1engineer
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a by product since when? toyota's pre 2002 didnt do this.. i first noticed it on 02 camry's when i worked at toyota.. .. we should be making advances in life, not going backwards.. i'd rather smell the gas fumes of a classic car than a rotten egg smell when i'm on my way to the beach and have to pass someone.. it literally makes everyone face scrunch up in disgust.. you cant sit there and say that this HORRIBLE smell is NORMAL? you're a smart guy.. something in you has got to understand where i'm coming from. 75% of cars on the road, DON'T make a sulfur smell when under harder acceleration.. let alone under load w/o the vehicle shifting down a gear when you go up a slight hill.. otherwise you'd smell it through your air vents on every up hill... think about it..
It literally makes me keep my rear window up at times when i want it down.. and have found myself rolling it up pre-pass or just as i pass someone or go up a steady long hill while maintaining my speed. Toyotas 4.7 and 5.7 engines don't do it.. whats the secret?
I can't sit there and say it's normal? I can if it's the truth. I have been driving a long time and since the '80's vehicles have been making that smell. Usually they make it right after starting the vehicle or sometimes under hard acceleration after coming to a complete stop. It's the chemistry of the reaction in the catalytic converter, and I have smelled it from a lot of different vehicles.
Adam, just for you I drove most of the way home yesterday from Charlotte, NC to my house with the rear window down and the sunroof open. This is a distance of 190 or so miles. 180 of these miles were on interstate I-77. A few minutes after I left Charlotte, I opened the sunroof and lowered the back window. I drove for 140 miles and never smelled the "rotten egg smell." We went up and down hills, I passed people, people passed me, etc. Now, I have gotten the rotten egg smell before but it almost always comes from hard acceleration when the engine is cold. Again, just for you I did a little research.
From Southwest Research Institute in Texas:
...hydrogen sulfide or H2S. It does not exist in the fuel or oil, which is why you can't smell it at the gas station. It does, however, come from the gasoline. Almost all gasoline contains organic sulfur compounds with sulfur levels ranging from 30 to 100 parts per million, approximately.
"As the fuel burns, the organic sulfur compounds break down into simpler compounds. If the engine is running lean (more air than is needed to burn the fuel), the sulfur is likely to be SO2, or sulfur dioxide. The catalytic converter can change this into SO3 (sulfur trioxide), which then reacts with the catalyst to form sulfates on the catalyst. Over several minutes there is a build up of sulfates. If the engine suddenly starts to run rich (not enough air to burn all the fuel), such as when you stop at a red light, climb a steep hill, or brake hard to slow down, the chemistry changes. Now the sulfates are unstable and they react to form hydrogen sulfide, which is expelled from the exhaust pipe all at once. The high concentration is the reason for the bad smell! This effect is a common problem with new vehicles because the catalyst is working at a very high efficiency. However, as the catalyst gets older, the activity drops. Fortunately for us, one of the first reactions to be affected is the formation of hydrogen sulfide. So as the catalyst gets older, the smell will go away. It should also be noted that many catalysts never smell bad. One reason might be because the vehicle doesn't run lean for much of the time, or perhaps the catalyst has an extra component that reduces the production of hydrogen sulfide.
So there you go Adam. Completely normal.