Fully Enabled Nav Functionality!

DennisW

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I got my new Blizzard White Limited 4WD last week to replace my totaled Jeep Commmander Hemi which was sadly fully fixed up (lift/suspension/exhaust/cargo) and just where I wanted it... :( However, my departed Jeep's nav system ALWAYS pissed me off that you couldn't fully use all the features while moving. The only fix available was a software hack which was supposed to work just fine BUT if it didn't your nav unit was totally locked up and had to be returned to the factory (not dealer) for a fix. So I just sucked it up and dealt with it.

Enter my shiny new 4Runner Limited which reminds me of my beloved old Troopers in it's humble yet capable simplicity BUT a pretty new nav system that is even more limited than my old Jeeps!!! I did some research and came across these guys with a funny name but well reviewed:

Prestigious Society - GPS Navigation Override for Lexus and Toyota

I emailed a couple questions and they got right back to me with the right answers so I bought it ASAP before all you guys found out first and bought them out... They then offered to do the install for free if they could take some install pics since I was the first buyer to be local. Turns out they were initially a Lexus customizer but this whole "Nav Enhancement" thing has blown up into a big business for them and they work with Engineers in Japan with all the factory specs to make their system as perfect as possible.

I went over and the founder/owner Mark extra carefully pulled three panels and 4 bolts to get out the nav unit. It then only took a few unplugs/plugs to attach the unit. It's totally plug and play with all factory connectors and has a cable with an on/off switch you can put wherever. I had Mark install mine right by my knee for easy yet unseen activation.

Basically, hitting the button makes the GPS think you are stopped (or no data, or something...) and you have five minutes to do whatever you want with the nav system as if you were stopped. Full address entry, phone contacts, music, etc... It then automatically turns back on and the GPS only takes a few seconds to recalibrate and all is fine. You can also hit the button anytime to re-enable the GPS. I just used it during 12 hours of driving to/from Mammoth and had no problems with sync or anything losing anything when pressing the button. It just works like it should with the only caveat of no GPS updating while you are playing with it. There is also a mode to keep GPS off continually if you just want to play with the music or phone or whatever for the duration of your trip.

I am pretty much overjoyed after 3 years of suffering in my Jeep. I have no idea why companies do this, especially since they already have the tech to sense a passenger for the airbags, but (stupid lawyers) whatever.

This is a simple, plug and play, easily reversible, mod that WORKS. I will update if I find any other issues, but what else can I say? :D

Happy Open Nav-ing!

Dennis.
 
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Where are those pics???

They kept them :) However, after watching and helping a bit with the whole process it looks pretty darn simple for anyone with a bit of mechanical aptitude. The pics with their factory disassembly instructions will just make it that much easier!

Dennis.
 
This is a simple, plug and play, easily reversible, mod that WORKS. I will update if I find any other issues, but what else can I say? :D

Happy Open Nav-ing!

Dennis.
Cool - honestly, I can live with the gimped nav system, but their website suggests that you can use their system to play videos on my nav screen - that really caught my attention.

Any truth to that? Can you use an Ipod or Iphone video upload to the nav video display?
 
Everything sounds good except the $299.49 plus shipping. You can get the bypasses for aftermarket Pioneer,Kenwood and Eclipse that do the same thing for less then $20.

I'm going to cut my losses on this OEM Nav and sell it as soon as they have a 2010 4Runner bezel for aftermarket Navs next month. Metra Electronics 99-8227S Dash Kits - Audio/Video Accessories at Onlinecarstereo.com

They said 4-6 weeks before they get them in and they also have the harnesses to make everything plug and play with full steering wheel button controls from an aftermarket Nav like Kenwood or Pioneer.
I will be selling my Nav and factory bezel when I get my bezel.I'm not sure if it will plug and play in a SR5 or not.
 
Cool - honestly, I can live with the gimped nav system, but their website suggests that you can use their system to play videos on my nav screen - that really caught my attention.

Any truth to that? Can you use an Ipod or Iphone video upload to the nav video display?

You need another system that interfaces with theirs to allow video playback. From what I understand the video playback feature is for enabling the front screen in vehicles that already have video systems installed in the rear.

The price is kinda steep, but changing out the Nav system is too much PIA for me. On another forum I saw some serious electronics guys figure out the signal required and create their own circuit boards for like $20. However, that takes a LOT more skill than I have AND you still have to splice into the factory wires.

After being pissed off every day for 3 years at the locked up nav system in my Jeep, this is a pretty cheap and risk free way to be happy. I would say it's worth the price of like 2 dinners for 3+ years of happiness :D

Dennis.
 
I will be selling my Nav and factory bezel when I get my bezel.
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.....After being pissed off every day for 3 years at the locked up nav system in my Jeep, this is a pretty cheap and risk free way to be happy. I would say it's worth the price of like 2 dinners for 3+ years of happiness :D

Dennis.

where do you eat dinner?

that is expensive but no cutting is going to be a huge plus especially for leased cars
 
Believe me, it pisses me off to no end that Toyota and others DISABLE this functionality even for passenger use and that I have to pay even $0.01 to make it work after dropping $40K+ for their truck. However, this is the litigious hand holding society we live in now and any company that goes the extra mile to figure out ways to fight back even in the face of increasing restrictions deserves my extra $$$ for their trouble. Not to mention the price we pay for all the other accessories and upgrades we all buy for our vehicles, at least this one directly affects my happiness daily instead of just making the outside of my truck look arguably prettier to other people.

So yes, this is sorta expensive but I would guess that the small order factory connectors, custom box, and other parts might even be half the cost, then you have to factor in R&D cost as well for a very small run product that Toyota may well obsolete next model year.

I wish there was a cheaper yet still practical way to do this, but oh well. I'm not gonna wait and continue to be upset about it when a easy solution is available, albeit not as cheap as I would like. Now I can worry about how to make the outside of my truck prettier :cool:

Dennis.

Oh yeah, $150 for a medium nice dinner for two with drinks is pretty typical in Southern CA. Any decent steakhouse will set you back even more.
 
for $300 that thing better give me full access AT ALL TIMES! you get 5 minutes to do what you want and it goes back to normal? no thanks. chances are i don't have to plug in an address while i'm driving (i usually plug it in before i start driving). And i can use my phone to dial whenever, no big deal there. I would consider paying that price for all time access, no delay, etc., but not for a little better, yet still limited features.
 
for $300 that thing better give me full access AT ALL TIMES! you get 5 minutes to do what you want and it goes back to normal? no thanks. chances are i don't have to plug in an address while i'm driving (i usually plug it in before i start driving). And i can use my phone to dial whenever, no big deal there. I would consider paying that price for all time access, no delay, etc., but not for a little better, yet still limited features.

You can have it ON all the time but since it interrupts the GPS signal to allow full Nav/Phone/Music usage you want it to go back to normal so you can have your position updated and navigate. You can either leave it ON all the time or press the button to to turn it ON and OFF as many times as you like, but with a 5 minute timeout in case you forget to allow for navigation.

Yes, a full crack would be better but then that would involve a much more complicated software hack. However, just as with any accessories, if you don't need it don't buy it. :) Just trying to inform people about something I really liked.

Funny, but I read the most about this product on the Prius forums and they were much less critical of the details, they just wanted their nav to work! I guess truck guys don't need their GPS as much :D In fact, I don't use mine for point to point directions much, I use the maps to skip traffic, reroute, and find service places close to me like post offices, parks, stores, etc..

Dennis.
 
Hey atleast its better than the 08 Nissan Coupe we had. On that thing you had to press I agree before you could even see the map. The fix to enabling functions on that car was to cut the speed wire and put in a toggle switch. Flip the switch and the car thinks your stopped, play away, then flip back and on you go. The car stopped tracking when the switch was flipped so you couldn't leave it on all the time.

I would imagine the same would work for the 4Runner just cut the speed wire. I'm in no way saying that this will work on the 4Runner just that it may be an option. I have a pdf copy of the nav. wiring diagram that shows which wire it is if anyone is interested the problem is its 268kb and the upload limit is 136.7kb.
 
Hey atleast its better than the 08 Nissan Coupe we had. On that thing you had to press I agree before you could even see the map. The fix to enabling functions on that car was to cut the speed wire and put in a toggle switch. Flip the switch and the car thinks your stopped, play away, then flip back and on you go. The car stopped tracking when the switch was flipped so you couldn't leave it on all the time.

I would imagine the same would work for the 4Runner just cut the speed wire. I'm in no way saying that this will work on the 4Runner just that it may be an option. I have a pdf copy of the nav. wiring diagram that shows which wire it is if anyone is interested the problem is its 268kb and the upload limit is 136.7kb.

That unfortunately was tried already in the 2010 Prius (Same Nav system) and found NOT to work, well it only works for like 10-15 seconds and then back to locked. Hence my comment above regarding increasing Toyota/Lawyer restrictions.

Here is a link to the thread describing the issue and some very ingenious, albeit much more complicated solutions. I learned a lot from reading this thread and it helped me decide on the above plug-and-play solution.

Navigation Input Override (Speed Sensor Bypass) - PriusChat Forums

Dennis.
 
Works Great/Clean install

Bless the forum for leading me to these guys. As I live in Southern Cal, drove to see Mark and had him put it in himself. Works perfectly.

Installed switch as shown behind panel. When it's shut, no sign at all:
 

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The price for the module is $299.49 plus 8.75 tax and $75 installation charge.

We offer a 10% military discount so your $269.54+$23.58+$75=$368.12.

Ill be heading up on Sunday to get it installed.
 
I'm glad that my impetuous annoyance was able to help others! To anyone not within driving distance I watched Mark do my install and helped to take pics for their instructions and it looks pretty easy for anyone with a bit of mechanical aptitude. It's definitely harder to change the oil on this truck than to install their device.

Dennis.
 

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