StreetCreeper
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Actually I lied — it's 54,838 miles, but I'm impatient and don't want to wait an extra day or two.
So I bought these tires just over two years ago according to the date on my receipt. I had the truck aligned 15 minutes afterwards at Midas and haven't aligned it since.
I typically rotate and balance my tires about every 8-10k and I think that was stretching it out a bit longer than it should have. Next set of tires will get a rotation and maybe even a balance every 5k when I do oil changes.
In an effort to keep this short & sweet (I tried), I'll get right to the pros & cons that I experienced. However, I would like to state that I'm not trying to convince anyone that these tires are better or worse than any other tires out there. Other than the four shitty mis-matched and expired street tires that were on the truck when I got it — I've had no other tires on this truck that I can compare them to. Yes I've run AT tires on other trucks, but honestly, trying to compare different tires on different trucks is so subjective that it really is meaningless in the end. So I'll spare you all that type of nonsense.
CONS:
These tires are an exclusive tire made only for Discount Tire — also known as Americas Tire out here in the west. So unless you have those stores around your location, you will have to have them shipped to you I guess.
These tires can be vocal around 40~ miles per hour. Especially in long sloping turns; at that speed you can get a nice rhythmic oscillation going. Nothing annoying really, but I thought at first it was my rear diff, but it never changed in two years and I'm now pretty confident it is just the tires singing love songs to me...
These tires aren't the most aggressive looking if looking from the sideview. This may be a deal breaker for some since I know a lot of guys like all that fancy sidewall bling. For me though, I'm not crawling up rocks or trolling for hoes like a college kid anymore — so I don't need anything fancy. This isn't really a con I suppose — at least not to some of us.
These tires like to be rotated often, like probably every 5-7k to really get the most milage out of them. I typically waited until about 9-10k, and I think I should have done it more often to be honest. This isn't really a con either though, unless you are really lazy. Like really really lazy...
PROS:
They are not crazy expensive. I think I got them out the door for about $650 and then got a $70 prepaid Visa card in the mail a month or two later.
They really are an all-terrain tire. They may not be the best tire in any one area, but the Cooper ATP tires gave me no issues in any kind of terrain I took them on.
These ATP tires feel sticky to me and at first I fully expected the tires to wear out quickly — yet the tread life has been excellent and I fully expect to reach 60 or 65k on them before I replace them.
When I say the tires feel sticky, aside from screwing about on ice & snow and purposely breaking them loose, these tires only lost traction once in a real world on-road condition where I had to make an emergency stop (in the rain) on a poorly maintained and bumpy road out in the country. The tires rebounded off a set of nasty pot holes under hard braking and I slid for an extra 3-4 feet before stoping (no abs on my truck) That's it though — nothing exciting to write about really.
While driving in mild snow/ice, the tires behaved predictably and gave me no issues. I am a former truck driver however, so I don't screw about in the snow while out on the road. Slow and steady wins the race.
I never got stuck in the mud. So I guess that's a win.
I've had my truck loaded down many times with enough kids and gear to sag the ass down below the front and then drove 2000 miles without any issues. So I'd call that a win too.
In two years, I had only one puncture and it was a nail through the tread. It was a slow leak type that I noticed fairly quickly and had fixed without any issue.
During the last 55k miles, I've driven on nearly every typical road condition in terms of rain, snow, patchy ice, mud, flooded roads, sand, dirt, rocks, dry river beds and even through giant pink puddles formed solely from the tears of anguished Jeep owners after they realized that they should have bought a 4Runner. However, if I'm honest with myself, I would say that the vast majority of that 55k was spent on the road.
Don't get me wrong, I like to hit dirt whenever possible and in the summer that can be often — but realistically in the last 55k miles, I bet I didn't drive more than 200~ miles off-road on dirt/mud/rocks/whatever all together. My truck is my daily driver so I'm not going to be out there driving it off cliffs or through rivers and shit. At least not yet...
Now I could bore everyone with how the tires got me into or out of this mud hole or that mud hole or how I went wheeling and did this or that — but truthfully, unless you were in the same spot with the same truck in the same conditions — it meaningless to say anything other than these tires did everything I asked of them for the last 55,000 miles. These ATPs never failed me; they never left me stranded and I never lost traction in any significant way or felt unsafe at any time. I never once found myself in a situation where I wished I had "better" tires either. Simply put, these tires have done (and continue) to do their job in all temperatures, terrain and conditions so far.
The Cooper ATP performance has not deteriorated in any noticeable way either. As the miles have been racked up, they haven't become a different tire halfway through the run to 55k. They feel like the same tires as day one.
In fact, all the recent rains we've had out here in California have shown me that even with 50+ thousand miles on these ATP tires — they still feel solid and safe even while driving on the freeway in the rain.
Are they the best tire out there? I have no idea.
Are they the worst tire out there? I have no idea.
Are they better or worse than your current tires? I have no idea.
Am I happy with these tires? Yes
If I could change anything about these tires what would it be? I would magically make them look like the old-school BFG KO A/T tires that I had on my 1985 K5 Blazer. I've always loved the looks of those tires — their performance not so much though.
Bottom line — I would have no problem buying a new set of Cooper ATP tires for my truck. Nor would I have any problems recommending these tires to friends or family members either. If I don't buy another set of these Cooper ATP tires next, it's only because I might go over to the Cooper AT3 tires and give them a shot since I know that many guys have run those tires up to 80,000 miles without issue. Though I'm not sure if anyone has done 80k on a 3rd gen. After running these Cooper ATP tires for 55k though, I can see that being an easy milage to hit if you take care of your tires.
Honestly though, I'll probably just buy more of the Cooper ATP tires. I think the old adage of "if it ain't broke — don't fix it" applies here.
Ok a couple pics now after this "short & sweet" review...
Brand new tires:
Tires after two years and 55,000~ miles.
So I bought these tires just over two years ago according to the date on my receipt. I had the truck aligned 15 minutes afterwards at Midas and haven't aligned it since.
I typically rotate and balance my tires about every 8-10k and I think that was stretching it out a bit longer than it should have. Next set of tires will get a rotation and maybe even a balance every 5k when I do oil changes.
In an effort to keep this short & sweet (I tried), I'll get right to the pros & cons that I experienced. However, I would like to state that I'm not trying to convince anyone that these tires are better or worse than any other tires out there. Other than the four shitty mis-matched and expired street tires that were on the truck when I got it — I've had no other tires on this truck that I can compare them to. Yes I've run AT tires on other trucks, but honestly, trying to compare different tires on different trucks is so subjective that it really is meaningless in the end. So I'll spare you all that type of nonsense.
CONS:
These tires are an exclusive tire made only for Discount Tire — also known as Americas Tire out here in the west. So unless you have those stores around your location, you will have to have them shipped to you I guess.
These tires can be vocal around 40~ miles per hour. Especially in long sloping turns; at that speed you can get a nice rhythmic oscillation going. Nothing annoying really, but I thought at first it was my rear diff, but it never changed in two years and I'm now pretty confident it is just the tires singing love songs to me...
These tires aren't the most aggressive looking if looking from the sideview. This may be a deal breaker for some since I know a lot of guys like all that fancy sidewall bling. For me though, I'm not crawling up rocks or trolling for hoes like a college kid anymore — so I don't need anything fancy. This isn't really a con I suppose — at least not to some of us.
These tires like to be rotated often, like probably every 5-7k to really get the most milage out of them. I typically waited until about 9-10k, and I think I should have done it more often to be honest. This isn't really a con either though, unless you are really lazy. Like really really lazy...
PROS:
They are not crazy expensive. I think I got them out the door for about $650 and then got a $70 prepaid Visa card in the mail a month or two later.
They really are an all-terrain tire. They may not be the best tire in any one area, but the Cooper ATP tires gave me no issues in any kind of terrain I took them on.
These ATP tires feel sticky to me and at first I fully expected the tires to wear out quickly — yet the tread life has been excellent and I fully expect to reach 60 or 65k on them before I replace them.
When I say the tires feel sticky, aside from screwing about on ice & snow and purposely breaking them loose, these tires only lost traction once in a real world on-road condition where I had to make an emergency stop (in the rain) on a poorly maintained and bumpy road out in the country. The tires rebounded off a set of nasty pot holes under hard braking and I slid for an extra 3-4 feet before stoping (no abs on my truck) That's it though — nothing exciting to write about really.
While driving in mild snow/ice, the tires behaved predictably and gave me no issues. I am a former truck driver however, so I don't screw about in the snow while out on the road. Slow and steady wins the race.
I never got stuck in the mud. So I guess that's a win.
I've had my truck loaded down many times with enough kids and gear to sag the ass down below the front and then drove 2000 miles without any issues. So I'd call that a win too.
In two years, I had only one puncture and it was a nail through the tread. It was a slow leak type that I noticed fairly quickly and had fixed without any issue.
During the last 55k miles, I've driven on nearly every typical road condition in terms of rain, snow, patchy ice, mud, flooded roads, sand, dirt, rocks, dry river beds and even through giant pink puddles formed solely from the tears of anguished Jeep owners after they realized that they should have bought a 4Runner. However, if I'm honest with myself, I would say that the vast majority of that 55k was spent on the road.
Don't get me wrong, I like to hit dirt whenever possible and in the summer that can be often — but realistically in the last 55k miles, I bet I didn't drive more than 200~ miles off-road on dirt/mud/rocks/whatever all together. My truck is my daily driver so I'm not going to be out there driving it off cliffs or through rivers and shit. At least not yet...
Now I could bore everyone with how the tires got me into or out of this mud hole or that mud hole or how I went wheeling and did this or that — but truthfully, unless you were in the same spot with the same truck in the same conditions — it meaningless to say anything other than these tires did everything I asked of them for the last 55,000 miles. These ATPs never failed me; they never left me stranded and I never lost traction in any significant way or felt unsafe at any time. I never once found myself in a situation where I wished I had "better" tires either. Simply put, these tires have done (and continue) to do their job in all temperatures, terrain and conditions so far.
The Cooper ATP performance has not deteriorated in any noticeable way either. As the miles have been racked up, they haven't become a different tire halfway through the run to 55k. They feel like the same tires as day one.
In fact, all the recent rains we've had out here in California have shown me that even with 50+ thousand miles on these ATP tires — they still feel solid and safe even while driving on the freeway in the rain.
Are they the best tire out there? I have no idea.
Are they the worst tire out there? I have no idea.
Are they better or worse than your current tires? I have no idea.
Am I happy with these tires? Yes
If I could change anything about these tires what would it be? I would magically make them look like the old-school BFG KO A/T tires that I had on my 1985 K5 Blazer. I've always loved the looks of those tires — their performance not so much though.
Bottom line — I would have no problem buying a new set of Cooper ATP tires for my truck. Nor would I have any problems recommending these tires to friends or family members either. If I don't buy another set of these Cooper ATP tires next, it's only because I might go over to the Cooper AT3 tires and give them a shot since I know that many guys have run those tires up to 80,000 miles without issue. Though I'm not sure if anyone has done 80k on a 3rd gen. After running these Cooper ATP tires for 55k though, I can see that being an easy milage to hit if you take care of your tires.
Honestly though, I'll probably just buy more of the Cooper ATP tires. I think the old adage of "if it ain't broke — don't fix it" applies here.
Ok a couple pics now after this "short & sweet" review...
Brand new tires:
Tires after two years and 55,000~ miles.
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i was leaning towards cooper stt pro's but from what I've been told is that they are pretty much the same tire except the stt pro has 3 ply sidewall & mtp has 2 and the stt pro has 4 tread blocks compared to 3. Oh & mtp's are $300 cheaper! havent seen too many reviews for mtp. Another thing, are you still rockin original engine? i juist picked up my 4runner last month Aand it has 271k miles on it & i has hesitant to buy it because of the milage but it still runs like a champ!
