America this week, what the hell?

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Ok so I feel the need to address my last comment. It is a little abrasive and unexplained.
Between Ndecent feeling that only racist people hate Obama and it's solely because of the color of his skin. (He is 1/2 white BTW) is super closed minded. By that logic when black people didn't like Bush was it because he was white?

And Hikenbike saying that the link I posted was not worth reading because he thinks the person who wrote the article is a wench and I am assuming the question mark after the "woman" in the post meant you were questioning her Sexuality? Did I get that correct. And you obviously think Hannity is a lying individual. As per previous Hikenbike form I doubt you will even attempt to justify or rationalize these statements but rather go out side and take a picture of a building and say everything is ok. But should you do something different and attempt to back up your statement. Please explain how Anne Coulter is a wench. And how Hannity can not be used as a reference. If you have legitimate reasons I would love to hear them. If it's solely because you have a fundamental disagreement with them that you decide to slander them, well that give us good insight to your true person.

I posted the Anne Coulter article because I felt it listed several points that the MSM won't report. Not saying I'm a fan of hers. But I am open minded enough to know I don't know everything so the best thing to do is look for other sources and read them. You don't have to believe them at all. But the more information you can take in on a subject the better chance you have of making an informed decision on the subject. That's why I try and read as many sources as I can regardless of the political orientation they may have.

As to my brainwashed liberal comment let me expand it to brainwashed individual if you are unwilling to read other sources that contradict you own personal beliefs.


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I don't think the vetting process is a joke. I think the US does a much better job of it than most other countries. As they do at integrating these refugee's once they arrive. Europe is another story.

You've subtly shifted the debate though, I have never been advocating for open borders or to let in all refugee's. I'm not even opposed to more thorough screening for those from high risk countries, my point was that it was ignorant to ban all muslims. Most of your argument seems to be against points I'm not making.
 
Ok JD I actually wasn't real addressing you in the comment I touched ndecent and Hikenbike. But on you comment on immigration screening. Why is it that we are constantly being told by whistle blowers in CBP that massive amounts of sick refugees are being bussed around the country from Mexico and further south countries. We have had more TB outbreaks than anytime in recent history. More random smaller outbreaks we haven't seen in a long time. The current POTUS is using the espionage act to prosecute whistleblowers. That's a little petty to prosecute CBP and reporters under espionage charges. And why because they felt it was their duty to report to their fellow citizen what was going. When they did it to Nixon they were hero's. When the do it to this administration they are criminals. Sorry tangent. But I was not trying to shift your argument. But the fact that the health screening are not being done on a whole level and the FBI and homeland both say better screening needs to be done for Muslim refugees should say something. Just because they are doing something and it is better than most of the other world. Doesn't mean that we shouldn't continue to improve it.


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Thefishguy77 said:
Ok so I feel the need to address my last comment. It is a little abrasive and unexplained.
Between Ndecent feeling that only racist people hate Obama and it's solely because of the color of his skin. (He is 1/2 white BTW) is super closed minded. By that logic when black people didn't like Bush was it because he was white?

And Hikenbike saying that the link I posted was not worth reading because he thinks the person who wrote the article is a wench and I am assuming the question mark after the "woman" in the post meant you were questioning her Sexuality? Did I get that correct. And you obviously think Hannity is a lying individual. As per previous Hikenbike form I doubt you will even attempt to justify or rationalize these statements but rather go out side and take a picture of a building and say everything is ok. But should you do something different and attempt to back up your statement. Please explain how Anne Coulter is a wench. And how Hannity can not be used as a reference. If you have legitimate reasons I would love to hear them. If it's solely because you have a fundamental disagreement with them that you decide to slander them, well that give us good insight to your true person.

I posted the Anne Coulter article because I felt it listed several points that the MSM won't report. Not saying I'm a fan of hers. But I am open minded enough to know I don't know everything so the best thing to do is look for other sources and read them. You don't have to believe them at all. But the more information you can take in on a subject the better chance you have of making an informed decision on the subject. That's why I try and read as many sources as I can regardless of the political orientation they may have.

As to my brainwashed liberal comment let me expand it to brainwashed individual if you are unwilling to read other sources that contradict you own personal beliefs.


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A building? That's not just a building. It's the single strongest building on Earth and an absolute symbol of strength, innovation, perseverance and freedom. We will NEVER forget.

To some here who suggest our national defense and law enforcement, investigation, and intelligence authorities are weak is irresponsible and ignorant. Is everything perfect? Of course not......perfect doesn't exist. Live you life elsewhere in a better place if you can't appreciate what we have.

Coulter is scum. Yes I am very closed minded on anything that comes out her filthy maggot mouth......as well as Hannity. They are not credible references just as Maddow and other MSNBC'ers aren't either. The wench and the weasel only come from mean-spirited fear-mongering angles preying on the stupid and simple minded. Any "valid" points you think she makes can be gotten elsewhere if they are truly credible. Citing them from only her makes them extremely questionable. Again, shes no source, she's pure scum.

I'll tell you what I think based on what I read, see, hear, and experience. You want links to "sources" find them yourself.


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hikenbike said:
A building? That's not just a building. It's the single strongest building on Earth and an absolute symbol of strength, innovation, perseverance and freedom. We will NEVER forget.

To some here who suggest our national defense and law enforcement, investigation, and intelligence authorities are weak is irresponsible and ignorant. Is everything perfect? Of course not......perfect doesn't exist. Live you life elsewhere in a better place if you can't appreciate what we have.

Coulter is scum. Yes I am very closed minded on anything that comes out her filthy maggot mouth......as well as Hannity. They are not credible references just as Maddow and other MSNBC'ers aren't either. The wench and the weasel only come from mean-spirited fear-mongering angles preying on the stupid and simple minded. Any "valid" points you think she makes can be gotten elsewhere if they are truly credible. Citing them from only her makes them extremely questionable. Again, shes no source, she's pure scum.

I'll tell you what I think based on what I read, see, hear, and experience. You want links to "sources" find them yourself.


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Oh yea. By your logic is there any reporter that can be heard. All give news from an angle. So who's to judge what's for fear mongering vs ratings.

And you still only called people names. Never once backed up your point. Very intellectual of you. So good you could be the next Trump or Hillary. I'm impressed.


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hikenbike said:
A building? That's not just a building. It's the single strongest building on Earth and an absolute symbol of strength, innovation, perseverance and freedom. We will NEVER forget.

To some here who suggest our national defense and law enforcement, investigation, and intelligence authorities are weak is irresponsible and ignorant. Is everything perfect? Of course not......perfect doesn't exist. Live you life elsewhere in a better place if you can't appreciate what we have.

Coulter is scum. Yes I am very closed minded on anything that comes out her filthy maggot mouth......as well as Hannity. They are not credible references just as Maddow and other MSNBC'ers aren't either. The wench and the weasel only come from mean-spirited fear-mongering angles preying on the stupid and simple minded. Any "valid" points you think she makes can be gotten elsewhere if they are truly credible. Citing them from only her makes them extremely questionable. Again, shes no source, she's pure scum.

I'll tell you what I think based on what I read, see, hear, and experience. You want links to "sources" find them yourself.


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I'm all for varied news sources. I'll read some brietbart, /conservative Reddit, sometimes will tune into some Glenn Beck (more for entertainment) or even listen to Rush in the afternoon.

Coulter though is absolute scum.
 
Interesting to read for the first time in 128 years he Harvard Republican Club isn't endorsing the republican nominee.

Letter:

Dear Members and Alumni,

In every presidential election since 1888, the members and Executive Board of the Harvard Republican Club have gathered to discuss, debate, and eventually endorse the standard-bearer of our party. But for the first time in 128 years, we, the oldest College Republicans chapter in the nation, will not be endorsing the Republican nominee.

Donald Trump holds views that are antithetical to our values not only as Republicans, but as Americans. The rhetoric he espouses –from racist slander to misogynistic taunts– is not consistent with our conservative principles, and his repeated mocking of the disabled and belittling of the sacrifices made by prisoners of war, Gold Star families, and Purple Heart recipients is not only bad politics, but absurdly cruel. If enacted, Donald Trump’s platform would endanger our security both at home and abroad. Domestically, his protectionist trade policies and draconian immigration restrictions would enlarge our federal deficit, raise prices for consumers, and throw our economy back into recession. Trump’s global outlook, steeped in isolationism, is considerably out-of-step with the traditional Republican stance as well. The flippancy with which he is willing to abdicate the United States’ responsibility to lead is alarming. Calling for the US’ withdrawal from NATO and actively endorsing nuclear proliferation, Donald Trump’s foreign policy would wreak havoc on the established world order which has held aggressive foreign powers in check since World War II. Perhaps most importantly, however, Donald Trump simply does not possess the temperament and character necessary to lead the United States through an increasingly perilous world. The last week should have made obvious to all what has been obvious to most for more than a year. In response to any slight –perceived or real– Donald Trump lashes out viciously and irresponsibly. In Trump’s eyes, disagreement with his actions or his policies warrants incessant name calling and derision: stupid, lying, fat, ugly, weak, failing, idiot –and that’s just his “fellow” Republicans.

He isn’t eschewing political correctness. He is eschewing basic human decency.

Donald Trump, despite spending more than a year on the campaign trail, has either refused or been unable to educate himself on issues that matter most to Americans like us. He speaks only in platitudes, about greatness, success, and winning. Time and time again, Trump has demonstrated his complete lack of knowledge on critical matters, meandering from position to position over the course of the election. When confronted about these frequent reversals, Trump lies in a manner more brazen and shameless than anything politics has ever seen.

Millions of people across the country are feeling despondent. Their hours have been cut, wages slashed, jobs even shipped overseas. But Donald Trump doesn’t have a plan to fix that. He has a plan to exploit that.

Donald Trump is a threat to the survival of the Republic. His authoritarian tendencies and flirtations with fascism are unparalleled in the history of our democracy. He hopes to divide us by race, by class, and by religion, instilling enough fear and anxiety to propel himself to the White House. He is looking to to pit neighbor against neighbor, friend against friend, American against American. We will not stand for this vitriolic rhetoric that is poisoning our country and our children.

President Reagan called on us to maintain this, our shining city on a hill. He called on us to maintain freedom abroad by keeping a strong presence in the world. He called on us to maintain liberty at home by upholding the democratic process and respecting our opponents. He called on us to maintain decency in our hearts by loving our neighbor. He would be ashamed of Donald Trump. We are too.

This fall, we will instead focus our efforts on reclaiming the Republican Party from those who have done it considerable harm, campaigning for candidates who will uphold the conservative principles that have defined the Republican Party for generations. We will work to ensure both chambers of Congress remain in Republican hands, continuing to protect against executive overreach regardless of who wins the election this November.

We call on our party’s elected leaders to renounce their support of Donald Trump, and urge our fellow College Republicans to join us in condemning and withholding their endorsement from this dangerous man. The conservative movement in America should not and will not go quietly into the night. A longtime student of American democracy, Alexis de Tocqueville once said, “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”

De Tocqueville believed in the United States. Americans are a decent people. We work hard, protect our own, and look out for one another in times of need, regardless of the color of our skin, the God we worship, or our party registration. Donald Trump may not believe in that America, but we do. And that America will never cease to be great.

The Harvard Republican Club
 
Holy S**t people!?!?!

Can we all just enjoy some Happy Little Trees!!!

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ndcent said:
I'm all for varied news sources. I'll read some brietbart, /conservative Reddit, sometimes will tune into some Glenn Beck (more for entertainment) or even listen to Rush in the afternoon.

Coulter though is absolute scum.
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Damn, Glenn Beck, really? When he talks, all I hear is fingernails on a chalkboard.


Herman Cain is another one I've tuned out almost completely.
 
ndcent said:
Interesting to read for the first time in 128 years he Harvard Republican Club isn't endorsing the republican nominee.



Letter:



Dear Members and Alumni,



In every presidential election since 1888, the members and Executive Board of the Harvard Republican Club have gathered to discuss, debate, and eventually endorse the standard-bearer of our party. But for the first time in 128 years, we, the oldest College Republicans chapter in the nation, will not be endorsing the Republican nominee.



Donald Trump holds views that are antithetical to our values not only as Republicans, but as Americans. The rhetoric he espouses –from racist slander to misogynistic taunts– is not consistent with our conservative principles, and his repeated mocking of the disabled and belittling of the sacrifices made by prisoners of war, Gold Star families, and Purple Heart recipients is not only bad politics, but absurdly cruel. If enacted, Donald Trump’s platform would endanger our security both at home and abroad. Domestically, his protectionist trade policies and draconian immigration restrictions would enlarge our federal deficit, raise prices for consumers, and throw our economy back into recession. Trump’s global outlook, steeped in isolationism, is considerably out-of-step with the traditional Republican stance as well. The flippancy with which he is willing to abdicate the United States’ responsibility to lead is alarming. Calling for the US’ withdrawal from NATO and actively endorsing nuclear proliferation, Donald Trump’s foreign policy would wreak havoc on the established world order which has held aggressive foreign powers in check since World War II. Perhaps most importantly, however, Donald Trump simply does not possess the temperament and character necessary to lead the United States through an increasingly perilous world. The last week should have made obvious to all what has been obvious to most for more than a year. In response to any slight –perceived or real– Donald Trump lashes out viciously and irresponsibly. In Trump’s eyes, disagreement with his actions or his policies warrants incessant name calling and derision: stupid, lying, fat, ugly, weak, failing, idiot –and that’s just his “fellow” Republicans.



He isn’t eschewing political correctness. He is eschewing basic human decency.



Donald Trump, despite spending more than a year on the campaign trail, has either refused or been unable to educate himself on issues that matter most to Americans like us. He speaks only in platitudes, about greatness, success, and winning. Time and time again, Trump has demonstrated his complete lack of knowledge on critical matters, meandering from position to position over the course of the election. When confronted about these frequent reversals, Trump lies in a manner more brazen and shameless than anything politics has ever seen.



Millions of people across the country are feeling despondent. Their hours have been cut, wages slashed, jobs even shipped overseas. But Donald Trump doesn’t have a plan to fix that. He has a plan to exploit that.



Donald Trump is a threat to the survival of the Republic. His authoritarian tendencies and flirtations with fascism are unparalleled in the history of our democracy. He hopes to divide us by race, by class, and by religion, instilling enough fear and anxiety to propel himself to the White House. He is looking to to pit neighbor against neighbor, friend against friend, American against American. We will not stand for this vitriolic rhetoric that is poisoning our country and our children.



President Reagan called on us to maintain this, our shining city on a hill. He called on us to maintain freedom abroad by keeping a strong presence in the world. He called on us to maintain liberty at home by upholding the democratic process and respecting our opponents. He called on us to maintain decency in our hearts by loving our neighbor. He would be ashamed of Donald Trump. We are too.



This fall, we will instead focus our efforts on reclaiming the Republican Party from those who have done it considerable harm, campaigning for candidates who will uphold the conservative principles that have defined the Republican Party for generations. We will work to ensure both chambers of Congress remain in Republican hands, continuing to protect against executive overreach regardless of who wins the election this November.



We call on our party’s elected leaders to renounce their support of Donald Trump, and urge our fellow College Republicans to join us in condemning and withholding their endorsement from this dangerous man. The conservative movement in America should not and will not go quietly into the night. A longtime student of American democracy, Alexis de Tocqueville once said, “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”



De Tocqueville believed in the United States. Americans are a decent people. We work hard, protect our own, and look out for one another in times of need, regardless of the color of our skin, the God we worship, or our party registration. Donald Trump may not believe in that America, but we do. And that America will never cease to be great.



The Harvard Republican Club
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Well this letter fairly well backs up what I said earlier that Trump was a liberal and not a conservative. Can anyone provide a date when this letter was written. If it was recently written it's a little late. Let's not forget you pretty much have to be a lawyer affirmed with Harvard or Yale connections to become president of the United States of America.

Where was this society when we didn't have a republican candidate last time or the time before that. McCain, Romney, both big government profs that would have continued the distraction of the "republic" the mentioned. It's sad Rand Paul and Gary Johnson were the 2 closest people we had too conservatives.

It's really sad that it takes a college society to write a letter for some people put stock in when they refuse to look at anything else.

"Millions of people across the country are feeling despondent. Their hours have been cut, wages slashed, jobs even shipped overseas. But Donald Trump doesn’t have a plan to fix that. He has a plan to exploit that."

He does have a plan to fix this btw. It's called making us a manufacturing country and stoping outsourcing. Withdrawing from treaties that appear to have very little benefit for America or dramatically favor the other countries they are made with. Will it hurt to start with. Sure. Going to suck actually. But it's not like it's something we can't or haven't done in the past. We have always been a manufacturing exporting country. It wasn't until the late 60's when that somehow became unfair to the rest of the world. Well who cares if it's unfair to the rest of the world. Now it has become unfair to us and do you see the people who took our place as manufactures saying. Ok we understand and will do something to stop manufacturing so much stuff so you can have a piece of the pie again. NO! That would be stupid, terrible business, and very poor towards your countries GDP. So it's time we help ourselves.


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Make us a manufacturing country, Trump!

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Lmao.

Something something now when it's pointed out he's bad he's suddenly a liberal too.

Lollllll.
 
As to the khan family gold star mother statement. Is she a member of the group? If she is she is clearly violated one of their policy's.
Since some will only read liberal media I found a NYT article on it

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/0...d-star-mother-heres-what-that-means.html?_r=0

As to the fact that she and her family are using their dead son as a political token, where were they when Obama withdrew from Iraq? Or when he started sending troops back over there? They were silent. This silence speaks volumes to me. They are using him as a way to push their agenda. Is he a hero to me? YES. Any American that is willing to put their life on the line in service to their country is a hero. Do his parents deserve respect? Yes. Does their actions of using their dead son as a political token deserve to get a pass? No. We all have to be held responsible for the actions we make. If they had started this right after they lost their son they would have a lot more credibility in my eyes. But they go mainstream during a presidential election. Well that tells me they may have other motives. I am sorry for the sacrifices that the Khan family made. But I am not sorry for them getting spotlighted in the media and their motives questioned. That was their choice and now we have to wait for the chips to fall where they may.


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nevada said:
you will need to come up with a much better source before I can even begin to accept what you are saying.

snopes is worse than wiki.
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You realize they just compiled all those stories, they didn't magically create them.

Maybe you don't, I guess I don't care.
 
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