targeting white people with physical assaults and intimidation, they merely reinforce the racist stereotype that blacks are aggressive, assaultive, and violent. It is worth noting that such stereotypes are the alleged causes of black deaths at the hands of white cops in the first place. One might be tempted to say that the group renders itself useless by reinforcing the very notions against which they claim to be fighting.

 

[ThorInc]

Move down Here and become a US citizen then your opinion might mean something :first:

No thanks!

 

[T4R2014]

Why are some guys throwing *****-fits because there are Canadians giving opinions in here? Calm your tits.

 

[ThorInc]

Why are some guys throwing *****-fits because there are Canadians giving opinions in here? Calm your tits.

No worries bud and thank you. We are still gonna chime in :violin:!

 

[hikenbike]

No thanks!

Canadian Opinions Matter, eh !!


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[_#1_]

No thanks!

I can't blame ya haha.

Just saw a compilation vid on "police ambush". It's crazy how cops have literally split second to decide to use deadly force when pulling ANYONE over. Or responding to a potentially dangerous individual.

Why are some guys throwing *****-fits because there are Canadians giving opinions in here? Calm your tits.

If I had tits, I'd squeeze them all day

Relax dude, just joking with our neighbor man. Have a sense of humor.

 

[-JD-]

Why are some guys throwing *****-fits because there are Canadians giving opinions in here? Calm your tits.

It's divisive. Many of those same people are just as divisive with others that disagree with them as well. It's easier to label someone as being something different than yourself and use that as a reason to dismiss their opinion/point rather than consider what they're saying and address their logic or point of view.

 

[Thefishguy77]

While I respect all people as individuals. When someone that does not vote for our politics or is not subject to the mess that is going on in America there opinion is just that. Some opinions are just that. Just opinions. And some on here seem to be trolling for a reaction. If Americans were telling Canadians that they are wrong about what's going on in their country. I'm sure more than one Canadian with sense of Canadian pride would chime in and ask them why those crazy Americans feel like they understand Canadian laws and politics so much. The bottom line is with our current government, last 24 years, there have been laws made based solely on opinion and completely subverting the constitutional process. There by bypassing the voter. And in a republic that's a big no no. So some of us are more passionate about it that others. The media is controlled mostly a left/liberal group of people and the same goes for most of social media. So when we see what appear to be lies, miss information, and just blatant ignoring of actual facts we tend to point it out. And that goes for both sides. It's just now since we have a liberal progressive president it the conservative side that's vocal. When bush was in office the left screamed to high heaven. So it's pretty much the same response on both sides.

To the reality of the situation is that the press has us so divided amongst ourselves that we don't realize that we probably have more in common with each other than our "like minded" elected representatives.


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[ThorInc]

While I respect all people as individuals. When someone that does not vote for our politics or is not subject to the mess that is going on in America there opinion is just that. Some opinions are just that. Just opinions. And some on here seem to be trolling for a reaction. If Americans were telling Canadians that they are wrong about what's going on in their country. I'm sure more than one Canadian with sense of Canadian pride would chime in and ask them why those crazy Americans feel like they understand Canadian laws and politics so much. The bottom line is with our current government, last 24 years, there have been laws made based solely on opinion and completely subverting the constitutional process. There by bypassing the voter. And in a republic that's a big no no. So some of us are more passionate about it that others. The media is controlled mostly a left/liberal group of people and the same goes for most of social media. So when we see what appear to be lies, miss information, and just blatant ignoring of actual facts we tend to point it out. And that goes for both sides. It's just now since we have a liberal progressive president it the conservative side that's vocal. When bush was in office the left screamed to high heaven. So it's pretty much the same response on both sides.

To the reality of the situation is that the press has us so divided amongst ourselves that we don't realize that we probably have more in common with each other than our "like minded" elected representatives.


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I actually agree with all of this. The political division fueled and profited on by the 24hour news media and the length of the US election process has actually made things appear much worst and disparaging and that has tentacle effects. Honestly, it's simple greed, we ***** and scream and they laugh all the way to the bank. My Canadian loonie....can still be converted to the greenback anytime :rockon:

 

[RunninInGA]

Should have been Christie! :dancin:

Can you imagine what he'd do to Michelle Obama's efforts with healthier school lunches? There'd be twinkies and ho-hos in everybody's lunch sack in the first week!

 

[RunninInGA]

I really thought this was satire, but this kind of stuff can't be made up. The comments are just as telling. How is this not racist?

For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests - Wear Your Voice

To many Black folks at these rallies though, we are openly and publicly grieving. Our protests and rebellions are out of channeling our trauma into action that is a form of healing, strategy and moving through pain. We are marching, yelling, singing, physically and mentally exhausted because WHITE PEOPLE ARE KILLING US. So when I see white people show up to rally excited and smiling, ready to march like it’s a hobby — I’m disgusted and absolutely ****ing livid. When I witness white people taking up space, pushing myths of whiteness as political truth or using white saviorism to reframe their power and privilege, I’m ready to fight.

Pretty sure blacks are killing blacks and blacks are killing whites at much higher rates but those facts don't matter I guess.

 

[BrianSD_42]

I came across this on Facebook today ... what do you all think?

It was posted by Jay Stalien, an African American police officer in Palm Beach County, FL and has been liked more than 150,000 times.

https://www.facebook.com/jay.stalien/posts/911372818974402

I have come to realize something that is still hard for me to understand to this day. The following may be a shock to some coming from an African American, but the mere fact that it may be shocking to some is prima facie evidence of the sad state of affairs that we are in as Humans.
I used to be so torn inside growing up. Here I am, a young African-American born and raised in Brooklyn, NY wanting to be a cop. I watched and lived through the crime that took place in the hood. My own black people killing others over nothing. Crack heads and heroin addicts lined the lobby of my building as I shuffled around them to make my way to our 1 bedroom apartment with 6 of us living inside. I used to be woken up in the middle of the night by the sound of gun fire, only to look outside and see that it was 2 African Americans shooting at each other.

It never sat right with me. I wanted to help my community and stop watching the blood of African Americans spilled on the street at the hands of a fellow black man. I became a cop because black lives in my community, along with ALL lives, mattered to me, and wanted to help stop the bloodshed.
As time went by in my law enforcement career, I quickly began to realize something. I remember the countless times I stood 2 inches from a young black man, around my age, laying on his back, gasping for air as blood filled his lungs. I remember them bleeding profusely with the unforgettable smell of deoxygenated dark red blood in the air, as it leaked from the bullet holes in his body on to the hot sidewalk on a summer day.

I remember the countless family members who attacked me, spit on me, cursed me out, as I put up crime scene tape to cordon off the crime scene, yelling and screaming out of pain and anger at the sight of their loved ones taking their last breath. I never took it personally, I knew they were hurting. I remember the countless times I had to order new uniforms, because the ones I had on, were bloody from the blood of another black victim…of black on black crime. I remember the countless times I got back in my patrol car, distraught after having watched another black male die in front me, having to start my preliminary report something like this:

Suspect- Black/ Male, Victim-Black /Male.
I remember the countless times I canvassed the area afterwards, and asked everyone “did you see who did it”, and the popular response from the very same family members was always, “**** the Police, I ain't no snitch, Im gonna take care of this myself". This happened every single time, every single homicide, black on black, and then my realization became clearer.
I woke up every morning, put my freshly pressed uniform on, shined my badge, functioned checked my weapon, kissed my wife and kid, and waited for my wife to say the same thing she always does before I leave, “Make sure you come back home to us”. I always replied, “I will”, but the truth was I was never sure if I would. I almost lost my life on this job, and every call, every stop, every moment that I had this uniform on, was another possibility for me to almost lose my life again.

I was a target in the very community I swore to protect, the very community I wanted to help. As a matter of fact, they hated my very presence. They called me “Uncle Tom”, and “wanna be white boy”, and I couldn’t understand why. My own fellow black men and women attacking me, wishing for my death, wishing for the death of my family. I was so confused, so torn, I couldn’t understand why my own black people would turn against me, when every time they called …I was there. Every time someone died….I was there. Every time they were going through one of the worst moments in their lives…I was there. So why was I the enemy? I dove deep into that question…Why was I the enemy? Then my realization became clearer.
I spoke to members of the community and listened to some of the complaints as to why they hated cops. I then did research on the facts. I also presented facts to these members of the community, and listened to their complaints in response.


This is what I learned:

Complaint: Police always targeting us, they always messing with the black man.
Fact: A city where the majority of citizens are black (Baltimore for example) …will ALWAYS have a higher rate of black people getting arrested, it will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks getting stopped, and will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks getting killed, and the reason why is because a city with those characteristics will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks committing crime. The statistics will follow the same trend for Asians if you go to China, for Hispanics if you go to Puerto Rico, for whites if you go to Russia, and the list goes on. It’s called Demographics

Complaint: More black people get arrested than white boys.
Fact: Black People commit a grossly disproportionate amount of crime. Data from the FBI shows that Nationwide, Blacks committed 5,173 homicides in 2014, whites committed 4,367. Chicago’s death toll is almost equal to that of both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined. Chicago’s death toll from 2001–November, 26 2015 stands at 7,401. The combined total deaths during Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003-2015: 4,815) and Operation Enduring Freedom/Afghanistan (2001-2015: 3,506), total 8,321.

Complaint: Blacks are the only ones getting killed by police, or they are killed more.
Fact: As of July 2016, the breakdown of the number of US Citizens killed by Police this year is, 238 White people killed, 123 Black people killed, 79 Hispanics, 69 other/or unknown race.
Fact: Black people kill more other blacks than Police do, and there are only protest and outrage when a cop kills a black man. University of Toledo criminologist Dr. Richard R. Johnson examined the latest crime data from the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports and Centers for Disease Control and found that an average of 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012. Professor Johnson’s research further concluded that 112 black men died from both justified and unjustified police-involved killings annually during this same period.

Complaint: Well we already doing a good job of killing ourselves, we don’t need the Police to do it. Besides they should know better.
The more I listened, the more I realized. The more I researched, the more I realized. I would ask questions, and would only get emotional responses & inferences based on no facts at all. The more killing I saw, the more tragedy, the more savagery, the more violence, the more loss of life of a black man at the hands of another black man….the more I realized.
I haven’t slept well in the past few nights. Heartbreak weighs me down, rage flows through my veins, and tears fills my eyes. I watched my fellow officers assassinated on live television, and the images of them laying on the ground are seared into my brain forever. I couldn’t help but wonder if it had been me, a black man, a black cop, on TV, assassinated, laying on the ground dead,..would my friends and family still think black lives mattered? Would my life have mattered? Would they make t-shirts in remembrance of me? Would they go on tv and protest violence? Would they even make a Facebook post, or share a post in reference to my death?

All of my realizations came to this conclusion. Black Lives do not matter to most black people. Only the lives that make the national news matter to them. Only the lives that are taken at the hands of cops or white people, matter. The other thousands of lives lost, the other black souls that I along with every cop, have seen taken at the hands of other blacks, do not matter. Their deaths are unnoticed, accepted as the “norm”, and swept underneath the rug by the very people who claim and post “black lives matter”.

I realized that this country is full of ignorance, where an educated individual will watch the ratings-driven news media, and watch a couple YouTube video clips, and then come to the conclusion that they have all the knowledge they need to have in order to know what it feels like to have a bullet proof vest as part of your office equipment, “Stay Alive” as part of your daily to do list, and having insurance for your health insurance because of the high rate of death in your profession. They watch a couple videos and then they magically know in 2 minutes 35 seconds, how you are supposed to handle a violent encounter, which took you 6 months of Academy training, 2 – 3 months of field training, and countless years of blood, sweat, tears and broken bones experiencing violent encounters and fine tuning your execution of the Use of Force Continuum.

I realized that there are even cops, COPS, duly sworn law enforcement officers, who are supposed to be decent investigators, who will publicly go on the media and call other white cops racist and KKK, based on a video clip that they watched thousands of miles away, which was filmed after the fact, based on a case where the details aren’t even known yet and the investigation hasn’t even begun.

I realized that most in the African American community refuse to look at solving the bigger problem that I see and deal with every day, which is black on black crime taking hundreds of innocent black lives each year, and instead focus on the 9 questionable deaths of black men, where some were in the act of committing crimes.

I realized that they value the life of a Sex Offender and Convicted Felon, [who was in the act of committing multiple felonies: felon in possession of a firearm-FELONY, brandishing and threatening a homeless man with a gun-Aggravated Assault in Florida: FELONY, who resisted officers who first tried to taze him, and WAS NOT RESTRAINED, who can be clearly seen in one of the videos raising his right shoulder, then shooting it down towards the right side of his body exactly where the firearm was located and recovered] more than the lives of the innocent cops who were assassinated in Dallas protecting the very people that hated them the most.

I realized that they refuse to believe that most cops acknowledge that there are Bad cops who should have never been given a badge & gun, who are chicken shit and will shoot a cockroach if it crawls at them too fast, who never worked in the hood and may be intimidated. That most cops dread the thought of having to shoot someone, and never see the turmoil and mental anguish that a cop goes through after having to kill someone to save his own life. Instead they believe that we are all blood thirsty killers, because the media says so, even though the numbers prove otherwise.

I realize that they truly feel as if the death of cops will help people realize the false narrative that Black Lives Matter, when all it will do is take their movement two steps backwards and label them domestic terrorist.

I realized that some of these people, who say Black Lives Matter, are full of hate and racism. Hate for cops, because of the false narrative that more black people are targeted and killed. Racism against white people, for a tragedy that began 100’s of years ago, when most of the white people today weren’t even born yet. I realized that some in the African American community’s idea of “Justice” is the prosecution of ANY and EVERY cop or white man that kills or is believed to have killed a black man, no matter what the circumstances are.

I realized the African American community refuses to look within to solve its major issues, and instead makes excuses and looks outside for solutions. I realized that a lot of people in the African American community lead with hate, instead of love. Division instead of Unity. Turmoil and rioting, instead of Peace. I realized that they have become the very entity that they claim they are fighting against.

I realized that the very reasons I became a cop, are the very reasons my own people hate me, and now in this toxic hateful racially charged political climate, I am now more likely to die,... and it is still hard for me to understand…. to this day.

:yo:

 

[Yukon4Runner]

I came across this on Facebook today ... what do you all think?

It was posted by Jay Stalien, an African American police officer in Palm Beach County, FL and has been liked more than 150,000 times.

I think he needs to start with an executive summary at the beginning.

I'm going to post a quiz to test the content knowledge of the 150,000 likers.


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[BrianSD_42]

It did take me a few minutes to read through but it's really not that much to read.

I'm going to post a quiz to test the content knowledge of the 150,000 likers.

If you are insinuating many people probably didn't make it through. Perhaps. But based on your posts (which I don't always agree with), he says what you want to hear.