I'm thinking of doing this. Which Focals did you use? My truck is stock and all I wanted to do was change the speakers front and back, but maybe I only have to do the fronts then?
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I'm thinking of doing this. Which Focals did you use? My truck is stock and all I wanted to do was change the speakers front and back, but maybe I only have to do the fronts then?
I would give the fronts a shot and see how you like them. I went with the 960 TOYs. (I think that is the model name. I think it’s in my sig). They are the components they made that are plug and play. A bit more expensive but easy to install and sound great.
Thank you. Did you go with the Focal IC 960 TOY or Focal IS 960 TOY?
Nevermind - just looked at your Sig. Sorry and thanks!
Just got my rig back last night after the suspension and audio install at RSG here in Denver.
This is what I went with:
Stock Head Unit
Audison Bit-Ten DSP
Hertz HCP-5D amp
The amp feeds a set of
Hertz MPK-165.3 Pro in the dash and door. Each has their own channel and an active crossover.
The sub channel feeds a JL 10WT3-D4 in a custom box hidden in the rear passenger quarter panel storage area.
The stock rear door and hatch speakers remain on the rear channel of the stock head unit. I may replace them with aftermarket coaxials with a higher sensitivity at some point but I'm in no rush. My 18 month old can't tell the difference.
Verdict is that it sounds great. Drum and Bass sounds like you're in a club that just had their sound tweaked. Rock sounds clear and crisp.
I've noticed an occasional rattle on some punchier tracks (like stuff by the Gorillaz) and I'll crawl back there and figure out what it is and throw some sound deadening down when I have some time.
This is what I went with:
Stock Head Unit
Audison Bit-Ten DSP
Hertz HCP-5D amp
The amp feeds a set of
Hertz MPK-165.3 Pro in the dash and door. Each has their own channel and an active crossover.
The sub channel feeds a JL 10WT3-D4 in a custom box hidden in the rear passenger quarter panel storage area.
The stock rear door and hatch speakers remain on the rear channel of the stock head unit. I may replace them with aftermarket coaxials with a higher sensitivity at some point but I'm in no rush. My 18 month old can't tell the difference.
Verdict is that it sounds great. Drum and Bass sounds like you're in a club that just had their sound tweaked. Rock sounds clear and crisp.
I've noticed an occasional rattle on some punchier tracks (like stuff by the Gorillaz) and I'll crawl back there and figure out what it is and throw some sound deadening down when I have some time.
what to do?
Hey all, soo been reading through this thread an others on the site. i am looking to upgrade the sound in the 4runner, Currently have a 2018 with entune setup. I have some old gear from over the years of being an audiophile (not nearly as much so these days).
original Alpine PDX 4.100 (beast of an amp back in the day)
set of Soundstream SPL components (back when soundstream still wanted to be competitive...LOL) although im not opposed to putting something new in. and more leaning torwards new as these things are like 15 years old now....getting old sucks.
anyways, i was wanting to maintain the stock entune unit but im not so sure now. I was looking at the DSP route and wanting to get a good one is not the cheapest thing (400 and up). But one thing i have read and dont like is the fact that the stock entune will adjust the band depending on volume level so unless you adjust the volume level at the DSP and keep the entune at the tuned volume for the dsp it will scale the output levels.
so my debate is, keep the entune drop 4-800.00 on a DSP or just go for the Head unit.
what would you do?
btw, anyone know if the shortcut buttons on the entune radio bezel would be/could be maintained with aftermarket HU?
Kris
Hey all, soo been reading through this thread an others on the site. i am looking to upgrade the sound in the 4runner, Currently have a 2018 with entune setup. I have some old gear from over the years of being an audiophile (not nearly as much so these days).
original Alpine PDX 4.100 (beast of an amp back in the day)
set of Soundstream SPL components (back when soundstream still wanted to be competitive...LOL) although im not opposed to putting something new in. and more leaning torwards new as these things are like 15 years old now....getting old sucks.
anyways, i was wanting to maintain the stock entune unit but im not so sure now. I was looking at the DSP route and wanting to get a good one is not the cheapest thing (400 and up). But one thing i have read and dont like is the fact that the stock entune will adjust the band depending on volume level so unless you adjust the volume level at the DSP and keep the entune at the tuned volume for the dsp it will scale the output levels.
so my debate is, keep the entune drop 4-800.00 on a DSP or just go for the Head unit.
what would you do?
btw, anyone know if the shortcut buttons on the entune radio bezel would be/could be maintained with aftermarket HU?
Kris
I'm not sure it's a good option for everyone, but OEM Audio Plus offers a complete speaker package with amp and dsp. Actually they have 2 options. If someone is really handy at audio upgrades, they might want the fun of research and trial, but these systems takes the guesswork out of it. All plug and play, so easily reversible. It's designed just for the 4Runner and also has options for 2 and 3rd row options on the sub. Good luck with your decision!
http://oemaudioplus.com/toyota/4runner/
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I kept the stock head unit b/c my experience is that having an aftermarket head unit means you're car is going to get broken into. Maybe not right away, but it's gonna happen.
So, I added a DSP. I have not noticed the tuning change as I turn it up but I have only had the install a few days.
just realized i did not have post notifications turned on. didnt realize there were replies. thanks for the replies though all.
I did decide to go the new HU path here is what i ordered so far
Kenwood Excelon DNX893S
iDatalink Maestro ADS-MRR
Alpine SWR-10D2
Crutchfield did not have Hertz speakers but i will be going with
Hertz HSK 165 6.5
I didnt plan on getting a subwoofer yet but Crutchfield had a great deal on the Alpine TypeR 10" i couldnt pass up.
For now i will be running the hertz components up front and put the soundstream SPL components in the back all running off of the Alpine PDX 4.100 amp.
no plans to do the sub anytime soon, as i want to build a custom (as stealth as possible Box, which will take me some time) as long as the old alpine amp is still as nice as i remember i will leave it on the highs an mids and get something else for the subs. who knows.
will be sure to update the thread when all is done.
I did decide to go the new HU path here is what i ordered so far
Kenwood Excelon DNX893S
iDatalink Maestro ADS-MRR
Alpine SWR-10D2
Crutchfield did not have Hertz speakers but i will be going with
Hertz HSK 165 6.5
I didnt plan on getting a subwoofer yet but Crutchfield had a great deal on the Alpine TypeR 10" i couldnt pass up.
For now i will be running the hertz components up front and put the soundstream SPL components in the back all running off of the Alpine PDX 4.100 amp.
no plans to do the sub anytime soon, as i want to build a custom (as stealth as possible Box, which will take me some time) as long as the old alpine amp is still as nice as i remember i will leave it on the highs an mids and get something else for the subs. who knows.
will be sure to update the thread when all is done.
This looks so alien to me and I ****in love it. Newbie here, what is the purpose of you fiber glassing within the panels?
2018 sr5
Has anyone looked into revamping their sound system for the 2018 runner yet? Before, when I had my 2010 Sentra, I went full pioneer speakers,amp, sub, with an after market head unit and loved the upgrade from the inferior sounds. I did the upgrade through best buy, however with my runner this time around, I am interested in doing the who thing by myself. Will I need to look in a different direction as far as upgrading the runner sound system?
Has anyone looked into revamping their sound system for the 2018 runner yet? Before, when I had my 2010 Sentra, I went full pioneer speakers,amp, sub, with an after market head unit and loved the upgrade from the inferior sounds. I did the upgrade through best buy, however with my runner this time around, I am interested in doing the who thing by myself. Will I need to look in a different direction as far as upgrading the runner sound system?
2016 4Runner SR5
Senior Member
Keep the sub out of the way, no cargo space lost. No room to build a wood enclosure back there.
Louisiana Overland
New member
I am about to venture down this path.
What DSP are you using?
Does it have EQ capability?
roborob1969
Member
Tacotunes
I went the Tacotunes rout because I wanted to keep the factory HU -- this is all plug-n-play too!
The only thing I didn't get from tacotunes are the subs -- I'm using two 12" Kenwood subs in an enclosed box - nice and tight bass!
Sound? FREAKING AMAZING! I highly recommend the ReCurve Processor
I went the Tacotunes rout because I wanted to keep the factory HU -- this is all plug-n-play too!
- Dual Amp Kit
- Dual Amp Mounting Kit
- ReCurve Sound Processor
- Image Dynamics Speakers - Front - Rear & Hatch
The only thing I didn't get from tacotunes are the subs -- I'm using two 12" Kenwood subs in an enclosed box - nice and tight bass!
Sound? FREAKING AMAZING! I highly recommend the ReCurve Processor
I went with an Audison Bit Ten
It does have EQing but it's a set it and forget situation. I will take it back to RSG for some fine-tuning after a month or so of break in. Right now I want a tad less on the tweeters (i'm sensitive to high frequencies) and more on the mid-bass (I think they should be a bit punchier). The sub sounds terrific for a single ten.
Edit: You can purchase the DRC remote (also on the page I linked to) and that gives you two pre-set EQ set ups to select. I didn't think this was necessary although I will get a bass knob for the amp so I can lower the boom (see what I did there?) when my boy is in the car.
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Hey Gandalf, I am in the process of doing this right now. Soon as weather breaks around here i plan on going in on it. i just got my new HU, sub and all the connectors and adapters for the maestro setup. Got this stuff from crutchfield, prices were good plus the custom harness makes the HU install simple.
i was going to go with Hertz components, but stopped by my local car audio shop not expecting to get a deal, and walked away with a set of Focal flax components for well under any online price i have seen. i couldnt pass it up.
so i was orignally looking heavily to keep the factory entune, but the more i thought about buying the JL FiX86, and the TWK i would need for the sound i wanted, and to keep the flat signal i would have to adjust the volume at the DSP with a seperate volume switch. then would i regret spending the money on keeping the Entune. ANother member had posted what he went through and ultimately getting an aftermarket HU in the end. I decided to learn from his experience.
hoping to have the HU and all sound deadening installed next weekend weather permitting. then the focal's an amp shortly after. i plan on building a custom sub enclosure for the alpine R 10" (great deal at crutchfield right now on these, 80.00 off) but the sub will take a bit more time to get done.
So just the head unit change made a fairly considerable difference over stock in my opinion. Everything doesnt sound like its in mud anymore. You actually make changes to the EQ band and can hear the differences.
Im sure its not as good as an aftermarket DSP but the built in DSP in the kenwood seems to be pretty damn good! and sure i will mess with the DTA once the focals are installed.
hopefully sound deadening next week and amp an focals soon after.
Im sure its not as good as an aftermarket DSP but the built in DSP in the kenwood seems to be pretty damn good! and sure i will mess with the DTA once the focals are installed.
hopefully sound deadening next week and amp an focals soon after.
So ive gotten almost everything in for my build (they ordered the wrong focals for the fronts, hopefully have the right ones here next week).
So i did the sound skins pro sound deadening this weekend. And i have to say, im impressed on the midbass difference i noticed just by doing sound deadening with stock speakers. I mean its not amazing at all, you can only do so much with the stock speakers with magnets the size of earbuds. but it was noticable.
the only non stock thing im running right now is the kenwood excelon 893s HU. I kept the eq set at the same level before an after the sound skins.
now would i recommend everyone go out and do sound deadening on a stock setup? No, not at all. for 3 door kits i was able to do aproximately 90% inner shell and outer shell coverage on the front doors, and about 75% coverage innner and outer on the rear doors. so 240.00 of sound deadening. upgrade your speakers to something else in stead. but yeah i was suprised on the stock speakers.
hopefully i will have my full build well in swing by next weekend.
Kris
So i did the sound skins pro sound deadening this weekend. And i have to say, im impressed on the midbass difference i noticed just by doing sound deadening with stock speakers. I mean its not amazing at all, you can only do so much with the stock speakers with magnets the size of earbuds. but it was noticable.
the only non stock thing im running right now is the kenwood excelon 893s HU. I kept the eq set at the same level before an after the sound skins.
now would i recommend everyone go out and do sound deadening on a stock setup? No, not at all. for 3 door kits i was able to do aproximately 90% inner shell and outer shell coverage on the front doors, and about 75% coverage innner and outer on the rear doors. so 240.00 of sound deadening. upgrade your speakers to something else in stead. but yeah i was suprised on the stock speakers.
hopefully i will have my full build well in swing by next weekend.
Kris
If you can afford it, I would highly recommend an aftermarket head unit. You won't lose features (e.g., steering wheel controls, backup cam) as long as you buy the appropriate modules. Below is an image of what the signal looks like from 0-20 kHz on the stock headunit. Ideally, you would want to start with a flat signal. Notice the dropoff at the low frequencies (left side), that is the stock bass protection and you won't be able to recover that. One thing you can do if you really want to keep the stock headunit is get a DSP that has an onboard EQ so that you can flatten that signal. But honestly, with how cheap head units are these days it's better to get an aftermarket one and get a ton more features.
I know this is an old thread, but I’d appreciate some help on this.
I recently installed a JL Audio RD500/1, Audio Control LC2i, and a Boston Acoustics 10” G3 sub. Its disappointing to say the least. The bass roll off is maddening. I read posts like this before I installed the sub, but I had to hear it for myself.
Fooling with the JL Audio bass knob helps a little, but the bass sounds boomy most of the time.
I’m considering a 5 channel amp with a DSP. Im wondering if a DSP will allow me to expand the dB level at 20hz to even out the sound.
Any thoughts from anyone who has done this successfully (or unsuccessfully)?
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gm350reratliff
New member
I’m going to install an Alpine ILX-107 in my 5th gen and ditch that entune crap. I’ll probably do the same in my Tundra as well.
My question is about the dash kit. The OEM trim around the head unit is a dark metallic but the Scosche dash kit that was sent is silver. Has anyone found a good paint or wrap that matches the OEM trim? I think the silver dash kit looks like crap in there. I honestly wish they would’ve just made it generic unpainted black over the silver.
My question is about the dash kit. The OEM trim around the head unit is a dark metallic but the Scosche dash kit that was sent is silver. Has anyone found a good paint or wrap that matches the OEM trim? I think the silver dash kit looks like crap in there. I honestly wish they would’ve just made it generic unpainted black over the silver.
THe stock HU is most likely your issue, as volume is increased the EQ is changed rapidly to protect the crappy stock speakers. I have heard people having good luck using the JL Fix86 and JLtwk when connecting to the entune systems. what turned me away from that was the fact i could get an aftermarket HU and interface for nearly the price of the fix and twk. even when using the fix and twk you need to adjust the volume at the device and not the HU to keep your clean flat output.
