Are Dueler A/T REVO with UNI-T AQII quiet
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Thai
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If you want some aggressive looking tires and quiet, then i would consider Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor. These tires are a stronger than REVOs (stronger tread & sidewall due to Kevlar layer and Durawall compound). The only negative that i hear about them is that they may decrease your fuel economy a tiny bit...but most AT tires do anyway (due to increase weight & rolling resistance). An added bonus is that this tire is one of the rare AT tire with "snowflake-on-mountain" symbol for severe winter traction (the other AT tire with this is BFG AT KO). You can read more about that symbol here: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21210.
You can read more about them and other tires thru this search:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/searc...=1060580&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending
Hope this helps.
You can read more about them and other tires thru this search:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/searc...=1060580&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending
Hope this helps.
Koz
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Do yourself a favor and look at ratings from real world owners for all the top tires and make a desision based on what your needs are.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORAT
Koz
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORAT
Koz
Consumer reports is your best bet for tire ratings. They do accurate repeatable test conditions for each tire they test. Peoples' perception of what they feel is a good tire is so subjective.
Take the Revo tire for instance. People on here love them, claim great snow traction.
Consumer reports said they did not do well in the snow.
If a person owned crap tires in the past, then replaced them with crap tires that were a improvement, they will think highly of the tire they just purchased. This is why a persons perception of a tire is so subjective.
Take the Revo tire for instance. People on here love them, claim great snow traction.
Consumer reports said they did not do well in the snow.
If a person owned crap tires in the past, then replaced them with crap tires that were a improvement, they will think highly of the tire they just purchased. This is why a persons perception of a tire is so subjective.
Thai
Elite Member
Bluto said:
Well, the Wrangler SA has Kevlar layer in it's tread (5x stronger than steel ply) and it's wall is made from Durawall compound. The Durawall compound was first seen with Goodyear MT/R (aka indestructible rock tire). The MT/R, in addition to Durawall, has 3 plies in it's sidewall. So, Wrangler SA sidewall (2-ply) is NOT as strong as MT/R, but it should hold up better than your average 2-ply sidewall (REVOs for instance).
Thai
Elite Member
007Runner said:
I agree with 007. Tirerack consumer survey can be unreliable because of buyer's bias. Most people will give their aftermarket tire a good grade...in part because they want to feel good about their purchase.
The one good thing about Consumer Reports is that it uses an independent tire evaluation protocol. So, i would rate this type of testing more accurate than TireRack's consumer survey.
And for snow traction, as i said before, i would trust the snowflake symbol over any potentially-bias consumer reviews.
Hank
New member
I just replaced my stock Dunlops last month w/48k miles on them. They were actually pretty decent tires for normal daily driving. Mine wore perfectly even eventhough I've only rotated them twice. There was enough tread left for another 8-10k miles and I'm a pretty aggressive driver. I normally run them @ 38psi front, 35psi rear. I have tried 41/38, but the ride was a bit firmer.
Now on to the Revos, I went with the 265/70/17s instead of 65s, so the size difference may have a slight influence on the ride characteristics. I've noticed that the ride is a bit more jitterish & stiffer compared to the Dunlops (comparable to running the Dunlops at 43-45psi). Cornering grip seems better though. Road noise is slightly higher, but not by much. After a month with the Revos, I can't really tell the difference anymore unless I swap the old Dunlops back on. My city mpg is down a bit, but highway mpg is about the same, but then again I did go with the 70s instead of 65s. The speedo is off slightly also, it shows 77mph when I'm doing 80. The proof: I was on the highway driving side by side with a new Civic with the digital speedo. Hers showed 80, mine 77. BTW: Bridgestone is having a special this month (til the end of Sept I think) and its $50 off a set of 4 Revos. Last month I (and a few others on this t4r.org) got the buy 3 get 1 free deal. I paid $662.xx out the door including the full warranty which replaces the tire with a new one if it gets damaged or worn, no proration at all.
Now on to the Revos, I went with the 265/70/17s instead of 65s, so the size difference may have a slight influence on the ride characteristics. I've noticed that the ride is a bit more jitterish & stiffer compared to the Dunlops (comparable to running the Dunlops at 43-45psi). Cornering grip seems better though. Road noise is slightly higher, but not by much. After a month with the Revos, I can't really tell the difference anymore unless I swap the old Dunlops back on. My city mpg is down a bit, but highway mpg is about the same, but then again I did go with the 70s instead of 65s. The speedo is off slightly also, it shows 77mph when I'm doing 80. The proof: I was on the highway driving side by side with a new Civic with the digital speedo. Hers showed 80, mine 77. BTW: Bridgestone is having a special this month (til the end of Sept I think) and its $50 off a set of 4 Revos. Last month I (and a few others on this t4r.org) got the buy 3 get 1 free deal. I paid $662.xx out the door including the full warranty which replaces the tire with a new one if it gets damaged or worn, no proration at all.
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007Runner said:
Totally agree. I take all the tirerack "reviews" with a grain of salt. usually you can read between the lines but sometimes it's hard. Everyone's driving is different, so everyone will have different perceptions of a tire.
Consumer reports thoroughly tests a tire but unfortunately it seems to do a test of SUV tires about once every two years, and even then seems to miss out many of the current competitors, or give an award to a tire you can't fnd anywhere. .
Koz
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Sorry Gents, I disagree. The Tirerack's surveys are based on thousands of real world owners not any subjective test. That would be like saying the rags can give a better review of the 4Runner then all of us who have real world experience/time with this vehicle. In a reviews/opinion there will be some people giving their personal opinion that may not be accurate but it will be averaged into the big picture. If you take a good look at the BIG picture, it is based on thousands of people and millions of miles. When an overwhelming amount of people tell that this is the best tire they have ever owned, this has to mean more then a comparison that has already been shown to be subjective, SORRY!
Here's my thinking; I read all the information (data, test results, personal opinion, etc.) I can get my hands on and then determine what product fits my needs and gives me the best value for MY money and then make a decision. This process has brought me together with you fine Gents and Ladies by buying a Toyota. Someone once told me Toyota is the best vehicle they have ever owned and this had a bigger effect on my decision, then some rag mag. I have found that real world personal experience is the best source of getting accurate information. You just have to know how to read all the information.
Koz
Here's my thinking; I read all the information (data, test results, personal opinion, etc.) I can get my hands on and then determine what product fits my needs and gives me the best value for MY money and then make a decision. This process has brought me together with you fine Gents and Ladies by buying a Toyota. Someone once told me Toyota is the best vehicle they have ever owned and this had a bigger effect on my decision, then some rag mag. I have found that real world personal experience is the best source of getting accurate information. You just have to know how to read all the information.
Koz
Koz said:
Say a person just purchased new tires. How do you compare it to a tire you just replaced? A persons perception of the tire is going to be subjective because the old tire was most likely worn, and it is not like your comparing the tires brand new side by side. How can you really judge a tire in this manner? At least consumer reports is using brand new tires on the same vehicle, in identical repeatable testing standards.
The validity of any test is only as accurate as the quality of the testing standards. This in itself makes consumer reports more accurate and reliable then someone on the tire rack replacing worn out tires.
boston_kevin
New member
Seems like just yesterday we went through this disussion about Revo's vs BFG AT vs Wrangler SA...
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21151
I agree that Kevlar is more puncture resistant than steel (SA vs Revo), but most people won't see that kind of torture (rock crawling, rock/root laiden trails, etc)... For street use, I'm not sure you would see much difference between the SA and Revos since owners of both tires seem to glow about their winter performance. The SA's would probably be a little bit quieter on road based on tread design.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21151
I agree that Kevlar is more puncture resistant than steel (SA vs Revo), but most people won't see that kind of torture (rock crawling, rock/root laiden trails, etc)... For street use, I'm not sure you would see much difference between the SA and Revos since owners of both tires seem to glow about their winter performance. The SA's would probably be a little bit quieter on road based on tread design.
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Koz
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boston_kevin said:
Nowhere in this thread did I recommend REVOs, I'm done with that. This thread started with a question about REVOs. I only suggested that they look at ratings from real world owners. For some reason whenever REVO is mention some people insist on making statements about how other tires are better for one reason or the other or how over 2000 owners, with 34 million miles experience with this tire are not credible. Whatever!
Koz
We have digressed from the question. I want to know from the forum members who have revos how much was the difference in road noise as compared to the Dunlop tires. If the difference is not much I will go ahead and buy them. I am afraid my wife might think of them as too noisy.
revos
I replaced my Dunlops at 1,000 mi. and now have 3,000 additional on my Revos. Possibly a tad noisier but in my experience thus far wouldn't use this as a criteria for getting/not getting the Revos. A great tire so far but wait till winter in the Rockies and I can report more on the Revos winter performance.
I replaced my Dunlops at 1,000 mi. and now have 3,000 additional on my Revos. Possibly a tad noisier but in my experience thus far wouldn't use this as a criteria for getting/not getting the Revos. A great tire so far but wait till winter in the Rockies and I can report more on the Revos winter performance.
