Does your 5th gen. take 20 minutes to warm up?

Adding a couple data points:

4R sat over night in high 30's/low 40's, when I got in it showed 46˚ out, drove on surface streets (35mph limit) and the car was blowing warm air within 5 minutes.

4R sat over night in ~0˚ in the mountains, when I got in it showed 20˚ out, let the car idle to warm up, and it started blowing warm air within 10 minutes.
 
Mine seems to take about 10 minutes, even around 40 degree air temps. Pretty frustrating. Im coming from a 2016 Camaro SS which was warm before I even got out of the neighborhood. Same thing for my WRX STI before that and the FJ before THAT.
 
I had a 98 4runner that seemed to warm up quick. Switched to a 2013 Tacoma and now in a 2016 4runner trail. We get pretty chilly nights here in Utah in the winter (single digits deg F) but I've never felt like it takes that long to warm up the engine. It's warm by the time I'm done scraping ice off the windows which is less than 10 min. It helps if you dress appropriately for the weather too.

My guess for slower warm-up times is just a heat energy management design change. More efficient cooling of the engine, higher thermal conductivity values, smaller thermal mass... Just a thought. When it comes to summer, shedding that extra heat is a benefit. Maybe I'll borrow some thermal lab gear from work and run a few tests as another member has done.
 
A block heater is available. They seem to be an simple install and would help with those cold mornings.

I'm in south ga. I think i've only seen frost once or twice this year...:confused:
 
I have remote start here in Canada, warms up well within 5-10 min also block heater helps but I noticed my heated seats don't warm up until I'm in the seat ( even if I start truck with keys) . Do these seats have a pressure switch?

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i have an 18 limited and i have to agree with all said in this post. these trucks are way too slow to warm up. dont know why but they do. otherwise i love the thing for some reason. even my 11 tacoma sport warmed up faster that this does.
 
Warm Ups

Interesting observations here... I have to agree these motors can shed heat extremely well, we have some wide temp swings in the Toronto area, got the truck in August and there were 40C / 104F days and I didn't think the clutch fan sped up much at all (obviously you can hear that damn thing), I was impressed and I could tell come winter it could become an issue (even sitting off in that heat the motor cooled down much quicker than I would think it should).

Come winter now we've had some days already at -20C / 14F, turning it off now and in 10 mins the temp gauge seems to be at the bottom again. I ordered the factory block heater and use that for nights below -10, have found that the temp gauge is moving and idle settles down to 1K within a couple mins of idle, heat is coming out of the vents within a minute of driving. Anyone notice snow and ice will remain on your hood for days? Bizarre that this thing leaks very little heat through the hood to melt it and obviously I'm not going to chip away at it.

Also had a viper auto starter installed for the convenience on my excursion across a lengthy parking lot at work at night. Certainly worth it because by the time I get there my seat is warm at least ! Typically I'm sitting there for another few mins waiting for the idle to come down before driving off.

Once its at temp however I can't complain about heat output, blower motor while a little loud cranked up does supply sufficient heat in any setting. Vents out back seem to satisfy my passenger requirements although I run an Obus Form heated seat cushion for my daughter off the back 12V outlet she turns on for the super cold days, works well.

Anyway - no complaints on how the interior retains heat either, things are sealed up well. Had to keep my blower motor on high alot in my Jeep due to the air coming through the firewall.
 
Seriously, this is the slowest to warm vehicle I've ever owned. Just for comparison, I took my F-150 out and it produced heat within 5 minutes. It has the 5.4L V8. My Avalon, with the 3.0L warms up quickly too.

So, is your 4Runner as cold blooded as mine?


NO. I warm up as any vehicle Ive ever owned.
 
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Gotta say I'm on the "it takes forever to heat up" side. Drove from Ottawa to Toronto yesterday (4+ hour drive) and the cabin never got really hot, even with everything set on high and my winter jacket zipped up. If I lowered any of the settings it would get a tad chilly, so I had to keep everything on high to maintain a comfortable environment (in the front of the vehicle anyway, not sure about the back).

This morning I was checking the fan output on the front registers and was dismayed at how weak they felt compared to my Camry and Sienna. I'm certain it used to blow harder as I don't recall ever having any issues with it last winter or during the summer. Am now wondering if the extremely cold weather is preventing some of the internal duct baffles from switching over completely, allowing some air pressure to leak to other registers?

At any rate it's kind of disappointing. Will play with it some more to see if I can figure out what's going on.
 
For those who think the truck doesn't warm up- do you park in a garage?

I park mine in a garage at home and at work and my vents blow hot air within a mile of starting to drive, particularly when I leave my house since I have to drive up a hill.
 
I can say that the 4Runner does not heat up as quick as my old xB.
By the time I got to the entrance of my neighborhood the xB was getting warm.
The 4Runner does not get warm until I'm about 3 miles down the road and even then it isn't as hot as the xB would be.

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Do we need to go over how a motor heats up quickest? Are you really concerned about the motor coming up to temperature or just getting heat into the cabin?

If you are just worried about heat, there was another post in the past week or so going over how to use the already installed auxiliary heater to help get heat into the cabin until the coolant comes up to temp. That at least helps.

These motors (like most) take forever if you are going to idle them up to operating temperature. Start the truck and go. Under a load is how it will get temp much quicker. There is no need to wait for the idle speed to drop, wait for the coolant temp needle to move or any of that. Get in it and go. Having the climate control on recirculate can help warm the cabin quicker, as long as you don't have issues with the windows fogging.

For you people in the really cold areas, i'm sure you could even experiment with putting some cardboard in front of half of the radiator to see if that helps, probably want to monitor actual coolant temps if you are going to do anything like that though.
 
Yeah I dunno about cardboard or some other non venting cover but I cut patio door screening (the black thicker type) to fit behind my upper and lower grill openings. Simply tied it into the grill work with black wire tie used for landscaping which is about the the diameter of twist ties, like for garbage bags. Fits nice and tight, not noticeable. Did this on my Jeep every winter too - not for restricting sub zero air coming in there but just to protect the condenser / rad through the winter with the rock salt, sand and you name it firing through there from other vehicles in these crappy conditions. I take it off in the Spring. I don't think it 'aids' warm up of course - I suppose there is some air restriction perhaps ( I cut out a portion where the air is directed toward the intake too ) but again - I do it more to keep some of the road crap out of there in winter. I guess it would be good for driving through a swarm of locusts too, but we don't have any of those damn things around here.
 
This takes at least 15 minutes to warm up :)
 

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For you people in the really cold areas, i'm sure you could even experiment with putting some cardboard in front of half of the radiator to see if that helps, probably want to monitor actual coolant temps if you are going to do anything like that though.

So the 4Runner is basically the same as my 1968 Dodge Monaco then?

Nothing like progress ...
 
My 2015 trail warms fairly quick. I live in Colorado. Now, Toyota is good at putting together parts based on region. How about a different thermostat, one for colder climates?

Mine was shipped to Hollywood, FL.

I haven't had issues if I'm driving on the highway, it's toasty after 4-5 minutes.

But city driving and 0F degree temps take a while to warm up. My commute used to be 15 minutes city and it was warm just when I pulled into the driveway.
 

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