ARB bumper 2014+ release
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LawnDart
Senior Member
Happened twice on a Tacoma (Gen 3) and a 4Runner 5th Gen. Those tie down points are bolted in to the frame, and do not travel WITH the frame, so you're transferring a shearing force to the bolts.
For MOST recoveries they'll suffice if you don't have anything else, but a bumper recovery point transfers forces inline with the frame rails.
I get why ARB doesn't do them standard, because of crash requirements from the EU and AUS governments. And even ARB USA seems to get a little frustrated they're not standard equipment.
Again on most pulls the tie downs WILL work, but when you're stuck in the mud or need to double your pulling power, things get sketchy with the factory tie downs (they're called tie downs and not recovery points for a reason).
1engineer
Moderator
Please guys, quit trying to justify YOUR bumper purchase buy making disparaging remarks about a competitor's bumper.
*Nobody here knows - or does not know - what ARB testing is done
*Apparently most posters here have forgotten the material they may have learned in high school physics class.
*I have been involved in countless vehicle and machine recoveries in my 30 years. Very seldom are the pulls directly in line with the frame.
*Any recovery should have a weak link that will break or bend first and keep damage to a minimum.
Why you holier than thou off-roaders no doubt carry the perfect recovery gear with kinetic straps and snatch blocks and hi lift jacks and such, those usually only exist on your structured and planned trail rides. In real life there is wire rope and chains.
Several months ago I was yanked out of the mud (going to a job site) by a log skidder. I was stuck (in hated mud) and called my contact at the site. A few minutes later a skidder shows up, a guy jumps off, throws a choker chain through the "tie down" lol point on my 4Runner and hooks his winch cable to the chain. Why use a choker? Because his hook was TOO BIG to fit through my loop! He didn't even use his winch. He just dragged me to the other side. This is real world, not some fantasy trail ride trying to overcome obstacles multitudes of people have already conquered. I could see his face now if I had jumped out of the 4Runner saying "Wait! Here, use this special strap!"
ARB builds bumpers for these kind of people too. Think before you type.
This is another reason I don't mod my 4Runner for off road. Look at the pic below. What can you do to your 4Runner that could follow this vehicle? Nothing is right. No amount of mods can come close so I just leave it stock. In most cases, a stock 4Runner is going to go just as far down a muddy, just constructed logging or mining or construction road as a lifted one with $20K worth of mods is before getting stuck. Learning how to drive is much more important. Most of these guys are just impressed the 4Runner even makes it to the job lol.
For those of you who don't know what a skidder is, I have attached a stock pic:
*Nobody here knows - or does not know - what ARB testing is done
*Apparently most posters here have forgotten the material they may have learned in high school physics class.
*I have been involved in countless vehicle and machine recoveries in my 30 years. Very seldom are the pulls directly in line with the frame.
*Any recovery should have a weak link that will break or bend first and keep damage to a minimum.
Why you holier than thou off-roaders no doubt carry the perfect recovery gear with kinetic straps and snatch blocks and hi lift jacks and such, those usually only exist on your structured and planned trail rides. In real life there is wire rope and chains.
Several months ago I was yanked out of the mud (going to a job site) by a log skidder. I was stuck (in hated mud) and called my contact at the site. A few minutes later a skidder shows up, a guy jumps off, throws a choker chain through the "tie down" lol point on my 4Runner and hooks his winch cable to the chain. Why use a choker? Because his hook was TOO BIG to fit through my loop! He didn't even use his winch. He just dragged me to the other side. This is real world, not some fantasy trail ride trying to overcome obstacles multitudes of people have already conquered. I could see his face now if I had jumped out of the 4Runner saying "Wait! Here, use this special strap!"
ARB builds bumpers for these kind of people too. Think before you type.
This is another reason I don't mod my 4Runner for off road. Look at the pic below. What can you do to your 4Runner that could follow this vehicle? Nothing is right. No amount of mods can come close so I just leave it stock. In most cases, a stock 4Runner is going to go just as far down a muddy, just constructed logging or mining or construction road as a lifted one with $20K worth of mods is before getting stuck. Learning how to drive is much more important. Most of these guys are just impressed the 4Runner even makes it to the job lol.
For those of you who don't know what a skidder is, I have attached a stock pic:
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Jhalko
New member
Hmm, I'm thinking that skidder has something bigger than 285's on it... :cheers:
Jono.ful
New member
What do you supposed the rating on the choker chain was? In all likelihood it was probably a purpose built piece of significantly higher strength compared to what Joe Blow 4x4 enthusiast bought (or even could buy) at his local home depot. I'm a heavy industry guy too, and 99% of what you see on any job site here in terms of lifting or towing equipment is rated for weights several orders of magnitude higher than a tiny little 4R. I personally wouldn't bat an eye at a commercial logger throwing a chain on my truck around here, but I'd rather sit in the mud than risk a pull-out from some red neck with a piece of rusty 3/4" chain he pulled out of the back of his bogger.
1engineer
Moderator
Exactly. My point was the recovery loop on the 4Runner is the weak link in this case.
Racehoss
New member
Does not fit 16' runner
Crikeymike
Senior Member
Spotted in Oregon last month.
LawnDart
Senior Member
Spotted in Oregon last month.
Yep. That's it.
Haydenatx
Member
Press Release http://www.arbusa.com/Uploads/PDF/newProductAdvice/2016/4Runner_2014On_Summit.pdf
Price: $1591 bumper only
$1834 with lights and stuff
Available December 2016
Brandonium
Member
Sigh, still not a fan of the front half bumper chop look. Love the way the ARB bumper looks but as someone who cannot look away from small details the sight of what's left of the original bumper just bothers me.
Titanpat57
Senior Member
Spotted in Oregon last month.
We take...:biggrin1:
Crikeymike
Senior Member
They just released it today, like $1850!!!
Engineer
New member
Not my favorite bumper out there, it looks very robust but like i think the ARB bumpers look better on the Landcruisers which are a bit squarer looking the our 4runners.
but always happy for another option for the platform, more interested in the slug they call a snorkel when that gets released
but always happy for another option for the platform, more interested in the slug they call a snorkel when that gets released
I like it also but at 191lbs, before a winch, they can keep it. With a few great aluminum options, there is no way I'm mounting the Titanics anchor on my 4Runner.
tykkor
New member
There's not a bumper on the market that will increase ground clearance. The only thing that will do that is taller tires.
