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Discount Tire had installed the wheel weights on my aftermarket wheels last week on the outside, and poorly (one was taken off with a single finger, wasn't seated well). Since I had requested inside, like they always had been, and the weights were installed improperly, I had another DT rebalance them before ever putting them back on my 4runner as they were riding around in the back of my Tacoma.
Anyway, after removing the weights, it was clear that some pretty significant damage had been done to the wheels by the tech, who DT admitted was new, and the original store ordered me 4 new wheels. Good amount of paint was missing along the massive areas the weights were applied on the outside, destine for rust, and well... it just sucked.
ANYWAY, I had them order the same wheel (Level 7 Tracker, 16x8.5) but went from my original 4.5" BS to 3.75". This was to achieve a little wider stance and have even more clearance from the UCAs for the future.
In short, the 3.75" BS achieved this goal perfectly and I have no rubbing at full lock, though I'm yet to test it with the suspension compressed any. I'll cross that bridge when I get there, but the plans I have for this rig should make rubbing a null issue
Moving on to the tire topic, there were a couple red flags to suggest the ATP's being undersized, severely. First, I noticed the tech mounting the first wheel and tire on to the vehicle, and walking over to the stack of my old wheels and tires (Dynapro LT265/75/16) and doing a double take. I walked over at that time to make sure he wasn't installing 265 ATP's, and he wasn't, but we both agreed they looked basically identical. With the driver's front mounted, he took one of my old wheels and tires and put it back on the passenger front and lowered it down for a more fair comparison. On perfectly level ground we measured, and observed the 285 ATP being less than half an inch taller than the original 265. From my research, the 285 should be 32.83" in diameter versus 31.65" for the 265, or a difference of 1.18"
So word to the wise, you may not achieve the look you were going for getting the ATPs. Style wise they're very close to my Dynapros and the ride quality (all of 8 miles I have on them to work, here) seemed similar - a little rougher than the Dynapros (34psi vs probably 40 that they put in the Coopers-may explain it), but I think I'll be taking them back. I didn't even need new tires (6k on Hankooks) but saw the opportunity to increase my backspacing for free as a good time to pull the trigger. I've found a couple posts on the internet of people complaining about the same, but never any hard measurements. The ATP specs are unavailable on Cooper's site, so I can't even tell what they 'think' the actual diameter is.
These pics are with the new wheels and tires
Discount Tire had installed the wheel weights on my aftermarket wheels last week on the outside, and poorly (one was taken off with a single finger, wasn't seated well). Since I had requested inside, like they always had been, and the weights were installed improperly, I had another DT rebalance them before ever putting them back on my 4runner as they were riding around in the back of my Tacoma.
Anyway, after removing the weights, it was clear that some pretty significant damage had been done to the wheels by the tech, who DT admitted was new, and the original store ordered me 4 new wheels. Good amount of paint was missing along the massive areas the weights were applied on the outside, destine for rust, and well... it just sucked.
ANYWAY, I had them order the same wheel (Level 7 Tracker, 16x8.5) but went from my original 4.5" BS to 3.75". This was to achieve a little wider stance and have even more clearance from the UCAs for the future.
In short, the 3.75" BS achieved this goal perfectly and I have no rubbing at full lock, though I'm yet to test it with the suspension compressed any. I'll cross that bridge when I get there, but the plans I have for this rig should make rubbing a null issue
Moving on to the tire topic, there were a couple red flags to suggest the ATP's being undersized, severely. First, I noticed the tech mounting the first wheel and tire on to the vehicle, and walking over to the stack of my old wheels and tires (Dynapro LT265/75/16) and doing a double take. I walked over at that time to make sure he wasn't installing 265 ATP's, and he wasn't, but we both agreed they looked basically identical. With the driver's front mounted, he took one of my old wheels and tires and put it back on the passenger front and lowered it down for a more fair comparison. On perfectly level ground we measured, and observed the 285 ATP being less than half an inch taller than the original 265. From my research, the 285 should be 32.83" in diameter versus 31.65" for the 265, or a difference of 1.18"
So word to the wise, you may not achieve the look you were going for getting the ATPs. Style wise they're very close to my Dynapros and the ride quality (all of 8 miles I have on them to work, here) seemed similar - a little rougher than the Dynapros (34psi vs probably 40 that they put in the Coopers-may explain it), but I think I'll be taking them back. I didn't even need new tires (6k on Hankooks) but saw the opportunity to increase my backspacing for free as a good time to pull the trigger. I've found a couple posts on the internet of people complaining about the same, but never any hard measurements. The ATP specs are unavailable on Cooper's site, so I can't even tell what they 'think' the actual diameter is.
These pics are with the new wheels and tires
