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Dirtbags Phishing on Craigslist - WATCH OUT!

mtbtim

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Howdy 4runner Gang,

Just wanted to let anyone know who is searching for a 1st Generation 4runner on Craigslist, there's a person(s) phishing for suckers posting a low mileage 1985 4runner for a too good to be true price. The truck they're using for photos is stock, dark grey, and looks to be in very good shape. They use the call back number (810) 534-7182 and use different names. I've scanned Craigslist across the U.S. using AutoTempest and I've seen the same truck posted all over. I've been flagging it for removal every time I see it.

The way the scam works is they put up the ad and get your email address when you contact them about the vehicle. They'll get back to you a few days to a week later and tell you they'd like to sell you the vehicle. They say the sale will be handled by a bogus Ebay financial service and they'll ask you to send money via Money Gram to some fake Ebay representative somewhere on the East Coast. They'll say the freight is free and the truck is ready to ship as soon as you make payment. They also say that you have 5 days after receiving the vehicle to send it back, at no cost to you, if you're not happy with it. They even provide you with a fake toll free number (866) 421-9800 to call to confirm everything but the call obviously goes right to the people trying to scam you. The fake Ebay invoice looks very professional and I gather it's fooled many people. The story they used on me was the person's name was "Debora" and she's selling the truck because it belonged to her husband that died 1 month ago due to a heart attack and the truck reminds her of her husband so she wants to just get rid of it. They had me fooled for a while until a couple red flags went up, like asking for payment via Money Gram, which I learned Ebay doesn't use and saying they couldn't take a phone call from me because she was hearing impaired. I felt stupid they got as fas as they did with me but I've never been the potential victim of a scam like this before and I'm obviously going to be more wary now searching for vehicles on Craigslist.

Anyway, I thought I'd post it here since there's probably many others just like me on this forum looking for a 1st Generation 4runner and I'd hate to see someone get taken by these a#*holes. People who try to scam people out of their hard earned money are some of the lowest scum on the earth.

Sincerely,
Tim
 
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Back when I was looking to buy, I found a Honda accord (if I remember correctly). It was way too cheap and in great shape with extras. Emailed a few times and she said her husband and 18yr old son died a few months back and she just wants it gone. Same deal. Who in the Hell does that!?!?? Wow!!! Pretty sure that's the lowest scam on earth.
 
I have a hard time agreeing that anyone deserves to be a victim of fraud. Quite often, these people target the elderly or others not adept with purchasing items on-line. Like I said, this scam wasn't done by rookies. The Ebay invoice they produced looked very real and providing a call-back number added to the transaction being believable.

Anyway, I'm glad they didn't dupe me, but I'm guessing this group probably got money out of some unsuspecting people.

I think I flagged their fake posts on Craigslist enough that they gave up but they'll probably just move on to the next scam.
 
What you described is a very common scam on many sites including autotrader. Anything that is too good to be true...is.

But these scam artists scam people every day, which is why you see these things over and over again for years. They find new suckers who will falsely believe what they are being told. And anyone can make the documents look real just as they can make a website look real. Lots of scams in that area too.

Be careful with your money is all I can suggest.
 
Thanks for the heads up

That's exactly the sort of 4Runner I'm looking for at the moment. Pretty sure I wouldn't have been suckered...but still, better safe than sorry. Appreciate you looking out for the community!
 
I' looking for a 5th Gen. I've seen similar ads all over. Craigslist seems to be weeding them out because I will get many hits on Searchtempest, click the link to CL, and it will already be flagged as taken down by CL.
For the ones that have still been up, Sometimes they are outrageous prices like $8K for a fifth gen with low miles, sometimes normal pricing, sometimes its a believably written ad, sometimes the wording is just cut and paste from a brochure with no other info.
 
You should NEVER send money (especially all of it!) via Western Union or similar. You have no protection. If it's being handled by E-Bay then there should be an E-Bay auction. You pay a deposit through PayPal & pay the rest in person with cash or bank check.
 
I think we have the same kind of seller in So Cal

Here is how they list there cars on CL.



"TERMS::
WE ARE WORKING BY APPOINTMENT ONLY! VEHICLES ARE SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY AND CAN BE SOLD ANY TIME! APPLICANTS MUST CALL FOR APPOINTMENT AND AVAILABILITY FIRST! DEALS WILL BE APPROVED AND GURANTEED PRIOR TO VISIT! ANYONE WHO COMES TO US WILL TAKE THE CAR HOME! INTERNET PRICE HAS BEEN DISCOUNTED FOR CASH PURCHASE ONLY. (UP TO 35% OFF FROM FULL PRICE INCLUDED). DISCOUNTED PRICES APPLY ALSO FOR "60 DAYS SAME AS CASH" PROGRAMM. ORDINARY LONG TERM FINANCE DEALS STRUCTURED BASED ON RETAIL PRICE. DISCOUNT MAY APPLY ON FINANCE DEALS BASED ON CREDIT AND RISK FACTOR. INTERNET CASH PRICE DOES NOT INCLUDE SALES TAX AND REG. FEES. WE FINANCE CALIFORNIA RESIDENCE ONLY --NO FINANCING AVAILABLE FOR OUT OF STATE BUYERS! APPLICANTS MUST HAVE CALIFORNIA DL, CHECKING ACCOUNT, JOB OR CO-SIGNER AND FULL INSURANCE. WE HAVE RIGHTS TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE!"
 
Here is how they list there cars on CL.



"TERMS::
WE ARE WORKING BY APPOINTMENT ONLY! VEHICLES ARE SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY AND CAN BE SOLD ANY TIME! APPLICANTS MUST CALL FOR APPOINTMENT AND AVAILABILITY FIRST! DEALS WILL BE APPROVED AND GURANTEED PRIOR TO VISIT! ANYONE WHO COMES TO US WILL TAKE THE CAR HOME! INTERNET PRICE HAS BEEN DISCOUNTED FOR CASH PURCHASE ONLY. (UP TO 35% OFF FROM FULL PRICE INCLUDED). DISCOUNTED PRICES APPLY ALSO FOR "60 DAYS SAME AS CASH" PROGRAMM. ORDINARY LONG TERM FINANCE DEALS STRUCTURED BASED ON RETAIL PRICE. DISCOUNT MAY APPLY ON FINANCE DEALS BASED ON CREDIT AND RISK FACTOR. INTERNET CASH PRICE DOES NOT INCLUDE SALES TAX AND REG. FEES. WE FINANCE CALIFORNIA RESIDENCE ONLY --NO FINANCING AVAILABLE FOR OUT OF STATE BUYERS! APPLICANTS MUST HAVE CALIFORNIA DL, CHECKING ACCOUNT, JOB OR CO-SIGNER AND FULL INSURANCE. WE HAVE RIGHTS TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE!"

And a clear indicator is all the misspelled words and bad grammar. Always research, be aware and never send or give money online.

And no sob stories...
 
damn i found a classic comaro and it was the same deal i was emailing her she said she was deaf and could not talk on the phone. she said her son died and wanted his car gone. she sent me the fake ebay link. i called it and they werent american he barely spoke english then i found the real ebays number gave them the fake number they confirmed that it was fake.
 
Howdy 4runner Gang,

Just wanted to let anyone know who is searching for a 1st Generation 4runner on Craigslist, there's a person(s) phishing for suckers posting a low mileage 1985 4runner for a too good to be true price. The truck they're using for photos is stock, dark grey, and looks to be in very good shape. They use the call back number (810) 534-7182 and use different names. I've scanned Craigslist across the U.S. using AutoTempest and I've seen the same truck posted all over. I've been flagging it for removal every time I see it.

The way the scam works is they put up the ad and get your email address when you contact them about the vehicle. They'll get back to you a few days to a week later and tell you they'd like to sell you the vehicle. They say the sale will be handled by a bogus Ebay financial service and they'll ask you to send money via Money Gram to some fake Ebay representative somewhere on the East Coast. They'll say the freight is free and the truck is ready to ship as soon as you make payment. They also say that you have 5 days after receiving the vehicle to send it back, at no cost to you, if you're not happy with it. They even provide you with a fake toll free number (866) 421-9800 to call to confirm everything but the call obviously goes right to the people trying to scam you. The fake Ebay invoice looks very professional and I gather it's fooled many people. The story they used on me was the person's name was "Debora" and she's selling the truck because it belonged to her husband that died 1 month ago due to a heart attack and the truck reminds her of her husband so she wants to just get rid of it. They had me fooled for a while until a couple red flags went up, like asking for payment via Money Gram, which I learned Ebay doesn't use and saying they couldn't take a phone call from me because she was hearing impaired. I felt stupid they got as fas as they did with me but I've never been the potential victim of a scam like this before and I'm obviously going to be more wary now searching for vehicles on Craigslist.

Anyway, I thought I'd post it here since there's probably many others just like me on this forum looking for a 1st Generation 4runner and I'd hate to see someone get taken by these a#*holes. People who try to scam people out of their hard earned money are some of the lowest scum on the earth.

Sincerely,
Tim

saw these guys on cargurus and CL about 2 years ago when i was looking for my 3rd Gen. they were then trying to use a fake PayPal.
 

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