Best speculation of a 2023 6th generation I have seen
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Blackwatch
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That's a deal breaker for me.
Sad to see all the Youtubers trying to suck Toyota's d!ck and brag this up so they keep getting invited to their reveals.
TheSpinDoctor
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thatoneguy
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2024 Toyota Land Cruiser Is Cool, Affordable, Honors the Original
Impressive. Moving away from the bloated $$$ full-size Land Cruiser in the US, when they barely sold any of those here, was a smart call. This is more right-sized for offroading, and that 2.4L turbo hybrid might pull 25-30mpg, while it pulls big torque numbers down low. I appreciate them throwing third row seating right where it belongs--in the trash can.
Starting price is "teased at the mid $50k range". That's $32,000 cheaper than the old Land Cruiser, after years of big inflation. Smart move, a much more accessible vehicle. It honestly looks somewhat similar in mission and size to a 4Runner, so it'll be interesting to see... what the new 4Runner on the TNGA-F platform is going to look like, and how it differentiates itself from this Land Cruiser. I would like for the next gen 4Runner to lean into offroading a little more, shorten up the length, and improve the approach and departure angles a little.
Impressive. Moving away from the bloated $$$ full-size Land Cruiser in the US, when they barely sold any of those here, was a smart call. This is more right-sized for offroading, and that 2.4L turbo hybrid might pull 25-30mpg, while it pulls big torque numbers down low. I appreciate them throwing third row seating right where it belongs--in the trash can.
Starting price is "teased at the mid $50k range". That's $32,000 cheaper than the old Land Cruiser, after years of big inflation. Smart move, a much more accessible vehicle. It honestly looks somewhat similar in mission and size to a 4Runner, so it'll be interesting to see... what the new 4Runner on the TNGA-F platform is going to look like, and how it differentiates itself from this Land Cruiser. I would like for the next gen 4Runner to lean into offroading a little more, shorten up the length, and improve the approach and departure angles a little.
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thatoneguy
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From the Car and Driver article: "Toyota is mum about any new 4Runner specifics, except to say it's not going anywhere".
The 4Runner sells very strongly in the US. They'd be silly to abandon it given that factory offroaders are a license to print money these days.
tokyo rebuilt
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I cannot believe how bad that interior is on the 1958 trim. And it’s supposed to start at 55k? Yikes.
I'm speculating here, but I would imagine that the base Lexus GX with the hybrid comes in 10k higher than the 1958. If the MPG on the hybrid comes in at 22-23, that might be compelling enough for someone interested in the utilitarian offering of the 1958.
BUT, if you can get that engine in a 4Runner?
I think they're going to have to make the 4Runner more compact than the GX/Landcruiser offering, to differentiate it.
Does the 4Runner still come out of Tahara?
BUT, if you can get that engine in a 4Runner?
I think they're going to have to make the 4Runner more compact than the GX/Landcruiser offering, to differentiate it.
Does the 4Runner still come out of Tahara?
TexasFunRunner
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I'm having a hard time understanding how Toyota is positioning the Land Cruiser, it slots above the 4Runner to be the premium BOF for Toyota yet there is no mention of X-REAS or any Adaptive Suspension, either basic or premium.
Did I miss it among the multitude of reviews?
Did I miss it among the multitude of reviews?
You’ll be able to get the iForce Max in the 4Runner, but it’s likely only available in the top trim(s) which will overlap or be very close to overlapping with the base price of the LC250 1958 trim. You’ll have the choice of a loaded 4Runner or a base model LC250 for about the same price.
Anyone seen a cargo volume number listed anywhere? At least they are not messing around with a 3rd row (albeit I kind of wish it had one).
I saw an estimated mpg number called out at 25. It may be hard to believe, but the hybrid MAX 2.4 is rated for 26 combined in the Grand Highlander, so maybe it is possible.
Agree on if that power train is an option on a higher trim 4runner which is likely given the Tacoma trims.
4Runner currently is built in Tahara, but a lot of us think it may move to same factory as the Tacoma upcoming.
Nope. It has a front sway bar disconnect available to help with articulation, but no KDSS or anything similar.
It could be interesting to see if Toyota ultimately tweaks equipment and trims, but that is probably like a 2026 or 2027 thing I imagine.
balong48
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Toyotas own website says combined 27MPG. I have my doubts.
“ Land Cruiser’s new powertrain combines hybrid tech with the power of a turbo 4-cylinder engine. This hybrid engine generates an electrifying 465 lb.-ft. of torque and a manufacturer-estimated 27 combined mpg rating * to bring you confidence to cover even more ground.”
“ Land Cruiser’s new powertrain combines hybrid tech with the power of a turbo 4-cylinder engine. This hybrid engine generates an electrifying 465 lb.-ft. of torque and a manufacturer-estimated 27 combined mpg rating * to bring you confidence to cover even more ground.”
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TexasFunRunner
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Did anyone else read more about the "vehicle stability control" (VSC), I've googled it and no reviews discuss it.
Has Toyota or Lexus used this on any other models under different names, akin to "Rollover Control" or something?
All Land Cruisers are equipped with a full-time four-wheel drive system with a center locking differential and an electronically controlled two-speed transfer case with high/low range. The system also features vehicle stability control (VSC) and an automatic limited-slip differential (Auto LSD). An electronic locking rear differential is standard on all Land Cruisers and can help split power 50/50 to the rear wheels for improved traction control on rough terrain.
Has Toyota or Lexus used this on any other models under different names, akin to "Rollover Control" or something?
All Land Cruisers are equipped with a full-time four-wheel drive system with a center locking differential and an electronically controlled two-speed transfer case with high/low range. The system also features vehicle stability control (VSC) and an automatic limited-slip differential (Auto LSD). An electronic locking rear differential is standard on all Land Cruisers and can help split power 50/50 to the rear wheels for improved traction control on rough terrain.
