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RunninInGA
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Thefishguy77
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Note how all the gun violence capitals have tough gun laws. Hummmm?????
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RunninInGA
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And high concentrations of certain demographics.
Thefishguy77
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You meant liberal democratic voters right. [emoji3]
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RunninInGA
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If the weave fits.
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ndcent
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Classy.
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I am sure some are cherry picked. Same as stats for gun control are cherry picked. And sometime it's also the most recent stats available. Agencies have been known to wait several years to release certain stats
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Here's some more info for you. A lot of it is taken directly from the CDC report Obama asked to be conducted in 2010; but when the report found this info, which was exactly the opposite of what he was HOPING FOR- he didn't publicize it or try to get the info out.
This first site has many tabs you can click on to review different criteria/data related to guns and crime. I posted the link directly to guns/crime in other countries as that is what you specifically discussed in your post above. Feel free to look through the other data points/categories on the site. Lot's there.
Gun Facts | Gun Control and Crime in non-US Countries
Guns in America | Facts and statistics about firearms in the USA
How are guns being used by citizens in America each year?
31,672 guns used in homicide + accident + suicide (1) VS. 2.5 Million guns used in self defense (2)
Every year, guns are used over 80x more often to protect a life than to take one!*
270 Million= APPROX. # OF CIVILIAN FIREARMS IN AMERICA (3)
200,000= TIMES A YEAR WOMEN USE A GUN TO DEFEND AGAINST SEXUAL ABUSE (4)
3/5 POLLED FELONS SAY THEY WON’T MESS WITH AN ARMED VICTIM (5)
Gun Ownership Vs Crime an international perspective:
Highest Gun Ownership Rate PER 100 RESIDENTS (6)
88.8
USA
54.8
YEMEN
45.7
SWITZERLAND
45.3
FINLAND
Highest Intentional
Homicide Rate
PER 100,000 RESIDENTS (7)
91.6
HONDURAS
69.2
EL SALVADOR
56.9
CÔTE D'IVOIRE
52.2
JAMAICA
Here's the USA for a reference point:
4.8
USA
A recent study published in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy concluded that there is a negative correlation between gun ownership and violent crime in countries internationally (more guns = less crime).
Nations with strict gun control laws have substantially higher murder rates than those who do not in general. In fact, the 9 European nations with the lowest gun ownership rate have a combined murder rate 3x's that of the 9 European nations with the highest gun ownership rate! (8)
UNITED KINGDOM CASE STUDY
“Most violent country in EU” (9)
POSSESSION OF HANDGUNS IS ILLEGAL
2,034 VIOLENT CRIMES PER 100,000 PEOPLE IN UK** (9)
vs
466 VIOLENT CRIMES PER 100,000 PEOPLE IN USA (9)
In the decade following the Labor party's election and banning of handguns in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77% to 1.2 million in '07- or more than 2 attacks every minute! (9)
Kitchen knives are being used in as many as half of all stabbings in the United Kingdom and has prompted a group of doctors to call for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives. (1)0
Concealed Carry in America
An analysis of the FBI crime statistics found that states that adopted
concealed carry laws REDUCED: (11)
8.5%
Murders
5%
Rapes
7%
Aggravated Assaults
3%
Robberies
With just one exception, every public mass shooting in the USA since 1950 has taken place where citizens are banned from carrying guns. Despite strict gun regulations, Europe has had 3 of the worst 6 school shootings. (1)2
POLICE
794,300= total police officers (13)
11% error rate (14)
14.3= avg. deaths of a shooting rampage stopped by police (15)
606= criminals killed each year (16)
ARMED CITIZEN
80,000,000= gun owning citizens (17)
2%= error rate (14)
2.3= avg. deaths of a shooting rampage stopped by a citizen (15)
1,527= criminals killed each year (16)
In 1982, Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate subsequently dropped 89% in Kennesaw, compared to just 10.4% drop in Georgia as a whole. (18)
Today, the violent crime rate in Kennesaw is still 85% lowerthan Georgia's or the national average. (19)
89% Drop IN BURGLARIES AFTER MANDATORY GUN LAW
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* Based upon Kleck & Gertz estimates of 2.5 million defensive gun uses per year (see source #2). A similar study in 1994 under President Clinton (Source) found this number to be 1.5 million, which would result in guns being used over 47x more often to defend a life than to take one.
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, about 436,000 crimes were committed with a firearm in 2008 (Source). This would mean guns are used 5.7 or 3.4 times (using Kleck or Clinton respectively) more often to defend against a crime than to commit one.
** Comparing violent crime between two countries can sometimes be difficult as each nation defines it differently.
1. 2010 CDC Report. FastStats - Injuries
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2. Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz, "Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense With a Gun," 86 The Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Northwestern University School of Law, 1 (Fall 1995): http://www.saf.org/lawreviews/kleckandgertz1.htm
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3. Guns in the United States ? Firearms, gun law and gun control
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4. Kleck and Gertz, "Armed Resistance to Crime," at 185
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5. U.S., Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice, "The Armed Criminal in America: A Survey of Incarcerated Felons," Research Report (July 1985): 27.
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6. http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/file...l-Arms-Survey-2007-Chapter-02-annexe-4-EN.pdf
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7. "Homicide Statistics 2012". UNODC.
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8. Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy (pp. 649-694). Volume 30, Number 2: http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
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Harvard Study: Gun Control Is Counterproductive :: The American Civil Rights Union
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9. UK is violent crime capital of Europe - Telegraph
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The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. | Daily Mail Online
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10. BBC News: BBC NEWS | Health | Doctors' kitchen knives ban call
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11. Wall Street Journal: More Guns, Less Violent Crime - WSJ
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12. USA Today: Opposing view: Guns in schools can save lives
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13. Bureau of Labor Statistics: Police and Detectives : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
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14. Newsweek Magazine: Nov 14, 1993: The Daily Beast
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15. The Examiner: The Latest on AXS
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16. Kleck, Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America, (1991):111-116, 148.
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17. National Rifle Association (NRA) Statistics ? Statistic Brain
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18. Gary Kleck, "Crime Control Through the Private Use of Armed Force," Social Problems 35 (February 1988):15
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19. City Rating: Kennesaw Crime Statistics: Georgia (GA) - CityRating.com
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Thefishguy77
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That took a bit of time gunslinger. Good post
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Gunslinger-13
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...-shot-dead-dc/
Julian Assange: Whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material and often very significant risks. As a 27 year-old, works for the DNC, was shot in the back, murdered just a few weeks ago for unknown reasons as he was walking down the street in Washington.
Reporter: That was just a robbery, I believe. Wasn’t it?
Julian Assange: No. There’s no finding. So… I’m suggesting that our sources take risks.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-r...email-inquiry/
Judicial Watch today released 10 pages of new State Department records that include an email sent by State Department spokesman Brock Johnson alerting Cheryl Mills, Hillary Clinton’s then Chief of Staff, that a “significant” Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request had been made for records showing the number of email accounts used by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...nt-for-favors/
“Important to take care of [name redacted],” Douglas Band, President Bill Clinton’s former right-hand man, wrote to Clinton aides Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, and Nora Toiv in an April 22, 2009, email.
“We have all had him on our radar,” Abedin responded. “Personnel has been sending him options.”
The subject line on the email read “A favor…”
“No wonder Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin hid emails from the American people, the courts and Congress,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement Tuesday.
Fitton asserted that Clinton and her aides violated ethics rules and may have broken the law.
“They show the Clinton Foundation, Clinton donors, and operatives worked with Hillary Clinton in potential violation of the law.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ame-nsa-agent/
TEL AVIV – An email sent through Hillary Clinton’s private sever betrayed the name of the National Security Agency’s representative to the State Department.
The email was contained in a batch of 296 pages of Clinton’s correspondence released on Tuesday in response to a Judicial Watch lawsuit. The emails, reviewed in full by Breitbart Jerusalem, include 44 messages that were not previously released.
One email was sent to Clinton at her private email address from aide Cheryl Mills, stating the name of the NSA rep.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/2012_...38/38/Y/M.html
While, in 2016, the documents may not be considered bombshell information, many alternative researchers and writers were condemned as tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists in 2012 for suggesting that the State Department and the Obama administration were complicit in and facilitating the arming of terrorists in Syria.
In addition, the documents are a direct contradiction to the testimony of a number of American officials, including Hillary Clinton herself, who claimed in sworn public testimony that the U.S. had no role in the arming and support of the Syrian “rebels” early on in the Syrian crisis.
For instance, Clinton herself claimed she had no knowledge of any such program when she was questioned by Senator Rand Paul at a Congressional hearing in 2013. The exchange went as follows:
RAND PAUL: It has been in news reports that ships have been leaving from Libya and they might have weapons. What I would like to know, is the annex that was close by [in Benghazi]. Were they involved with procuring, buying, selling, obtaining weapons, and were any of these weapons being transferred to other countries — to any countries, Turkey included.
HILLARY CLINTON: Senator, you’ll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex. I will see what information is available.
RAND PAUL: You’re saying you don’t know.
HILLARY CLINTON: I do not now. I don’t have any information on that.
Although the document did not specify that the United States was the responsible party regarding organizing the weapons shipments or that it had a direct role in facilitating them (the responsible party is redacted), it does make clear that the United States was aware of and monitoring these shipments. At the very least, this proves that Clinton’s testimony is false. At worst, it adds to the pile of evidence that the United States was not only a supporter but the architect of the Syrian crisis from day one.
http://allnewspipeline.com/Hillary_C...s_Released.php
Everything is starting to add up to her not being completely in her skull....
1. Wikileaks emails from aides talking about her being confused.
2. Wikileaks emails from aides talking about her having "nap time".
3. The "micro-seizures."
4. Being carryied up stairs.
5. Being supported.
6. The falls that are documented.
7. Some guy following her with what looks like an auto-injector everywhere
Mrs. Nova MD said 1-6 are prime symptoms of the type of dementia referenced in the link above and that auto-injector administration of valium and certain other benzos is considered a viable first line treatment for acute severe seizures.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/777268
Wife said that at a minimum she'd call that "moderate cognitive impairment" and more likely advanced depending on how the neurological exams came out.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...affer-was-email-leaker-offers-20k-reward-info
Julian Assange: Whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material and often very significant risks. As a 27 year-old, works for the DNC, was shot in the back, murdered just a few weeks ago for unknown reasons as he was walking down the street in Washington.
Reporter: That was just a robbery, I believe. Wasn’t it?
Julian Assange: No. There’s no finding. So… I’m suggesting that our sources take risks.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-r...email-inquiry/
Judicial Watch today released 10 pages of new State Department records that include an email sent by State Department spokesman Brock Johnson alerting Cheryl Mills, Hillary Clinton’s then Chief of Staff, that a “significant” Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request had been made for records showing the number of email accounts used by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...nt-for-favors/
“Important to take care of [name redacted],” Douglas Band, President Bill Clinton’s former right-hand man, wrote to Clinton aides Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, and Nora Toiv in an April 22, 2009, email.
“We have all had him on our radar,” Abedin responded. “Personnel has been sending him options.”
The subject line on the email read “A favor…”
“No wonder Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin hid emails from the American people, the courts and Congress,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement Tuesday.
Fitton asserted that Clinton and her aides violated ethics rules and may have broken the law.
“They show the Clinton Foundation, Clinton donors, and operatives worked with Hillary Clinton in potential violation of the law.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ame-nsa-agent/
TEL AVIV – An email sent through Hillary Clinton’s private sever betrayed the name of the National Security Agency’s representative to the State Department.
The email was contained in a batch of 296 pages of Clinton’s correspondence released on Tuesday in response to a Judicial Watch lawsuit. The emails, reviewed in full by Breitbart Jerusalem, include 44 messages that were not previously released.
One email was sent to Clinton at her private email address from aide Cheryl Mills, stating the name of the NSA rep.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/2012_...38/38/Y/M.html
While, in 2016, the documents may not be considered bombshell information, many alternative researchers and writers were condemned as tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists in 2012 for suggesting that the State Department and the Obama administration were complicit in and facilitating the arming of terrorists in Syria.
In addition, the documents are a direct contradiction to the testimony of a number of American officials, including Hillary Clinton herself, who claimed in sworn public testimony that the U.S. had no role in the arming and support of the Syrian “rebels” early on in the Syrian crisis.
For instance, Clinton herself claimed she had no knowledge of any such program when she was questioned by Senator Rand Paul at a Congressional hearing in 2013. The exchange went as follows:
RAND PAUL: It has been in news reports that ships have been leaving from Libya and they might have weapons. What I would like to know, is the annex that was close by [in Benghazi]. Were they involved with procuring, buying, selling, obtaining weapons, and were any of these weapons being transferred to other countries — to any countries, Turkey included.
HILLARY CLINTON: Senator, you’ll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex. I will see what information is available.
RAND PAUL: You’re saying you don’t know.
HILLARY CLINTON: I do not now. I don’t have any information on that.
Although the document did not specify that the United States was the responsible party regarding organizing the weapons shipments or that it had a direct role in facilitating them (the responsible party is redacted), it does make clear that the United States was aware of and monitoring these shipments. At the very least, this proves that Clinton’s testimony is false. At worst, it adds to the pile of evidence that the United States was not only a supporter but the architect of the Syrian crisis from day one.
http://allnewspipeline.com/Hillary_C...s_Released.php
Everything is starting to add up to her not being completely in her skull....
1. Wikileaks emails from aides talking about her being confused.
2. Wikileaks emails from aides talking about her having "nap time".
3. The "micro-seizures."
4. Being carryied up stairs.
5. Being supported.
6. The falls that are documented.
7. Some guy following her with what looks like an auto-injector everywhere
Mrs. Nova MD said 1-6 are prime symptoms of the type of dementia referenced in the link above and that auto-injector administration of valium and certain other benzos is considered a viable first line treatment for acute severe seizures.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/777268
Wife said that at a minimum she'd call that "moderate cognitive impairment" and more likely advanced depending on how the neurological exams came out.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...affer-was-email-leaker-offers-20k-reward-info
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RunninInGA
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Where is the CDC gun research??
So many of those articles mention it but I cannot find the actual research anywhere....
I was under the impression that the Dickey amendment essentially handcuffed the CDC from doing meaningful gun research since 1996, after their studies at that time came up with results that the NRA didn't like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_Amendment_(1996))
So many of those articles mention it but I cannot find the actual research anywhere....
I was under the impression that the Dickey amendment essentially handcuffed the CDC from doing meaningful gun research since 1996, after their studies at that time came up with results that the NRA didn't like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_Amendment_(1996))
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It's Obama.............come on homie get with the proggy!
Thefishguy77
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Obama did commission the cdc to do research. He also has them in charge of gun violence. Because apparently gun violence is a disease now. That study is hard to find but it is out there. It was intended to prove something and ended up disproving it. They are doing their best to keep it buried. I think it actually took a FOIA act originally to get the study available.
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