Creeping forward at stop lights

[TOYO74]

Not pushing the brake pedal hard enough, it's easy to misjudge how much application you need since the pedals tend to be fairly consistent through out the stroke.

Yep. Push harder on pedal and hold. Problem solved. Think of it as exercise.

 

[Ghostrider]

Yep. Push harder on pedal and hold. Problem solved. Think of it as isometric exercise.

As the OP that is what I try to remember to do but I have owned 20+ cars or trucks and none of them with auto transmission ever had this tendency. It is annoying because you come to a complete stop and as was mentioned you then look at other things like traffic or other stuff and then suddenly notice you are moving again. It's not glazed rotors with only 7k miles and it may be that the AC kicking in causes it.

 

[Mach1azuress]

I never had mine do anything like this, but I'm used to a racing clutch that's like using a leg press. So I tend to press pedals hard.

 

[catrains]

the reason we have this effect is the idle does change . I see it jump up 250 RPM.. on my OTHER vehicles [no carb] the idle does not change when ac comes on or any other reason AFTER THE VEHICLE IS AT NORMAL TEMP.....

THE engineering of the idle control is with a problem ... so we must hit the brake pedal down hard and keep a safe distance from the vehicle in front of you when in traffic etc...

Toyota may say its another floor mat problem LOL...

 

[kenwilliams0803]

Notice if your AC kicks in when it starts to creep. If your brake force and the torque @ idling reach a perfect balance the slightly added rpm may trigger it.

Exactly. Turning the steering wheel can have the same effect is what I am finding.

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Perfect. Lets make a pole.

I still love that this is what is worth creating threads on here. Coming from the JK forum where threads were always about bad heads, blown diffs, broken or bent axles, bad electronics, overheating anything, etc. Our biggest concern here is whether or not people can be bothered to press hard enough on the brake to keep their vehicle stopped.

arty:

 

[tm965]

Perfect. Lets make a pole.

I still love that this is what is worth creating threads on here. Coming from the JK forum where threads were always about bad heads, blown diffs, broken or bent axles, bad electronics, overheating anything, etc. Our biggest concern here is whether or not people can be bothered to press hard enough on the brake to keep their vehicle stopped.

arty:

here you go

 

[LaFJ86]

Mine does it, 16 TEP. My 13 FJ also did the same thing, so i got use to it.

 

[2011T4RLE]

My 11 did it when it was new, but I got used to it and now its not an issue. My 16 year old daughter manages just fine with it too.

 

[MSRP.]

Change of idle speed when the ac compressor kicks on, or when you see-saw the steering wheel, kicking on the power steering pump.

This is normal for all cars, just differences in brake booster settings..

 

[Soneill]

My 11' does it as well.

 

[johnbt]

I have over 6k miles on my '16 TEP and it has never crept on me.

I live downtown and have to drive through downtown to get to my girlfriend's southeast of town, so I do a lot of stop and go. It lurched forward once, but that was when my foot slipped off the pedal.

John

 

[chiz45]

Not pushing the brake pedal hard enough, it's easy to misjudge how much application you need since the pedals tend to be fairly consistent through out the stroke.

The other car has very touchy brakes (Infiniti Q40), and requires far less pressure to stop/hold. I just attributed my light pressing on the 4R to my time in the Q.

 

[headpaneer]

I have to be cognizant of this issue also. Every other car I have had with an auto trans, including a 4th gen, required much less pedal pressure to keep the vehicle stopped. I figured it was factory designed and like Cymon, also thought the pressure valving could be advantageous for off road conditions. :noidea:
It is a minor annoyance and I must lighten my foot substantially when driving my weekend ride. The first stop in that car is usually pretty abrupt!

 

[TexasTJ]

I thought I was just getting a lazy foot, my '17 TRD Pro creeps forward on me. Haven't had this "issue" with any other vehicles, just have to be more cognizant about it.

 

[rjb75]

I recall some people over in the 4th gen forum saying that upgrading to stainless brake lines seemed to mitigate this issue. Not really a big deal though-just push harder, as others have said.

 

[Slavic]

Is this a bug or feature? In 40 years of driving I have always rested my foot on the brake at stop lights. In the 2016 SR5 it starts creeping forward unless I use a heavier foot than I have ever used. RPM is still around 800 so I am wondering if this is normal. I now try to remember to slap it into neutral so avoid the 1 mph creeping

Same to me. (WTF?)
I think, need a steel bumper.Ha, ha, ha...

 

[Kamalani Mahie]

I'm used to driving large trucks that require a heavy braking foot so I've not noticed it. In fact, my V8 F150 wanted to go forward more at idle then the 4Runner.

 

[Ghostrider]

After looking at the tach today I am convinced that the suggestion about the AC is on target. RPM is 600 with no AC and about 850 with. If AC cycles on at a light the creep is possible because the brain is already sure that the vehicle is stopped and not expecting movement. Guessing I have a 600 rpm foot on the brake. This must be something newer to kick the rpm up since, as I mentioned, I never had it in over 20 other cars. Not the worst thing to find out about but it was unexpected to have to retrain myself to push the shift into neutral at lights

 

[Ghostrider]

Same to me. (WTF?)
I think, need a steel bumper.Ha, ha, ha...

I would love a factory steel bumper. I deliberately chose that bumper on my 2001 4Runner (for some odd reason in 2001 Toyota offered steel on some colors and painted bumpers on others). Never had an issue in 15 years. Already have 3-5 rock chips on my six month old 2016.