Designing a PCK for the 5th Gen, need some input..
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JuniorPigeon
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Hey [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION], I have a 4th gen with a ToyTec adjustable panhard bar that I'm starting to get some clunking out of. I like the idea of stuffing my factory bar with poly bushings and getting one of your PCKs, seems much more solid.
My question is probably answered somewhere but I can't seem to find it, but the holes on the bracket would correspond to lift I'm assuming? Me having around 3.5" of lift in the rear I would think I use the very top hole or whichever was most level at ride height.
Thanks for any help and the great products!
My question is probably answered somewhere but I can't seem to find it, but the holes on the bracket would correspond to lift I'm assuming? Me having around 3.5" of lift in the rear I would think I use the very top hole or whichever was most level at ride height.
Thanks for any help and the great products!
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jkeith.w
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thanks!
use whichever hole best levels your bar at regular ride height/load level.
DontKickTrees
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Hey eimkieth, do you still have these available?
He has them for sale on his site: PCK (Panhard Correction Kits) – eimkeith.com
perf0rmance
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Read the entire thread - quite educational, even for a car enthusiast like myself. Sagitta was new to me and was fun to learn about.
Hey there, I’m noticing some odd handling characteristics with my 2” rear lift on my 5th gen. Can this be installed with a 2” lift only? Or is it meant for higher lifts?
JeuTheIdit
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Just ordered for my 2013 trail w/ KDSS! No lift yet but will install in anticipation of getting one. Thread was very educational and thanks for your contributions to the community.
MyanRagahis
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Finally ordered one. I like the positives I read about handling and I'm eager to feel the results.
I'll be attempting to weld this on myself so it'll be a fun project for me.
I'll be attempting to weld this on myself so it'll be a fun project for me.
Tuco S.
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I have one getting installed next week. I know nothing about welding, so taking it to a pro.
I measured from the frame to the outside tread block on my tires. It looks like my rear axle is off-center by @ 1/4 inch from the factory. Lift hasn't been installed yet. I'm going to take before and after measurements once the lift is installed. Curious to see what the results will be.
MyanRagahis
Member
Well, finally welded it on today. It was my first major project with my good ol' Harbor Freight welder and I've been practicing since November of 2020 and enjoying it.
While it doesn't look pretty, I'm proud of my welds and the progress/knowledge I've learned.
The rear isn't pretty but she'll hold. It was difficult to get between the brake line and parking cable while I had it wrapped in foil too.
I'm going to put everything back together tomorrow and see the outcome.
While it doesn't look pretty, I'm proud of my welds and the progress/knowledge I've learned.
The rear isn't pretty but she'll hold. It was difficult to get between the brake line and parking cable while I had it wrapped in foil too.
I'm going to put everything back together tomorrow and see the outcome.
perf0rmance
New member
Well, finally welded it on today. It was my first major project with my good ol' Harbor Freight welder and I've been practicing since November of 2020 and enjoying it.
While it doesn't look pretty, I'm proud of my welds and the progress/knowledge I've learned.
The rear isn't pretty but she'll hold. It was difficult to get between the brake line and parking cable while I had it wrapped in foil too.
I'm going to put everything back together tomorrow and see the outcome.
Looks excellent for a novice - nice work!
MyanRagahis
Member
It's been a week and it's held on so I guess my welds were fine lol. But really, this bracket feels great. I didn't know how much of a difference it would make, if at all, but I really feel it when taking corners and turns. The whole vehicle feels more planted and body rolls is highly reduced.
Thanks for making this bracket!
If anyone is curious about the process, I made a video of it start to finish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbJX5bTNftM&feature=youtu.be
Driving shots are at the end of the video if you'd rather skip to that.
Thanks for making this bracket!
If anyone is curious about the process, I made a video of it start to finish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbJX5bTNftM&feature=youtu.be
Driving shots are at the end of the video if you'd rather skip to that.
Bump this my 2013 has a 2" lift in the rear are these brackets necessary for a particular height lift? If so which setting would be ideal?
Thank you in advance.
Charles
mrblah
Senior Member
are they necessary? Thats up to you. If you are getting rear bumpsteer or butt wiggle on road when you hit freewway expansion joints then probably yes.
If you are getting fishtailing while offroading in 4hi mobbing it through the desert, than probably yes.
Does your OCD kick in, when you notice that your rear passenger tire sticks out half a inch from your driver side...then probably yes.
Issues with panhard geometry didn't become apparent to me until I went with a super stiff rear spring that pushed my rear end up 3 inches unloaded, and made the rear end a bit more sensitive to changes in the road. Most people don't have this problem.
Probably hole closest to axle. You can always just crawl under vehicle and mock up the bracket against your panhard while the vehicle is on the ground. Goal is to get the bar as close to PARALLEL with the axle.
I have one on order. I recently installed a adjustable panhard bar and that fixed all the above problems that the PCK does, but its more of a bandaid solution. When i say bandaid, it fixes all the problems the PCK does on day to day driving, but all the problems come back when i play in the desert.
If i had to do it all over again, i'd get the PCK over the adjustable panhard bar.
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I don't yet but will...your experience (and my OCD) sold me on this. A stunningly simple solution to an aggravating issue.
I already carry almost 300lbs permanently installed extra weight over the rear axle. The new trailer will have a 250=- lb tongue weight. New 600lb over stock Dobinsons rear coils with airbags for good measure. This will allow me to level the panhard rod with OR without the trailer. Very cool.
Ordered!
mrblah
Senior Member
just take a peak under your car, if your panhard is not leveled, then you may benefit from this mod.
for me, with a 3 inch lift in the rear, i went to the top hole, so probably the middle hole for a 2 inch lift, but every car is different.
I'll be bringing my vehicle down to 2 inches soon but probably keep the panhard where it is.
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