FJ to be dropped in next few years...

I like the FJ Cruisers...I think it helped spark Toyota to bring back the off-road capability for the 4Runner. So no matter how ugly some people might think it is or how much of a crappy play on letters and words it is. It served a purpose and continues to serve a purpose. From a marketing standpoint...Toyota can afford to keep it in the niche it serves against the competition. So the question is why get rid of it?
 
"F" engine (which it doesn't have)
"J" chassis (landcruiser) which it isn't
"Cruiser" which it sucks at, since you can't see out of it, it has the aerodynamics of a brick, but at least it's fairly comfy.
F was the engine type-Gasoline type.
B was the diesel version of this.

The "J" referred to chassis, which was based on the Willies Jeep. They did not come up with the Land Cruiser until after their military contract expired.

So, when Japan was selling the military versions to the US during the Korean war, they were identified as "FJ" and "BJ".
 
eliminating FJ, means making a 4runner with more offroad capabilities. With the highlander taking over even more of the daily driver market.
 
"F" engine (which it doesn't have)
"J" chassis (landcruiser) which it isn't
"Cruiser" which it sucks at, since you can't see out of it, it has the aerodynamics of a brick, but at least it's fairly comfy.

FJ Cruiser is just the marketing name since the "Land Cruiser" of early years is commonly known as the FJ. The first two initials in the model identifier Toyota designates each of its products, more or less a part number for a truck.

SO the FJ Cruiser is just a name. The REAL number for these trucks is:

GSJ15 for the 4x4 trucks
GSJ10 for the 4x2 trucks

Yes the FJ Cruiser is never going to be like one of my FJ40's. But as an owner of both, the FJ40 will never be the FJ Cruiser. They are different trucks bottom line each with their strong points.

Mark
 
eliminating FJ, means making a 4runner with more offroad capabilities. With the highlander taking over even more of the daily driver market.


This post is originaly dated in 2008 so the fact 4 yrs later and the 2012 model FJ Cruisers on sale at dealers right now the information was wrong. Toyota released the FJC in Japan and Australia this year. They will keep producing this model for awhile longer. Toyota runs on a 10 yr schedule for most of their trucks so the 2017 FJ would be expected to be the last one, UNLESS they release another version of the truck. However I personally think we will see the truck through 2015 then that's it.

Mark
 
It will be difficult to make a total redesign to the FJ Cruiser since it's suppossed to be reminiscent of the FJ of old. Very little cosmetic features were changed on the current version, maybe some options where standardized or removed, the only major change I think was that the rear diff changed.

It would be interesting if they revived another blast from the past after 10 years of FJ cruiser. Unless the looks of it are still viable to keep going another 10. Interesting would be a 2 door, FJ convertible. But I seem to have seen somewhere that Jeep actually has some kind of design patent on that classic Jeep design now. If that is true, then a 2 door or 4 door FJ converible with more retro styling would not happen.

If they go on with the same design, if it continues to be deemed viable, knowing that it is retro, so if that is what you like then it doesn't matter if the styling doesn't change....

Then maybe they would just continue with mechanical changes like more engine options. With the FJ in Europe and Australia, maybe, just maybe a a factory deisel option might make it's way into an FJ cruiser. Or a hybrid, or a smaller gas engine with turbo or supercharger and more gear options like a 7,8speed, different gear ratios in the diffs, a lower low range. Maybe keep it fresh by offering a upgraded offriad package like ARB bumper and winch from the dealer that you can then finance with the purchase.

I like the FJ. It's a cool truck. It's retro styling, so I don't really mind if it doesn't have a total extreme makeover.
 
I just wish that Toyota somehow revamp the styling a tad to allow for better visibility so that the kids in the backseat do not feel claustrophobic!
 
I just wish that Toyota somehow revamp the styling a tad to allow for better visibility so that the kids in the backseat do not feel claustrophobic!

I Agree. I think I can deal with the driver visibility. Even my 4th Gen has issues depending on how the side mirror and my seat is adjusted it creates a big blinder.

For the FJ, my daughter hates getting into my wifes car because she can't see anything out the window. In the 4runner she can see out the window and even out the middle through the front windshield.

I have considered the FJ for purchase because of it's capabilities and road comfort plus I do think it looks cool, and has many aftermarket parts. But the back seat goes to far back and sinks deep and the side windows are like port holes on a boat. Add some dark tints and you are sitting in a dark tunel.
 
I Agree. I think I can deal with the driver visibility. Even my 4th Gen has issues depending on how the side mirror and my seat is adjusted it creates a big blinder.

For the FJ, my daughter hates getting into my wifes car because she can't see anything out the window. In the 4runner she can see out the window and even out the middle through the front windshield.

I have considered the FJ for purchase because of it's capabilities and road comfort plus I do think it looks cool, and has many aftermarket parts. But the back seat goes to far back and sinks deep and the side windows are like port holes on a boat. Add some dark tints and you are sitting in a dark tunel.

If they can fix that, then i am all for it! Like you, i like the styling and don't mind the driver's visibility. I have driven my brother's '08 FJ a few times...i like it! But the back seat is a deal killer IMO. Short legroom. Porthole windows in the rear. No recline feature. I need Toyota to make it slightly more family friendly.
 
If they can fix that, then i am all for it! Like you, i like the styling and don't mind the driver's visibility. I have driven my brother's '08 FJ a few times...i like it! But the back seat is a deal killer IMO. Short legroom. Porthole windows in the rear. No recline feature. I need Toyota to make it slightly more family friendly.

I miss the full rear doors of my T4R, but I'm 6'3" and can sit comfortably in the back of my FJ. With the seats laid down, I can even sleep in the back without issues...

The drivers visiblity is not as bad as people claim, once you adjust your mirrors correctly!
 
they just need to make a clean diesel version and boom goes the dynamite... also SUV market is too strong in the US to drop all the SUV. more like coming up with these niche market vehicles and really catering to people who can afford them. toyota makes a great package and have a great heritage they should upkeep.
 
I hope they do not discontinue the FJ...that would be really sad. I like it a lot. It does well offroad and has excellent aftermarket support. I think it looks fantastic too.
 
Toyota will still sell them if they are hitting a units sold target the previous year or til there parts run out.

How would you evolve a retro style vehicle since you just can't keep selling it the way it is. The FJ's days are numbered but now quite yet.
 
They can improve a few things based on customer feedback. Also, add front and rear lockers and do a few things to attract the offroad crowd even more...give the Offroad version even more clearance...etc.. I think it is simply a fantastic vehicle and if I did not buy my Wrangler Rubicon, I would have bought a FJ.

Of course, I am just one person so who knows if my opinions are relevant to sell more vehicles.
 
Toyota just released 2013 pricing so I think the FJ is good for now
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The FJ Cruiser has been "canceled" since 2010. I should know, I owned one of the first production 4x4 6 speeds with the ripping front panels, bad T/O bearing, and other teething problems.

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I personally don't like driving or riding in the back of my parents fj, the blind spots in the sides are massive, the non opening rear windows and poor airflow, along with lack of legroom make it terrible on long trips, especially in hot weather. The suicide rear doors were a good idea, but they are a pain to close from inside if you open too far and I'm 6 foot 180 lbs and still have a hell of a time getting out.

Its amazing how little room there is inside when you consider the size of the thing.
 

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