Daystar 2.5/1.5 Can't be installed on 2006 Sport Edition?

[NYRT4RSPG]

Hey everyone, new to the forum, new to 4Runners. I hope this is the right place to put this question, if not, I apologize. I recently purchased a Daystar 2.5/1.5 Leveling Kit for my truck with the intention of putting it in along with a new set of tires. The only place I could find locally willing to do the kit and the tires and the alignment was a somewhat-nearby tire shop (About half an hour away) I dropped the truck off on monday and the guy calls me back today (wednesday) saying that he can't install the kit because I have a hydraulic suspension system or something like that? He also said that my shocks in the front were big enough to accept the 2.5" spacer but the ones in the back were too small to accept the 1.5" spacer...Is that possible? I feel like I would have read about this being a problem somewhere on the boards? I guess I'm not the most Car-savvy person but to my understanding this kit could be installed with very little extra work. He also said that in order to do the back I would need to order some sort of hydraulic liquid capping system to keep the lines from spraying all over the place when detached? I dont know this all sounds a bit fishy to me I'm feeling like maybe I'm just getting jerked around, probably shouldn't have gone to a tire place to have my lift installed...Anyway I just told them to go ahead and put the tires on without the lift but I don't even think the tires I want are going to fit without the lift?? I don't know, sorry if I'm coming accross as an idiot I'm just kinda learning as I go, any insight into this debacle would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks again.:shrug:

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

No way you're coming across as an idiot, it's a common issue that shops don't know what they're talking about when it comes to our 4runners. The Sport model is equipped with the XREAS suspension, when means that the shocks are connected with hydrualic lines in an x pattern (front left to right rear and front right to left rear). This helps improve handling. There are certain disconnect points that have built in valves so fluid won't be lost. This is still risky, so many choose to do the install without disconnecting the lines. This makes the job a bit more tedious, but not too bad. You just take the strut out and work in the fenderwell on the front. There's no reason at all it can't be done. Many shops will not touch a 4runner with the XREAS system because they aren't familiar with it, and they don't want to be held liable if it messes up. The system costs a couple thousand dollars to replace, and it is a closed system so if any fluid is lost, it's impossible to add more and the whole system is ruined. Therefore, many shops simply will find an excuse not to touch it. The rear suspension uses a seperate shock and coil. The spacer goes with the coil and has nothing to do with the shock, so there's no problem adding the spacer there.

Basis is this: it will fit just fine, and stay away from that shop. The install isn't too bad to do yourself with basic hand tools. Check out the link in my sig for more info/pics on how to do the install.

 

[Vantage85]

To me it seems as though he is not familiar with the platform. SE spacers lifts are common, they will work with xreas.

Go to a more truck oriented place and you may hav better luck.

As for the tires, we can't tell you if they fit until you say the size.

 

[NYRT4RSPG]

Okay so I went to the place and picked up my truck and had the guy explain the situation to me a little more clearly. Basically he says that the issue is that when he goes to put the 1.5" spacer in the back the shock wont expand enough to accept it and therefore needs to be replaced. I guess with the suspension system the hydraulic line runs directly into the shock making it a "specialty" shock that needs to be replaced. Did anyone else run into this issue? I called another shop that specializes in lifts and they said the guy isn't completely off-base. They called Day Star and they said something similar although there are ways to get around it, making it a little more tedious (like you said) however it can be done. However he did have a concern that the 2.5" spacer may be too much expansion for the current shock to handle, but the first guy said the front would be fine, its the back where there is an issue...Quite the clusterfudge. Anyways the long and short of it is that the specialty shop is over an hour away and they seem to think they can do it, most likely not having to replace a shock, for 600 bucks including alignment. Blah. So I'm probably going to do that, just surprised its turning out to be such a production, anyone have any similar stories? In the mean time i got my new tires, 265/70/17 General Grabbers (they fit nicely) so I'm happy about that, I'll get some pics up in the picture thread once the weather clears up a bit. Thanks for your timely responses by the way guys :thumb3:

 

[mysticz]

Never heard of that happening, we did my buddies 04 SE with same DS kit and all we did was raise the back let the diff droop and pop that spacer in under the rear springs.

 

[mysticz]

Here is a guide to it.

Daystar (Spacer) installation on 4Runner with XREAS - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

I see what they are saying, but disagree that it's gonna prevent the spacer from being installed. Too many guys have installed the same or similar lifts without any issues at all.

 

[810moto]

NYRT4RSPG "Basically he says that the issue is that when he goes to put the 1.5" spacer in the back the shock wont expand enough to accept it and therefore needs to be replaced."

I call BS on this guys thoughts about his ability to install the rear spacers. Had he just unbolted the swaybar end links, unbolt the bottom bolt from the shop, let the diff drop, put spacer in and rebolt everything. 30 minutes tops for rear setup.
You could even do this in the drive way before dinner was even done cooking I bet.
Give it a shot.