Ouch, that hurts! Truth be told I had that hacky sack in my 1994 Toyota 4runner that I just sold (a sad day!), so it was my way of transferring my good times from my old 4runner to my new one! I probably have hit the sack once or twice in the past decade, but it's there when the opportunity calls - and it's not buried in my center console - I know right where it is! :hatsoff: