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Dirtco
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Thanks Alex, me too! Very soon...
Thank you Durwin! Its been quite the undertaking but I feel its getting there.
Dropzone
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I want your truck!
Dirtco
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Anyone who has taken on this large of a project knows that you don’t just finish one day and it’s done, there are a lot of details to complete and a lot of tweaking to be done.
The first area to be addressed was the battery tray area. I cut so much sheet metal out of the front clip that the whole body started to sag under the weight of the battery. This is pretty common for SAS Tacomas and 4Runners so I knew it was coming, I decided to build an additional body mount directly under the battery.
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The first area to be addressed was the battery tray area. I cut so much sheet metal out of the front clip that the whole body started to sag under the weight of the battery. This is pretty common for SAS Tacomas and 4Runners so I knew it was coming, I decided to build an additional body mount directly under the battery.
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Dirtco
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Even with the shorter 4 cylinder Tacoma radiator it sat below the frame rails. So I made a low profile skid plate to protect it.
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Dropzone
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Outstanding work as always.
Looks like you are running a block heater and a battery blanket. Makes sense with how high you are.
It was funny watching people back out in
Alaska when they were still plugged in and wondering why people were yelling at them to stop...it only took once
Looks like you are running a block heater and a battery blanket. Makes sense with how high you are.
It was funny watching people back out in
Alaska when they were still plugged in and wondering why people were yelling at them to stop...it only took once
Dirtco
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Thank you!
One of the plugs is for the block heater, and the other is for the battery charger. I installed one of the small trickle chargers to keep the battery happy when it sets for a while.
Dirtco
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As promised, I told you guys I would have some pictures of the 4Runner in action and I wasn’t lying! I made the trip out to Moab for a long weekend last week with Aaron ( [MENTION=63986]Volcom[/MENTION] ) in his 1st Gen 4Runner on 40’s, Rick ( [MENTION=121121]Mr.Rick[/MENTION] ) with his 5th Gen 4Runner, along with Drake in the lime green Comanche and Aaron’s bother Eric with the YJ on 37’s.
I met up with the group Thursday afternoon, they had already found a campsite and ran Fins and Things. After I unloaded my gear we went to run Moab Rim at 4:30pm, nothing like an easy shake down run to ease into the trip!
(Most of the photo credit goes to Aaron and Rick, thanks guys!)
Devil’s Crack
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Aaron coming up
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Z Turn
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A short pit stop
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And another, with sand dunes!
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Drake and Aaron checking out the V Notch after the sand hill
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Coming down
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Finishing up the last section of the trail at sunset
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I met up with the group Thursday afternoon, they had already found a campsite and ran Fins and Things. After I unloaded my gear we went to run Moab Rim at 4:30pm, nothing like an easy shake down run to ease into the trip!
(Most of the photo credit goes to Aaron and Rick, thanks guys!)
Devil’s Crack
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Aaron coming up
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Z Turn
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A short pit stop
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And another, with sand dunes!
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Drake and Aaron checking out the V Notch after the sand hill
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Coming down
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Finishing up the last section of the trail at sunset
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Black798
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Dammit Jeremiah. I was just starting to convince myself that I was fine leaving my truck on ifs when I go to 35s and now after seeing this you have me rethinking all of that again lol. Your truck it in a whole new league now! well done!
In regards to the SAS how much narrower do you think the axle could be made. I have been tossing around the idea of flipping a 60 series axle housing to convert it to left-hand drop. My biggest thing with a SAS is if I ever do it Id like to keep the track width between the front and rear as close as possible
In regards to the SAS how much narrower do you think the axle could be made. I have been tossing around the idea of flipping a 60 series axle housing to convert it to left-hand drop. My biggest thing with a SAS is if I ever do it Id like to keep the track width between the front and rear as close as possible
Volcom
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Ouch, low blow low blow
I did manage to almost loose a rear wheel. All 6 lugs came loose. Jacked the wheel up pretty good and I need to replace all 6 studs in the spacer.
Dirtco
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Day 2
We woke up and decided to go run Poison Spider, this was going to be Rick’s first real test of his 4Runner on a harder Moab trail. I was at the back of the group so I didn’t get any pictures, but Aaron snagged a few (along with a ton of video).
First obstacle
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Further down the trail
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All lined up
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All in all it was a great day, Poison Spider is a super fun trail and Rick’s 4Runner worked surprising well. Rick, Drake and myself headed back to camp to relax a little, while Aaron and Eric decided to go run Hell’s Revenge. It wasn’t long before we got the call that Eric flopped his Jeep in Mickeys Hot tub, lucky he was fine and the Jeep didn’t get much damage.
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We woke up and decided to go run Poison Spider, this was going to be Rick’s first real test of his 4Runner on a harder Moab trail. I was at the back of the group so I didn’t get any pictures, but Aaron snagged a few (along with a ton of video).
First obstacle
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Further down the trail
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All lined up
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All in all it was a great day, Poison Spider is a super fun trail and Rick’s 4Runner worked surprising well. Rick, Drake and myself headed back to camp to relax a little, while Aaron and Eric decided to go run Hell’s Revenge. It wasn’t long before we got the call that Eric flopped his Jeep in Mickeys Hot tub, lucky he was fine and the Jeep didn’t get much damage.
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Dirtco
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Thank you!
I don't know the track width on a 60 series axle, but I don't think its that wide. There are lots of options to keep the axle narrow, I don't think you will have any issue keeping the track width front and rear the same.
Black798
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Thank you!
I don't know the track width on a 60 series axle, but I don't think its that wide. There are lots of options to keep the axle narrow, I don't think you will have any issue keeping the track width front and rear the same.
I actually have a 62 series front axle sitting in my garage currently, doing some work on it for a friend, but it measures 60 inches from WMS to WMS. From everything, I can find the stock IFS setup on the 3rd gen measures 61 WMS to WMS. I'm probably a little narrower than that due to my 2.5-inch lift, so the track width would theoretically remain exactly the same with the 62 series axle.
The only concern I have now are how will the 35s stuff into the fenders since they will be articulating totally different than the IFS. I'm suspecting they'll really start chewing into the upper wheel well at full flex. Maintaining a relatively low ride height is also a priority but I probably won't have much choice as to where that ends up with link geometry and all that.
Team_Jake
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[MENTION=121903]Black798[/MENTION] you could always (and should) increase the wheel base length a couple inches to keep the wheels out of the firewall.
With a solid axle, the wheels (as far as Camber is concerned) are always normal to each other, which is not the case in IFS. So when your wheel stuffs up into the wheel well, the hub will point at an upward angle. Or in other words, the top of the wheel will angle inward when stuffed. It’s nearly the opposite on our IFS’s, the top of the wheel will poke outward just a tad when at full stuff.
With the narrower width of the axle, you’ll probably be able to get the tire completely inside the wheel well, but it also means you’re interfering with other areas inside your wheel well close to the body. I believe it would easier to trim the fender of the wheel well than to trim everything up inside the wheel well area. Really I think it’ll be a whole mess of problems with that narrow of an axle.
You could always limit up-travel with bump stops too.
With a solid axle, the wheels (as far as Camber is concerned) are always normal to each other, which is not the case in IFS. So when your wheel stuffs up into the wheel well, the hub will point at an upward angle. Or in other words, the top of the wheel will angle inward when stuffed. It’s nearly the opposite on our IFS’s, the top of the wheel will poke outward just a tad when at full stuff.
With the narrower width of the axle, you’ll probably be able to get the tire completely inside the wheel well, but it also means you’re interfering with other areas inside your wheel well close to the body. I believe it would easier to trim the fender of the wheel well than to trim everything up inside the wheel well area. Really I think it’ll be a whole mess of problems with that narrow of an axle.
You could always limit up-travel with bump stops too.
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[MENTION=177008]Team_Jake[/MENTION], extending the wheelbase is a requirement. You physically cant fit the solid axle and all the steering linkage without doing so. I am aware of the differences in how a SA articulates compared to the IFS and that was what I was getting at. And my IFS does slightly camber inwards at full stuff, that's why the upper A Arms are shorter than the lowers. Maybe my wording was bad? Im not worried about the firewall in the slightest its the top of the inner fender well which in terms of practicality isn't moveable. There's too much stuff in the way to move it.
The narrower axle definitely presents some challenges, which is fine with me, I enjoy figuring that out. The problem is as much as I love dirtcos truck I really don't like how wide the front is so I would need the narrower axle. I understand his reasoning behind it I just don't like the look. Thats, where I was hoping [MENTION=67615]Dirtco[/MENTION] might be able to shed some insight, is if there is practically room to narrow the axle while maintaining useable up travel and flex.
The narrower axle definitely presents some challenges, which is fine with me, I enjoy figuring that out. The problem is as much as I love dirtcos truck I really don't like how wide the front is so I would need the narrower axle. I understand his reasoning behind it I just don't like the look. Thats, where I was hoping [MENTION=67615]Dirtco[/MENTION] might be able to shed some insight, is if there is practically room to narrow the axle while maintaining useable up travel and flex.
