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bimrunner
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Welp. Looks like the 285/75/17 is going out... http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-roading/187472-km2s-discontinued-several-sizes.html
FactoryRide
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35's are already a stretch. 37's aren't gonna happen without going SAS. For me anyways. I don't want a 6" drop bracket lift.
Tire molds just have different tolerances. For what I was speaking of was just the size. 35x12.50x17 Nitto Trail Graps.
I thought I had saw something somewhere on that.
mikey's2010SR5
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There is a good discount on the KM2s I heard if you can find them. I was going to go with the Toyos myself but they are pricey, hence the Nittos. I am super happy with them so far with the light trail work I did this past weekend. Just need to get the body mount done.
TEQ.FZJ
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RG79
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I feel like adding larger bumps just defeats the purpose. Larger bumps will decrease your wheel travel which is super limited to begin with. It's nice to have larger tires but, at what expense.
Sure, I can have 37's but I would need to weld my control arms solid and reduce my steering by 40%.
Bigger tires are great but, we need all the wheel travel we can possibly get out of these T4R's.
That being said this is only my opinion and to each his own
Gabex35
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Should have a set of 35" general red labels sitting in my garage shortly after my return check gets deposited. I'm going to beat you
Damn, I'd hate to see what those red labled 35's weigh.
marshal
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Not bad, 75lbs a piece
1engineer
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One Million Pounds...
bimrunner
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Should have a set of 35" general red labels sitting in my garage shortly after my return check gets deposited. I'm going to beat you
I can't wait to see the pics!
FactoryRide
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I completely understand. The bumpstops only limit your uptravel, while still maintaining down travel. I believe that the extra size in tire would make up for the loss of up travel.
If you're really wanting wheel travel, the LT is the direction to go.
Should have a set of 35" general red labels sitting in my garage shortly after my return check gets deposited. I'm going to beat you
Dammit..
wfo9
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I would love 35s. Go figure it out for us.. These big heavy beasts need bigger tires than 33s.
As far as bump stops vs up travel goes. I'll take bigger tires and down travel all day long on a trail rig. Loss of up travel is well worth the trade-off. In fact, I traded out 3" of down travel for 2" of up travel in the rear and the improvements on the trail were significant. The problem I was having with all the down travel was my bumper dragging trying to crawl up ledges. That completely went away (in most scenarios) with the bump stops and more down travel. Also, tires are a big part of your suspension on a trail rig.
As far as bump stops vs up travel goes. I'll take bigger tires and down travel all day long on a trail rig. Loss of up travel is well worth the trade-off. In fact, I traded out 3" of down travel for 2" of up travel in the rear and the improvements on the trail were significant. The problem I was having with all the down travel was my bumper dragging trying to crawl up ledges. That completely went away (in most scenarios) with the bump stops and more down travel. Also, tires are a big part of your suspension on a trail rig.
RG79
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I assuming your talking about the MT long travel rear?? That system basically only has the bump stop in place to keep the new longer rear spring from binding and the new longer shock from bottoming out at full compression. The system makes up for the loss in 3" up travel to add a couple more inches of droop. This is great for a trail rig and if you want to have a higher ride hight.
I am going for a low stance all around capable desert runner, where wheel travel and handling is crucial. two different applications for the very versatile T4R
But also keep in mind more wheel travel = articulation. any time you loose up travel when your not gaining drop travel your loosing wheel travel.
wfo9
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Just FYI,
The rear springs don't bind with the MT setup with stock bump stops. The bump stops are only in place to keep the shocks from bottoming out. I had the MT LT springs with different shocks and stock bump stops and it was fine with lots of articulation and no spring binding... (but the ground clearance out back was not good fully flexed out). There is also no need to increase ride height to get more down travel... It's just that most longer travel shocks only have so much up travel due to packaging constraints. So you need to limit up travel and it just so happens that limiting up travel also helps clear bigger tires.
I agree though, it is a complex set of trade-offs. A great trail crawler is not going to be good at desert speed runs. Although, I think desert wheeling is a rare scenario for most 4runners, but I guess it depends on where you live and travel.... To really get a high speed desert setup to work right, it seems like you need lots of travel up front. Which is very difficult to get on a 5th gen.
TR4s seem like a good platforms for overland. Moderate and low speed trail runs with lots of comfy room to carry gear....
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RG79
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Or this.............
http://youtu.be/2yisWk37vUU
just because we cant get 15"+ of travel reasonably out of the front our T4R's. does not mean they cant be ran fast in the desert and then still go crawl up and down hairy trails. These vehicles are very versatile and can be used successfully in many applications. This 4Runner in the video has dual Icon shocks in the front with one being an omega bypass along with an omega bypass in the rear. This truck could also hang with anyone on the trails and has at the fj summit.
ok no more sorry for going on and on [MENTION=89562]bimrunner[/MENTION]
sigbrown1297
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awesome build!
FactoryRide
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Looks small.. Shoulda gone with 35s...
Looks great though! What do you think of the new size? Dramatic compared to the others? Any new rub from the extra width?
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