mattleegee
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what psi is everyone running?
BFG All-Terrain T/A KO2 went on sale today
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32 psi here
so i just got back from about a 1100 mile trip with these new tires in 35-12.50-18. i still dont have my 2015 runner which is what i planned on taking on this trip, so i put tires on my Tundra and went.
very little if any road noise from 35-103mph. i was pretty bummed with the amount of snow in the rockies so no hard pack snow testing. on my way from Ouray to Silverton i stopped and headed up FSR 825.the most snow i got into was maybe 4". tires seem to work really well in the snow and a little bit of mud.
i think i may have gained 1-2mpg over my old tires of about the same size but im in a gas powered truck so i try not to pay too much attention to mpg's.
anyways.. im pretty happy with these
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very little if any road noise from 35-103mph. i was pretty bummed with the amount of snow in the rockies so no hard pack snow testing. on my way from Ouray to Silverton i stopped and headed up FSR 825.the most snow i got into was maybe 4". tires seem to work really well in the snow and a little bit of mud.
i think i may have gained 1-2mpg over my old tires of about the same size but im in a gas powered truck so i try not to pay too much attention to mpg's.
anyways.. im pretty happy with these
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03_4x4Runner
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I do not agree with you at all. I have run many sets of the old KO and they all were great. I live in the desert so I do not know what ice, snow and mud are.
for my purposes they are great. They are an all terrain, why would you think they would work good in mud? Going to order my new KO2 tires today or tomorrow. They are about the same price as other tires I have looked at with 3 ply sidewalls.
The Waco Kid
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Not trying to be a smart ass or pick on you, but I find this sentence out of context to be pretty humorous...:bounce:
Carry on!
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nevada
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agreed. I have used mine in all terrains(imagine that) and they have worked VERY well. ive gone places I should NOT have been able to go. in short, they have amazed me at times, what they allow me to do.
snow, ice, mud whatever, they just WORK.
So what are they good at? Dry dirt roads?:guitar2: Im not trying to dissuade anyone from buying their tire of choice but there are IMO much better AT tires that actually do well on all terrains. I had 2 sets of KO's before my eyes were opened to all the better tires out there. Duratracs are great but take a pretty big mpg hit and one of the best non winter specific tire I've had. SilentArmors are good in snow, quiet and get good mpg, Cooper ST Maxx are really good but a bit heavy. My main concerns though are snow/ice then off-road capability then mpg so opinions will of course differ.
veloindy
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There's plenty of side by side comparisons on the interweb if you care to google. This picture speaks volumes. You can also see the difference in tread pattern.
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That tells me they have a harder rubber compound which means they have a longer tread life but are probably even worse on ice. Anyways...enjoy the ko2's
Benski
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My last set of TA KO's lasted over 105k miles!
When I bought my T4R it needed new tires and so I did some research on tires. I got a 4 wheel alignment and ordered a new set of 265/70R 16 BFG ATs in D load. I ran them on the beaches of the Outer Banks and up in the snow of New England. They performed well anywhere I took them. I never had any problems with them, not even 1 flat tire! I checked the tire pressure monthly and rotated them about every 7,500 miles. They lasted over 105k miles and still hadn't reached the wear indicators on the tread! I replaced them with another set of 265/75 R16 E load BFG ATs. I got a great deal on them or I would have ordered the same ones as the first set. I think they look good, handle well, are quiet to run, and wear like iron. Sure they cost a bit but look at how long they last. I'm not going to change a good thing. I really like the look of the new TA KO2s and plan on getting them if this set ever wears out! They have 31k miles on them right now and are wearing nicely.
When I bought my T4R it needed new tires and so I did some research on tires. I got a 4 wheel alignment and ordered a new set of 265/70R 16 BFG ATs in D load. I ran them on the beaches of the Outer Banks and up in the snow of New England. They performed well anywhere I took them. I never had any problems with them, not even 1 flat tire! I checked the tire pressure monthly and rotated them about every 7,500 miles. They lasted over 105k miles and still hadn't reached the wear indicators on the tread! I replaced them with another set of 265/75 R16 E load BFG ATs. I got a great deal on them or I would have ordered the same ones as the first set. I think they look good, handle well, are quiet to run, and wear like iron. Sure they cost a bit but look at how long they last. I'm not going to change a good thing. I really like the look of the new TA KO2s and plan on getting them if this set ever wears out! They have 31k miles on them right now and are wearing nicely.
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ICE?
what tire works good on ice? unless its studded im guessing nothing works all that well on ice:flypig:
i work in the oil fields of Prudhoe Bay AK. we deal with ice 8-9 mos a year, i drive on ice roads on the ocean and fresh water, all the raods are snow packed and our parking lots are polished so the snow dosent stick or build up (its always windy). our fleet of f-150-350's run GY Duratracs and some Michelin and Toyos. the f550's are all on the new Toyos.
when its icy slick not one tire works better than the other, i can slide a f-150 on duratracs as well as i can a loaded 550 on toyos.
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Definitely disagree. Of course you can make any tire slide and any tire will slide in the right conditions, but some less than others and some a lot less than others. I drive about 70k miles a year go through a set and a half of tires a year (oilfield as well) and I guarantee duratracs or winter tires or a handful of other AT tires will have more traction on ice than those BFG's.
If you would like a list of tires I have tried over recent years.
Firestone Destination AT
Firestone Transforce AT
2x Goodyear Wrangler SA - favorite overall for work truck
2x Goodyear Duratrac - on my 3rd set as of yesterday
2x BFG KO - 1 on personal vehicle 1 on work truck, lasted forever, hated them forever.
Michelin AT2
Cooper ST - brief stint w/ these, seemed pretty good
probably a couple others
nevada
Senior Member
I would have to disagree there, based on tread design alone. smaller thread blocks, and more siping will perform better on ice, all else being equal.
ive never ran duratracs, but I have used my bfg AT's on solid ice, they work VERY WELL, and would be surprised to find something that worked better, that wasn't a dedicated snow tire.
but, I have noticed over the years, with BFG AT's especially, people either hate them, or love them. strange.
mattleegee
New member
I had a great experience with BFG KO on my Taco and survived a nasty winter, were i lived deep in the woods i was doing grocery runs for the neighbors as we were out of power for more then 9 days.
Also had a great time playing in the snow
Love the new look of the KO2s and bought a set right away, over the stock tires of course they are louder, and being E rated its a little different, but i know when the snow comes, and i hit the trails, i dont have to take chances because its a proven tire.
Also had a great time playing in the snow
Love the new look of the KO2s and bought a set right away, over the stock tires of course they are louder, and being E rated its a little different, but i know when the snow comes, and i hit the trails, i dont have to take chances because its a proven tire.
jrandom
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I have run a set of SilentArmors they were great in snow... the first season, kinda sucked the second with less than 20k on them. My mileage took a hit too, 1-3 mpg average worse than BFG's and they cost damn near the same. Then again this is all subjective
Mounted a set of KO2's today. Tire's look great on my otherwise bone stock '13 TE. The combination of relatively aggressive tread/sidewall and the slight size increase definitely change the look of the truck.
Thus far, I'm happy with the feel of the tires. You can just barely feel the additional rotating weight--not a concern to me at all. No notable noise difference and just a slightly coarser feel overall. The stiffer sidewalls actually make the truck feel a bit more responsive in my opinion.
Two thumbs up! I'm happy with my choice... even held out long enough for the current $70 BFG rebate!
BTW, regarding the comparison of the Rugged Terrains to the Ko2's, I've got a set of those on my Ram 2500 and though there's a familial resemblance, you'll never get the two confused in person.
Thus far, I'm happy with the feel of the tires. You can just barely feel the additional rotating weight--not a concern to me at all. No notable noise difference and just a slightly coarser feel overall. The stiffer sidewalls actually make the truck feel a bit more responsive in my opinion.
Two thumbs up! I'm happy with my choice... even held out long enough for the current $70 BFG rebate!
BTW, regarding the comparison of the Rugged Terrains to the Ko2's, I've got a set of those on my Ram 2500 and though there's a familial resemblance, you'll never get the two confused in person.
iRide4Runner
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The sidewall looks more aggressive but all in all, it's still the same old BFG mall terrain. If you live in a dryer area, I can see how it's a good option for a daily driven wheeler. But here in BC where the trails are muddy for 8 months of the year, they don't cut it. I've found they turn to slicks in any sort of mud.
Just like any other tire put on a street driven truck, it's all about compromise.
Just comes down to what performance aspect you wish to impact.
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