Saker
Senior Member
Really hard to tell.
Did you use the formula / instructions on how they should be adjusted @ 25' ?
I used the formula and lowered another 1" @ 25'.
Never got flashed...
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Really hard to tell.
Did you use the formula / instructions on how they should be adjusted @ 25' ?
I used the formula and lowered another 1" @ 25'.
Never got flashed...
4RunnerBen
New member
I haven't used that formula, yet. I need to find a parking garage or a building with a nice flat parking lot. I was flashed once, by a Platinum F-250. His lights were almost twice as bright as mine...
RysiuM
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I have no clue why people qualify the quality or adjustment of their headlights by the number of times being flashed. I never flashed anyone with blinding lights unless I'm in the far distance and I'm sure the guy (or gal) forgot to switch off his/her brights while approaching opposite traffic. Flashing is just a friendly reminder.
Flashing someone straight into eyes just because his headlights are broken and throwing lights all over the place or because the guy is a moron who put LED bulbs into old reflector housing, does not bring any constructive solution and the only thing it does is venting off some frustration. But that method of venting off is very dangerous. If a guy is a real moron, he might react with road rage. If the guy is already on his low beams usually if flashes back and you will feel like being flipped off and your frustration will increase. Or in the worse case scenario, if you blind some old lady she might panic and you would just cause an accident. Not cool at all.
So do not be that moron who is driving with blinding low beams waiting to be flashed. Just do the proper procedure of adjusting your headlights. And for the god's sake don't put LED bulbs into pre-2014 4Runner (the one with non-projector housing), regardless of what seller claims how good they are.
Flashing someone straight into eyes just because his headlights are broken and throwing lights all over the place or because the guy is a moron who put LED bulbs into old reflector housing, does not bring any constructive solution and the only thing it does is venting off some frustration. But that method of venting off is very dangerous. If a guy is a real moron, he might react with road rage. If the guy is already on his low beams usually if flashes back and you will feel like being flipped off and your frustration will increase. Or in the worse case scenario, if you blind some old lady she might panic and you would just cause an accident. Not cool at all.
So do not be that moron who is driving with blinding low beams waiting to be flashed. Just do the proper procedure of adjusting your headlights. And for the god's sake don't put LED bulbs into pre-2014 4Runner (the one with non-projector housing), regardless of what seller claims how good they are.
Saker
Senior Member
Hope the statement about never being flashed and headlight adjustment wasn't towards me, as noted I stated how my lights have been adjusted.
If not,
eace:
RysiuM
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Hope the statement about never being flashed and headlight adjustment wasn't towards me, as noted I stated how my lights have been adjusted.
If not,
Nope. It was a general ranting.:frusty::ybrick:. Peace :yield:
4RunnerBen
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You know what would be cool? A thermal vision HUD on our windshields. Until then, I'm going to wear these.
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RysiuM
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You know what would be cool? A thermal vision HUD on our windshields. Until then, I'm going to wear these.
Or be ready to put on these when you see someone who adjusted his headlights using "number of times being flashed" method :bounce:
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DogOuttheBack
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Install help
Just wanted to throw this out there but if anyone is in the Denver area and needs help with install of low beam HIDs feel free to shoot me a message. I would love to help with install/lowering of headlights if that's what's holding you up in purchasing.
Just wanted to throw this out there but if anyone is in the Denver area and needs help with install of low beam HIDs feel free to shoot me a message. I would love to help with install/lowering of headlights if that's what's holding you up in purchasing.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the forum info on lighting. I saw all of the posts about lighting upgrades shortly after buying my '18 SR5 and didn't understand all the buzz around the lighting issues. Coming from a 2011 Subaru WRX with factory HID, I never experienced any lighting issues.
Fast forward to 2 nights ago with my wife following me in her Outback on back country roads with no other lights round us. I quickly discovered that if she got too close to me, the shadow overlap from her low beams essentially drowned my lights out.
XenonDepot HID extremes were just ordered....
Fast forward to 2 nights ago with my wife following me in her Outback on back country roads with no other lights round us. I quickly discovered that if she got too close to me, the shadow overlap from her low beams essentially drowned my lights out.
XenonDepot HID extremes were just ordered....
modelstudent101
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Just purchased the XD Xtreme HID Lo and Xtreme LED Pro Hi w/ DRM module last night (Sunday). Made a mistake when checking out and purchased the Xtreme HID Hi's - couldn't go back in and edit the order but e-mailed the team at about 9pm PST to ask if they could change it. Got an e-mail back at 5:20am (Monday) saying they had made all of the adjustments and would be refunding me the difference. Received a shipping notification at 9:00am. Crazy quick and awesome customer service.
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XenonDepot
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XenonDepot
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XenonDepot
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I would suggest going with the 5000k option then but the 6500K would be worth checking out as well.
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kanonengedonner
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I posted this in a separate thread, but was advised to post here...
So I installed the Morimoto on my 2018 T4R. I gave them about a week of city driving and finally over the last 2 days 600 miles of country, highway and city driving with a lot of rain and some dry weather.
I am at a loss! I bought them because of the few good reviews, but I am putting back the $hitty stock halogens.
The Morimoto, to say the least, do not inspire any confidence. I'd say they are unsafe. They have a weak output, a very short throw, an insane amount of glare in the rain and I actually ended up with bad tunnel vision once, and had to pull over.
I feel bad as I wanted to like them. The install was quick and easy. The bulbs weer turned all the way into the socket, and at first I got kinda struck by how nice the color is. Then I saw that the light washed out with public lighting.... I kept driving and convinced myself that I would see the true potential once I hit dark highways and country roads. Not really.
The straw that broke the camel's back. I went and did a bit of research about the company as I thought it was a Japanese brand. Their "About Us" page has a stock picture of an Asian fellow with safety glasses on... add the Morimoto, Japanese sounding name and you get .... An Atlanta-based company !!
I guess I have to go the HID route and do the ballast drilling/taping that i didn't want to do.
So I installed the Morimoto on my 2018 T4R. I gave them about a week of city driving and finally over the last 2 days 600 miles of country, highway and city driving with a lot of rain and some dry weather.
I am at a loss! I bought them because of the few good reviews, but I am putting back the $hitty stock halogens.
The Morimoto, to say the least, do not inspire any confidence. I'd say they are unsafe. They have a weak output, a very short throw, an insane amount of glare in the rain and I actually ended up with bad tunnel vision once, and had to pull over.
I feel bad as I wanted to like them. The install was quick and easy. The bulbs weer turned all the way into the socket, and at first I got kinda struck by how nice the color is. Then I saw that the light washed out with public lighting.... I kept driving and convinced myself that I would see the true potential once I hit dark highways and country roads. Not really.
The straw that broke the camel's back. I went and did a bit of research about the company as I thought it was a Japanese brand. Their "About Us" page has a stock picture of an Asian fellow with safety glasses on... add the Morimoto, Japanese sounding name and you get .... An Atlanta-based company !!
I guess I have to go the HID route and do the ballast drilling/taping that i didn't want to do.
Angelo
Member
You're having a heavy buyer's remorse, man. Without sounding like a ****, welcome to upgrading a stock vehicle. I totally get your frustration. Some of the best advice I ever read online said something to the effect of "understand that every single thing you do carries with it both pros and cons" and that applies to lighting as much as it does to suspension, armor, anything. There is also the fact that as soon as people spend money, they tend to climb online and tell everyone how great it is. There are a lot of honest reviews on LEDs in the stock LB projectors around the 5th Gen forum, including mine linked on the LED section of this thread.
FWIW, outside of HIDs or LEDs in their appropriate projector, there isn't a headlight bulb made that won't wash out in most ambient lighting scenarios like city driving. Higher Kelvin temps universally glare in inclement weather- this is why effective fog lights in race trucks are yellow. Respectfully, if your headlights are washed out and you're feeling dangerous with the stock low beams, I think you should be making an honest appraisal of your vision and driving.
You mentioned fitting an HID kit into the stock projectors, but that carries with it some pretty major cons as well, both for you (drilling, aiming lower) as well as the people you're driving at. As was posted to you in the other thread, you should be aware that the only true incredible upgrade to the low beams is a HID or LED projector retrofit. Even then it's still very possible to blind people oncoming (hills) because the 4R lights are so much higher-mounted than your typical Acura or other stock HID passenger car. Pros and cons, brother.
In any case, thanks for posting here so that someone else may not have to make the same mistake. Cheers.
kanonengedonner
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You nailed it :crybaby:
What set me off even more is the Asian "scientist" on their web page
PS. My opinion is that the Morimoto are unsafe especially when it rains. Stock light are $hitty, but not unsafe. But I guess I could still get my eyesight checked, although I very much doubt i have any issues.
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RysiuM
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It always amazed me the very little common sense is applied to vehicle lighting modification in USA. I don't know if the the regulations are so loose or nobody cares about it. I know California does not have any safety inspections besides being natzi about emission.
In Europe vehicle lighting is for safety, not for show. When applying common sense to vehicle lighting modification in US it is worth to know, what is safe.
In that regards there is a strict regulations about headlights upgraded to 2000lm or more (LED or HID). When used on public roads (not off road) there is a real danger of blinding oncoming drivers with powerful low beam headlights if the the amount of light above the cut-off is not limited. While projectors gives you nice clear cut-off there are still two factors that make using HID or high power LED bulb in 2014+ 4Runner dangerous in US and not legal in Europe.
1. Aiming. According to European regulations, if 2000+ lumen light source is used in low beam the lamp has to be equipped with "automatic headlamp-levelling device". Many European cars have manual headlamp-levelling (a simple knob on the dash controlling electrical motor in the lamp to adjust headlight aiming and compensate for vehicle load) however even manual device is not allowed with high output lights. It has to be automatic. As far as I know 5th gen 4Runner does not come with headlamp-levelling device (not even manual). Or maybe they changed i last years model - please correct me if I'm wrong.
2. Cleaning. According to European regulations if 2000+ lumen light source is used the low beam has to be equipped with "headlamp cleaning device(s)". That is to prevent from the light being deflected or spread because of accumulated water or dirt on lenses. It is not a huge problem with halogen bulbs where the light output is not that high, but if the bulb has high output light, the proportionally light spread is higher too.
I know I will get a lot of :flamethrwoer2::AK47::gun4::gun5::laser: for saying that, but IMHO replacing stock halogen bulbs in 4Runner headlights with high output LED or HID is plain dangerous and should not be done for the sake of everybody's safety. Unless of course you are driving only off road, never in traffic at night time.
Saker
Senior Member
You nailed it :crybaby:
What set me off even more is the Asian "scientist" on their web page
PS. My opinion is that the Morimoto are unsafe especially when it rains. Stock light are $hitty, but not unsafe. But I guess I could still get my eyesight checked, although I very much doubt i have any issues.
This is strange....
Personal experience with Morimoto products since 2008 and have been very please with HID Retrofits and their other products that were installed properly.
You seem to call out Morimoto for reasons that seem to have nothing to do with the performance if used properly.
These projectors in
First you cannot put enough light into the reflector with a LED simply because of the position of the chips on the LED's stalk, period.
Yes, we place HID's into the reflectors to obtain better lighting.
No, the projector/reflectors are not designed for them, but there is more than enough light produced with the HID and proper aiming that makes the acceptable IMHO. Some will disagree and I respect that.
To callout MORIMOTO for your mistake is absurd to say the least.
Should you have questions about the best replacement bulb for the particular location, everyone is here to help.
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