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Toffees
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Read up on this as much as you can, and test drive both. You might be better off asking a political question than this one!
Took the words right out of my mouth. I’m always late to the party. Lol
OP you’ve already asked this same question in another thread. It was answered and the answer is still no.
I’ll be one ......... SEARCH
Jetboy
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This is the best evidence of actual safety.
Academic metrics (safety tests and star ratings) often fail because academics believe that academia and the real world are the same thing. The real world knows that the two are not the same thing. What happens in the complex reality that is real world is far more valuable in predicting safety than crash tests.
As a general rule - in a vehicle on vehicle crash - you want to be in the biggest one. In fact the 4runner is as good as it get for multi vehicle crash safety. Per million vehicle registered years - the 5th gen 4runner has zero deaths reported in multi vehicle accidents. But it has 9 deaths in single vehicle accidents per million registered vehicle years. As a comparison, the Volkswagen Golf has 63 deaths in multi car accidents and 0 in single car. So you're 7 times as likely to die in an accident if you drive a Golf as compared to a 4Runner. A Subaru Forester numbers are 17 and 11. Somewhere in the middle.
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Jesse1983
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all threads merged, main title changed :mad2:
Toffees
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Yes, but will 37s fit without a lift? Bro? BRO??
fgeorge097
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TRDPro, or Off-Road then aftermarket mods?
Hello,
Prospective 2018 buyer here. Complete novice to off-roading, but want to get into it.
I wonder, is the TRDPro trim worth the extra cost, or would it be cheaper/better to get the off-road trim with KDSS and then mod it aftermarket?
I have read the skid plate on the TRDPro is crappy, and the RCI plates are better. Does the TRDPro actually come stock with anything that I cant get better/cheaper aftermarket on a lower trim level?
Hello,
Prospective 2018 buyer here. Complete novice to off-roading, but want to get into it.
I wonder, is the TRDPro trim worth the extra cost, or would it be cheaper/better to get the off-road trim with KDSS and then mod it aftermarket?
I have read the skid plate on the TRDPro is crappy, and the RCI plates are better. Does the TRDPro actually come stock with anything that I cant get better/cheaper aftermarket on a lower trim level?
I purchased the TRD Pro as at the time there were no off road premiums around and the Pro had not hit the lot yet. I really like the Pro and the accessories that came with it but will still upgrade the suspension at some point to go to 33" tires and more ground clearance. Very small consideration but I like the fact you get auto lights with the Pro, don't think you get that with the off road. mine is a 17.
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ayeyothisiskyle
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If you don't plan to do anything to suspension, PRO.
If you DO plan to do anything to suspension, go OFF ROAD.
Or ask yourself, what are emblems and cavalry blue worth to you?
If you DO plan to do anything to suspension, go OFF ROAD.
Or ask yourself, what are emblems and cavalry blue worth to you?
2112 R
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+1 to this advice. I have a 17 ORP and didn't choose Pro due to the extra price tag and already had a plan to upgrade suspension and tires.
The Pro looks awesome stock and if you want something that's ready to go right out of the box that's the 4r for you.
If you have some ideas of upgrades, mods and customization I would save the cost difference and get an ORP and then put it towards your parts of choice.
MrGainzz
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Those are what makes a TRD a TRD Pro. So getting those parts and installing them on a TRD off road and calculate the cost to see how much the difference is, so you can decide whether it’s worth paying thousands more than an off road or not.
To me,the only advantage of getting a pro is you will be covered by Toyota for 36 months or even longer if you buy extended warranty.
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To me,the only advantage of getting a pro is you will be covered by Toyota for 36 months or even longer if you buy extended warranty.
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Louise
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They are releasing the 4runner raptor in 2019. Totally kidding.
The 2019 has better shocks. JBL sound system won't matter when you're screaming as you put the petal to the metal. :thumb:
cgrigsby79
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In my mind, the answer really depends on how long you plan to keep the vehicle. If you are the type of person that gets a new car every 2 years, then I would go with the TRD Pro as it will have much higher resale value. A heavily modified vehicle isn't worth any more than a bone stock vehicle in the used car market so you can lose a lot of money if you decide you don't like 4-wheeling.
But if your primary goal is to build a great performing truck that you plan to keep for a long time, by all means go with the TRD Off-Road and modify it with vastly superior aftermarket parts for a fraction of the cost of getting a stock TRD Pro. As you mentioned, even a stock TRD Pro will require some mods if you intend on actually taking it off road...at a minimum, you will soon want larger tires, a higher lift, better skids, and proper sliders.
The only thing you may want to solicit some more advice on is whether KDSS is worth the money. I have it on my truck and absolutely love how it handles on and offroad, but honestly I have zero frame of reference as I've never driven one without KDSS. At around $2k for that option though, you could easily fund a very nice suspension upgrade just by foregoing KDSS.
I bought a 2018 TRD Offroad about 3 months ago with KDSS for around $38k new and probably spent around $2k upgrading tires, suspension and upper control arms, and sliders, but I'm confident my $40k Offroad will beat the pants off of a $55k TRD Pro!
Good luck!
But if your primary goal is to build a great performing truck that you plan to keep for a long time, by all means go with the TRD Off-Road and modify it with vastly superior aftermarket parts for a fraction of the cost of getting a stock TRD Pro. As you mentioned, even a stock TRD Pro will require some mods if you intend on actually taking it off road...at a minimum, you will soon want larger tires, a higher lift, better skids, and proper sliders.
The only thing you may want to solicit some more advice on is whether KDSS is worth the money. I have it on my truck and absolutely love how it handles on and offroad, but honestly I have zero frame of reference as I've never driven one without KDSS. At around $2k for that option though, you could easily fund a very nice suspension upgrade just by foregoing KDSS.
I bought a 2018 TRD Offroad about 3 months ago with KDSS for around $38k new and probably spent around $2k upgrading tires, suspension and upper control arms, and sliders, but I'm confident my $40k Offroad will beat the pants off of a $55k TRD Pro!
Good luck!
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I struggled so much with this and finally the moment came where one Texas dealership had a Pro ready for me and the other had an ORP with KDSS.
I chose the ORP, to my own surprise. I'm so pleased I did. The Pros are BADASS but there is some weird pride I take in having the slightly more capable/practical vehicle and knowing I can still make it whatever I want. I would never in a million years have chosen a red vehicle but it's grown on me and I'm in love with it now.
A funny after-the-fact revelation is that my ORP with awning clears my carport by 1/4 inch. The Pro woulda been a no-go, so that worked out nicely.
Good luck! You can't go wrong.
I chose the ORP, to my own surprise. I'm so pleased I did. The Pros are BADASS but there is some weird pride I take in having the slightly more capable/practical vehicle and knowing I can still make it whatever I want. I would never in a million years have chosen a red vehicle but it's grown on me and I'm in love with it now.
A funny after-the-fact revelation is that my ORP with awning clears my carport by 1/4 inch. The Pro woulda been a no-go, so that worked out nicely.
Good luck! You can't go wrong.
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