oljedi11950
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^ What [MENTION=120701]Cymon[/MENTION] said ! Rides rough what ? Saying it rides like a truck wow ! Hmmm can you say test drive ?
Another Bilstein 5100 question
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calcrc
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CactusHugr get what I have in my sig. and put the front coils at the 2nd setting for the front. It will cost you around 1.5K $ installed (4 OME coils and 4 Struts
Bilsteins ). -PS : I did not need UCA's - You will see/feel the difference the first few days and you will have a nice lift. Also get Airlift 1000 just for shitz and giggles its only 100$ and they ARE worth every $ !
Stop crying about the stock suspension, some like it some don't. Same as the cheapass tires they put on stock.... First thing you do when you get a new car/truck is change the tires then suspension if it's a truck.
Good luck G.
Bilsteins ). -PS : I did not need UCA's - You will see/feel the difference the first few days and you will have a nice lift. Also get Airlift 1000 just for shitz and giggles its only 100$ and they ARE worth every $ !
Stop crying about the stock suspension, some like it some don't. Same as the cheapass tires they put on stock.... First thing you do when you get a new car/truck is change the tires then suspension if it's a truck.
Good luck G.
T4RGold
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I'm not interested in pre-loading any springs for any reason and I fail to understand why even the $4,000 suspension systems for these trucks simply preload the springs instead of offering different height options. I really, really don't get this.
I also didn't realize before dropping $40K on this thing that it rides as rough as my Jeep WJ does on the road... which defeats about 70% of the reason I bought the d*** thing... So, this makes me almost positive that preloading springs up front is simply a bad idea for the type of ride I'm after...
I bought - and quickly sold - a 2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4 and loved the way it handled and drove both on and off road - the washboards were nothing for that truck (major difference from the solid axles I've been used to all my adult life), and it was very, VERY nice and smooth on road... just so happens I couldn't sit for more than 20 minutes in the driver seat before my herniated discs began flaring up and my legs went numb... 4 runner was the next best option for my needs.
So, I'm after that same cushy and compliant ride quality of the Tacoma, and I think with the KDSS system on this thing, that cornering won't be such an issue given it helps reduce body roll already, and I don't drive like an a$$hole in the city anyways.
All this being said, what shocks are out there, minus the thousand dollar ones, that offer a more compliant and soft ride? Perhaps the BP51 shocks maybe with the 2" lift springs, and maybe a quarter inch trim spacer or something? I guess I'm after the smooth Baja type suspension without going quite to a full 3" in height.
So - any descriptive feedback on the actual ride (soft/hard, smooth/rough, truck-like or Cadillac-like) with the 5100 and OME springs is GREATLY appreciated. I have really liked my OME springs in the past, just not sure about the shocks and I'm not dropping $3500 on some springs and shocks for this DD just yet.
Thank you!![/QUOTE]
Interesting! I had a totally (180 degrees) different experience with my stock 2016 TE. The ride was as soft as a circa 1970's Cadillac. I don't think you're going to get anything softer than the stock springs, shocks and struts. Good luck.
I also didn't realize before dropping $40K on this thing that it rides as rough as my Jeep WJ does on the road... which defeats about 70% of the reason I bought the d*** thing... So, this makes me almost positive that preloading springs up front is simply a bad idea for the type of ride I'm after...
I bought - and quickly sold - a 2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4 and loved the way it handled and drove both on and off road - the washboards were nothing for that truck (major difference from the solid axles I've been used to all my adult life), and it was very, VERY nice and smooth on road... just so happens I couldn't sit for more than 20 minutes in the driver seat before my herniated discs began flaring up and my legs went numb... 4 runner was the next best option for my needs.
So, I'm after that same cushy and compliant ride quality of the Tacoma, and I think with the KDSS system on this thing, that cornering won't be such an issue given it helps reduce body roll already, and I don't drive like an a$$hole in the city anyways.
All this being said, what shocks are out there, minus the thousand dollar ones, that offer a more compliant and soft ride? Perhaps the BP51 shocks maybe with the 2" lift springs, and maybe a quarter inch trim spacer or something? I guess I'm after the smooth Baja type suspension without going quite to a full 3" in height.
So - any descriptive feedback on the actual ride (soft/hard, smooth/rough, truck-like or Cadillac-like) with the 5100 and OME springs is GREATLY appreciated. I have really liked my OME springs in the past, just not sure about the shocks and I'm not dropping $3500 on some springs and shocks for this DD just yet.
Thank you!![/QUOTE]
Interesting! I had a totally (180 degrees) different experience with my stock 2016 TE. The ride was as soft as a circa 1970's Cadillac. I don't think you're going to get anything softer than the stock springs, shocks and struts. Good luck.
T4RGold
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Interesting! I had a totally (180 degrees) different experience with my stock 2016 TE. The ride was as soft as a circa 1970's Cadillac. I don't think you're going to get anything softer than the stock springs, shocks and struts. Good luck.
CoolMax
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So...it definitely rides like a truck, probably even more so because I have more spring than I need (in anticipation of upcoming mods.)
The only thing that really annoys me in city driving is going over speed bumps, where the rear slams down a little too hard, even if I crawl over it.
If anything, it's more in its element off-roading at speed over bumps, ruts, & washboards.
Hope this helps...
toku58
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OME Makes a trim spacer for the rear. That's something that you should look at if you have the Taco lean on your runner.:biggrin1:
https://wheelersoffroad.com/product...-205552/old-man-emu-150pr10-rear-trim-packer/
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Well I have my 5100's and cornfed spacer on order guess I'll see how it looks after install.
Simpleman74
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Ran that for almost 2 years it was great
toku58
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That's the usual set up. But the thing that may become an issue is the short stock shocks in the rear. You may want to consider the rear bilstiens also.
Gotcha, I would get the backs eventually I'm just trying to figure out the cheapest way to get it lifted enough for tires since they are the big expense. Then I'll go upper control arms and upgraded the front and rear suspension further.
Yoderguy
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Save up $350 for a proper set of rear spring and some 5100's. Buy once, cry once.
After reading tons of info on the 5100s, I'm a bit paranoid about the install. I read some people had the circlip ring fail on them. A lot of what I read on various forums did not or wasn't able to confirm if it was due to user error during installation. Is there a sure way to confirm it's installed correctly? The ring appears to be flush inside the groove and I can move it freely in both directions. Spring perch is not upside down. Anything else to check for?
stphnman20
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Installed lift. Before and after. Bilstein all 4, front set at 0 with 884 and sway-a-way 1.5 in the rear. [MENTION=134037]singletrackftw[/MENTION]
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singletrackftw
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Installed lift. Before and after. Bilstein all 4, front set at 0 with 884 and sway-a-way 1.5 in the rear. [MENTION=134037]singletrackftw[/MENTION]
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stphnman20
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lol. i'm following you.
Bumbo
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I would venture to guess user error... its rarely a materials issue.
They sell so many of these shocks that if it was a design issue you would know about it already.
Well I got it installed today and drove it for roughly 5 miles afterwards, driving over speed bumps, potholes, getting hard on the brakes and swerving to make sure everything was intact. No weird noises or any issues so far so I'm assuming I'm good since I read that it failures usually occur within a couple miles of driving.
I was freaking out about the alignment with stock UCAs @ 2.5 so just set to 1.75 to see if I would have room. Got the alignment done today with surprising numbers. Listed below and on another thread earlier.
I think my stock UCAs will have plenty of room to get decent numbers at 2.5.
I set as much caster as possible when doing the lift so i assume he didn't have to do much as THEY DIDN'T CHARGE me!!! Made my day.
Driver/Passenger
Caster: 3.6/4.2
Camber: .6/.5
Toe: .07/.08
Total toe: .15
