I feel like I am one of the few guys that wheel the 4R to it's potential on the stock suspension. It has been pretty freaking amazing so far, and I have gone so many places that myself and others didn't think I could. One comment I get all of the time is "I cannot believe how capable that thing is!" That being said, I am very excited to upgrade my suspension in the spring. It will open up new possibilities for trails, but most importantly, I will be much more comfortable off-road. While I get to many places stock, it's usually at a slower pace, and with a lot more bumping around than my friends with upgraded suspension. I am happy to say that I have wheeled the crap out of it, and it always puts a smile on my face!