Cymon
New member
Until it saves you and your occupants life :lookout:
Break Pressure to stay stopped in traffic...
- Thread starter Hulka
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Until it saves you and your occupants life :lookout:
00Sebby
Senior Member
And it may indeed do that. But I do not like the unpredictability of it. It has caused me to lock up unexpectedly a few times that I did not intend it to only because I quickly transitioned from gas to brake. I like to know what the brakes are going to do based on MY input from light pressure all the way until the ABS kicks in. Now I find myself having to think about how much/how fast to apply the brakes. Having it over-brake unexpectedly could be a bad thing in the rain or snow. I will say this feature, or at least the way it behaves, is truly unique to the 4Runner. No other car, truck, suv I have driven locked the brakes up before I wanted them to. It's really my only 4R complaint other than the stinky exhaust and tapping sound.
JohnTheLuck
Member
I was surprised the first time this happened, but I am now used. The old sucker behind me while waiting in line for my first service at my Toyota dealer seems not to have understand this since he hit me while I was standing still. This sucker even accused me to have backed-off. Jerk.
1engineer
Moderator
It does not lock up the brakes in any situation, even snow and rain. It just stops you much faster than you can stop yourself. It took me about three times before I figured out to not panic brake unless it was a panic situation. ABS does not lock up continuous. It locks and unlocks a lot in milliseconds like a pulse. It's actually called a dither signal to the solenoid.
If you don't roll down the rear window while accelerating or climbing mountains you will not smell the catalytic converter, not exhaust, reaching the temperature required that produces the sulphur smell byproduct.
00Sebby
Senior Member
I feel like I'm hijacking the thread, so I apologize in advance. To be more technically accurate in describing my only major complaint, the panic assist feature applies so much damn brake pressure that the tires start squalling and the abs starts to kick in... much more than my foot pressure was asking for. When the abs is having to pulse and dither to keep the tires rolling, I call that locked up. That's what would happen without abs and I don't know if there is a more modern term. Sometimes I have to stop quickly but not faster than I wanted and not so fast the person riding my bumper is going to crash. Also, if it looks like someone is going to pull out in front of me, my foot reacts quickly from gas to brake, though I may only want to lightly scrub speed. This feature assumes the quick reaction is panic when it is really just being prepared. When I drive I drive. I'm always alert and paying attention to what is going on around me. I also have spent plenty of time auto-crossing, track days, etc. I don't mind the modern safety improvements. I just don't like the car assuming it knows more than I do. LOL
I understand you get people on here that may not have much car experience, but I know how abs works having been an automotive engineer and working in the industry for almost 30 years and the fact that at least 20 or so of my past/present vehicles were abs equipped. Heck, I've even been to Toyota in KY, IN, and WV several times as well as the Tahara plant in Japan where they build Lexus and Land Cruisers.
I also understand the source of the stench. The convertor is part of the exhaust system, right? "Stinky exhaust" is therefore accurate. My other cars' exhaust didn't stink, but Toyotas for some reason are notorious for it. I used to drive my old Grand Wagoneer with the rear window down all the time... it had cats but no stink. I ride around with the window down and know that it's going to stink sometimes. No big deal but it isn't necessary. Again my 4R is a great vehicle overall, but it is not perfect nor are some of the things Toyota engineers come up with.
