Thanks Mike, that helps. I have a pair of your guys Timbren bump stops that i'll be fabricating a mount for so I'll shoot for contact with 1" of shock travel remaining and see where that gets me. I appreciate it!
Dobinsons Suspension - 4th Gen Options
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Thanks Mike, that helps. I have a pair of your guys Timbren bump stops that i'll be fabricating a mount for so I'll shoot for contact with 1" of shock travel remaining and see where that gets me. I appreciate it!
vonRunner
Member
Ok seems like 327's would probably be best as I really don't want it to sag below the front when loaded. Just out of curiosity, what would the difference in height and ride quality be if I went with the C59-675V or C59-677V vs the C59-327? Thanks again!
Crikeymike
Senior Member
675V would be about 2" with your added weight, and soft, not ideal for a lot of rear weight. 677V's would be 2.5-3" and have a higher rate and sit taller, but still not as strong as the 327's.
Hey Mike, just to clarify as I'm considering some 677v's to replace my 675v's...
According to the first page of this thread, the spring rate between the 675v and 677v is the same, the 677v is just taller.
Is that information inaccurate/not current? I like the way the 675v's perform, but want another half-inch or so, and though the 677v's would fit the bill, and I was trying to avoid spacers in the rear if possible, even though they're not as risky back there as they are up front.
Thanks!
Crikeymike
Senior Member
Sorry, yes, they're the same rate, but where they put the stronger rate in the 677V's makes them hold up taller since there's more of the stronger rate than the softer rate in them. Variable rate coils are quite unusual the way they can be made. And they're taller/longer to produce that extra lift.
Ah! Makes sense. Thank you.
What would the difference in lift between a 675v and 677v be for an unloaded truck?
Crikeymike
Senior Member
1/2" or so
Crikeymike
Senior Member
They've been great. I've never had a single issue with them and never needed to get anyone replacement bushings either.
Been monitoring this thread for awhile, and wow so many great options, but having a hard time deciding on what would be best for me.
Question for Mike or anyone else who wants to chime in with their experience: Any recommendations on a setup for my V6 sport, wanting to run 265/70R17 or 275/70R17 tires, no real extra added weight, and maintain about 1-1.5" of rake? I also prefer not to have to add new UCAs.
My current setup w/ XREAS and 2/1 lift spacers is getting a little worn, so thinking it's about time to upgrade. Thanks!
Question for Mike or anyone else who wants to chime in with their experience: Any recommendations on a setup for my V6 sport, wanting to run 265/70R17 or 275/70R17 tires, no real extra added weight, and maintain about 1-1.5" of rake? I also prefer not to have to add new UCAs.
My current setup w/ XREAS and 2/1 lift spacers is getting a little worn, so thinking it's about time to upgrade. Thanks!
Crikeymike
Senior Member
The most common height that people go with to suit what you're looking to do would be 2" front and 1-1.5" in the rear. Similar to the spacer lift height you're running. With 1" rear coils, you'd have about 1" of rake, and 1.5" of rake with the 1.5" lift rear coils.
C59-300
GS59-221
C59-599 or C59-505
GS59-705
No other parts are required with that lift height.
Dobinsons Lift Kit for Toyota 4Runner 4x4 2003-2009 (all options 0-3.5")
Thanks for the info! One quick follow-up - would jumping up to the C59-302 (2.5") coil in the front require new UCAs? How would that lift height work/look with 265 or 275 tires?
follow up...
I'm in nearly the same boat (mine is 2004 SR5) and I am looking at the same tire size. I like the info above.
C59-300
GS59-221
C59-599 or C59-505
GS59-705
Are these in stock? or what is the current estimated lead time? Should i just contact you directly?
I'm in nearly the same boat (mine is 2004 SR5) and I am looking at the same tire size. I like the info above.
C59-300
GS59-221
C59-599 or C59-505
GS59-705
Are these in stock? or what is the current estimated lead time? Should i just contact you directly?
Crikeymike
Senior Member
You could do that, it might look a big high with 265's, but ok with 275's. At 2.5", you'd get a better alignment with adding UCA's for sure. They aren't required, but it won't drive as well without them.
Crikeymike
Senior Member
You can use the link that you just quoted to make your order.
They're in stock with black or red front and rear coils.
gm350reratliff
New member
Got a question for [MENTION=148378]Crikeymike[/MENTION]
I have a 2008 SR5 4x4 v6 that is currently lifted with Bilstein 6112’s, King 700 lb coils, SPC upper control arms, 1/4” spacer on the driver side, and no front sway bar. I have a plate steel front bumper with a Warn M8 steel cable winch and a heavy AGM battery. I have several years and about 60k miles on this setup which has settled to about 21.5” center of the wheel to the fender on the left and about 22” on the passenger side (was about 1/2” higher when I first swapped in the King coils). The rear has Icon 2” coils and custom valved Fox 2.0’s and sits about 23.25” center of the wheels to the fender lip. This setup is very comfortable to drive and off-road with due to how heavy the front bumper/winch is but the left Bilstein has finally blown out completely.
I’m thinking of trying out the Dobinsons but I’d like your recommendation for front coils/shocks that can handle the weight and net me about a half inch to a full inch higher than it is now. Nothing for the rear right now. Unfortunately, I only go 4wheeling once a month now, compared to everyday pre-2020, but plenty of rough city streets here to deal with. Trying to stick with a budget, so I was thinking of going with the twin tubes but would the IMS series be better since I don’t have a front swaybar? Also, the aftermarket (Amazon) top hats and spring isolators are really falling apart now, are the Dobinson ones better?
I have a 2008 SR5 4x4 v6 that is currently lifted with Bilstein 6112’s, King 700 lb coils, SPC upper control arms, 1/4” spacer on the driver side, and no front sway bar. I have a plate steel front bumper with a Warn M8 steel cable winch and a heavy AGM battery. I have several years and about 60k miles on this setup which has settled to about 21.5” center of the wheel to the fender on the left and about 22” on the passenger side (was about 1/2” higher when I first swapped in the King coils). The rear has Icon 2” coils and custom valved Fox 2.0’s and sits about 23.25” center of the wheels to the fender lip. This setup is very comfortable to drive and off-road with due to how heavy the front bumper/winch is but the left Bilstein has finally blown out completely.
I’m thinking of trying out the Dobinsons but I’d like your recommendation for front coils/shocks that can handle the weight and net me about a half inch to a full inch higher than it is now. Nothing for the rear right now. Unfortunately, I only go 4wheeling once a month now, compared to everyday pre-2020, but plenty of rough city streets here to deal with. Trying to stick with a budget, so I was thinking of going with the twin tubes but would the IMS series be better since I don’t have a front swaybar? Also, the aftermarket (Amazon) top hats and spring isolators are really falling apart now, are the Dobinson ones better?
Crikeymike
Senior Member
Hey bud.Got a question for [MENTION=148378]Crikeymike[/MENTION]
I have a 2008 SR5 4x4 v6 that is currently lifted with Bilstein 6112’s, King 700 lb coils, SPC upper control arms, 1/4” spacer on the driver side, and no front sway bar. I have a plate steel front bumper with a Warn M8 steel cable winch and a heavy AGM battery. I have several years and about 60k miles on this setup which has settled to about 21.5” center of the wheel to the fender on the left and about 22” on the passenger side (was about 1/2” higher when I first swapped in the King coils). The rear has Icon 2” coils and custom valved Fox 2.0’s and sits about 23.25” center of the wheels to the fender lip. This setup is very comfortable to drive and off-road with due to how heavy the front bumper/winch is but the left Bilstein has finally blown out completely.
I’m thinking of trying out the Dobinsons but I’d like your recommendation for front coils/shocks that can handle the weight and net me about a half inch to a full inch higher than it is now. Nothing for the rear right now. Unfortunately, I only go 4wheeling once a month now, compared to everyday pre-2020, but plenty of rough city streets here to deal with. Trying to stick with a budget, so I was thinking of going with the twin tubes but would the IMS series be better since I don’t have a front swaybar? Also, the aftermarket (Amazon) top hats and spring isolators are really falling apart now, are the Dobinson ones better?
Sounds like you've had a hell of a lot of fun with this 4Runner so far!!
The C59-352 front coils with GS59-220 should bring you up to 23" hub to fender. If you're concerned about it coming down at all, you could run the tallest/strongest coils C59-354, but you'll most likely be at 23.5", which may be too much for what you're trying to achieve.
IMS would definitely perform better offroad than the twin tubes, and would also be more stable without the sway bar. The price does jump up a fair bit for those. Part number on them is IMS59-50220. Also, since they're height adjustable, you pretty much won't have to worry about buying a set of springs again after these, as you can tune in the height exactly how you want it.
There have only ever really been a handful of warranties on the Dobinsons strut mounts, and it's pretty much just from stripped threads on the studs during installation. The rubber lasts extremely well, and I can say that they're definitely long-lasting.
All parts and options are on this page: 4Runner 4th Gen (2003-2009) Archives - Exit Offroad
gm350reratliff
New member
Thanks Mike!
This 4runner has been a great vehicle for us. I joined this awesome site shortly after buying our 4th gen in 2008. We now have about 202k miles on it and it still runs and drives great. It’s been all over the US and has taken us on some great adventures far off the beaten path many times.
I went ahead and ordered the IMS shocks because I like the idea of being able to adjust the height and hopefully they help with the fact this 4runner doesn’t have a front sway bar. I also ordered the 352 front springs and new top assemblies. Excited to install all the parts and head out for more shenanigans (well, at least drive to work with a quiet suspension, lol).
ieatfish
Member
Alright, it looks like my X-REAS is completely toast and time to upgrade. I currently have a Daystar 2.5/1.5" spacer lift. It seems to be about the right lift for me, considering what I do (light offroad, forest roads, daily driver) and not needing all the extra upgrades like diff drop, etc. If anything I don't mind dropping a half inch.
I have a storage box setup in the back that is probably around 150lbs that doesn't get taken out. When I go out I don't take too much extra stuff, maybe another 100-200 lbs total, and no aftermarket bumpers or anything.
Suggestions for shock/spring combos?
I have a storage box setup in the back that is probably around 150lbs that doesn't get taken out. When I go out I don't take too much extra stuff, maybe another 100-200 lbs total, and no aftermarket bumpers or anything.
Suggestions for shock/spring combos?
