mjweber96
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I found a site that is very helpful for those of us that have not purchased yet. When I went to test drive they basically did everything stated. Did you guys run into the same?
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Buying Tips
Beat the Car Salesman
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LOL, I thought it was violent tread. "How to beat the hell out of salesman", is baseball bet included? I think that would be helpfull for you as consumer, immediate discount. But if he offers it for free, pay a penny, so you can't be charged with auto theft
If seriously, though nice link to have, thanks.
If seriously, though nice link to have, thanks.
krosno3
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mjweber96 said:
I used http://www.carbuyingtips.com/
It is great site and it helped me save some big $$$.. Besides it is really great feeling when dealer is trying to play some games with You and You are able to show him that he won't be able to screw You.
Here is a real tip on buying any car. First a successful salesman is an expert at sizing up people.
Why, if they are smart they won't spend a lot of time dealing with customers that will try to get
the lowest price. After all they are paid by commission which is part of the profit on the sale.
The more profit the more commission.
The dealership has a bottom line price they will sell for, not a penny less. They know this price,
you don't. This is where you are at a disadvantage. What they say, or the song and dance
they do has nothing at all to do with the price.
There is a huge turn over of car salesman, yet, some are there for years and make most of the sales.
It is the skill of the salesman(or woman) get the most money out of the customer and make the
customer think he made a great deal. This is a psychological game.
The large dealerships are very good at this game, that is why they are successful.
Sometimes the price of the car has little to do with the sale, it is the payments, length of lease
or maybe a small goodie added. If the salesman can make you think that $xxx per month is a
perfect fit and you bite, he just made an extra commission and you just paid another $1000
for the car. Remember it is a game to make money.
Today, most of the dealerships have fleet departments or internet departments and these folks just
give a price, take it or leave it. It is a competitive price, but not the lowest price. Some will negociate,
most will not.
If you choose to sell your own car then the role is reversed, how good a salesman you are is reflected
in the price you get and that is your commission. If you trade your car in, then you just gave away your
commisson, but you didn't have to make the sale.
And that's the way it is.
Cliff s
Why, if they are smart they won't spend a lot of time dealing with customers that will try to get
the lowest price. After all they are paid by commission which is part of the profit on the sale.
The more profit the more commission.
The dealership has a bottom line price they will sell for, not a penny less. They know this price,
you don't. This is where you are at a disadvantage. What they say, or the song and dance
they do has nothing at all to do with the price.
There is a huge turn over of car salesman, yet, some are there for years and make most of the sales.
It is the skill of the salesman(or woman) get the most money out of the customer and make the
customer think he made a great deal. This is a psychological game.
The large dealerships are very good at this game, that is why they are successful.
Sometimes the price of the car has little to do with the sale, it is the payments, length of lease
or maybe a small goodie added. If the salesman can make you think that $xxx per month is a
perfect fit and you bite, he just made an extra commission and you just paid another $1000
for the car. Remember it is a game to make money.
Today, most of the dealerships have fleet departments or internet departments and these folks just
give a price, take it or leave it. It is a competitive price, but not the lowest price. Some will negociate,
most will not.
If you choose to sell your own car then the role is reversed, how good a salesman you are is reflected
in the price you get and that is your commission. If you trade your car in, then you just gave away your
commisson, but you didn't have to make the sale.
And that's the way it is.
Cliff s
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Northof49
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You guys have GOT to rent the movie "Suckers." I swear to God that website was written while the guy was watching that movie lol. Funny tho, all websites and books of that nature are usually written by car salesmen.mjweber96 said:
Basically, the salesperson's job is to sell cars for as much as possible; the consumers job is to buy cars for as little as possible. You pay more, it's money out of your income. You pay less, it's money out of his/her income.......it's just another job afterall.
greasefingers
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Basically one no gets a Great deal. You simply pay less then the next person, if your good, but they will end up making lots of money on 99 % of all sales. Not many dealerships go out of business, due to being nice and selling vehicles at near Cost.
The line I hate to hear, “what will it take for you to buy this vehicle today”? Is this a really bad question or what? I want it free you F_cker.
A good deal is when you feel comfortable paying the price for the merchandise. Even if it’s a couple thousand dollars over what they may pay for it.
Motor vehicles are such bad investments. I wish I were not so addicted to them. Right
The line I hate to hear, “what will it take for you to buy this vehicle today”? Is this a really bad question or what? I want it free you F_cker.
A good deal is when you feel comfortable paying the price for the merchandise. Even if it’s a couple thousand dollars over what they may pay for it.
Motor vehicles are such bad investments. I wish I were not so addicted to them. Right
Northof49
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That is the hands-down the best way of looking at it.....knowing what a fair price is for you, hopefully it is also reasonable for the selling party as well and you can both walk away with a "good deal."greasefingers said:
Business exist to make money whether they're selling food, clothing, cars or whatever. On a percentage basis, cars are actually one of the best deals out there even at full sticker. Compare roughly 10% markup on a new vehicles (excluding the real high-end stuff) with the easy 100% that's in shoes for example....yet no one spends a month grinding down 20 different Foot Lockers for the best deal on a pair of Nikes because it's only $100 right?
krosno3
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4Runner was my first car that i bought brand new from a dealer. I spent around 2 weeks looking for a best price. If I didn't study all info from http://www.carbuyingtips.com/ I'm sure I would pay more. It took me 2 weeks to find price I was willing to pay and i can only say that none of other dealers was able to much it. I think that website is useful. So far it is the only place I found that explains some things about whole buying process and gives You some ideas how to deal with salesman, find rebates and other stuff.....
