Great MPG
- Thread starter rushrunner
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Ahhhhaaaaaa!!! But you don't ALWAYS get 20+ MPG so that doesn't count!!! :rockthrow:
I also didn't have a full-service station attendant take the odometer readings, fill my tank, and then put a tamper-proof seal on the fill door to make sure I wasn't lying to myself...
stevec5000
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Sungod, you must have something wrong or you have a lead foot. I get 21.6 MPG around town all the time with a V6 and the A/C always on. I get 28 MPG going West on the freeway towards Phoenix and 26 coming back the other way since it's up hill more. When I get off the freeway though and have to stop at all the red lights each one makes the mileage fall by 0.1 MPG so it drops rapidly back to 21!
OrdnanceMarine
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I've got to ask how you're getting way above and beyond what we usually see these rigs get? What version runner? What speed do you cruise at? What method are you using to track MPG? What things have been modified (tires, rims, etc.)
YotaDriver
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It's simple: he's full of ****. I filled up today after going 415 miles and it took 19.4 gallons, so 21.4 mpg. My a/c was on 90% of that time and about 150 miles were on the highway, the rest on secondary roads.
OrdnanceMarine
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I doubt those kind of results as well but I know that I don't know everything and might still be in the market to learn something new so I'm willing to give they guy a hearing. Perhaps in doing so he might realize he's not calculating things correctly, making some incorrect assumptions, etc.
21.4 MPG is in line with what I get on the highway at 65 MPH mixed with a bit of other driving.
I spent the last week camping at 8800' between Lee Vining and Bridgeport on the eastern side of the Sierra Nevada and hauling my 3400 lb pop up trailer up there keeping 55 MPH where allowed and 45 MPH on the steepest two grades topping out at 9500' and towing in 4LO for the last 4 miles with the AC on much of the time I managed just under 18 MPG. On the way back I was on track to break 20 MPG but got stopped just south of Bishop for over 1.5 hours total idle time with AC on while a fire burned just south of Big Pine, closing HWY 395 for periods of time.
rebelbowtie
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if he is strictly using the DIC I believe he may be telling the inaccurate truth so to speak. While my DIC is fairly accurate I can sway it if I try. I made around a 100 mile round trip driving down rural two lane highways averaging a speed of 55mph and my DIC showed 25mpg for this round trip.
I know I wasn't getting this mileage but I never did any hand calculations against that tank to see what I was actually getting.
I know I wasn't getting this mileage but I never did any hand calculations against that tank to see what I was actually getting.
YotaDriver
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I hear what you're saying about the benefit of the doubt, but 28mpg in a 4runner? I don't think so. Maybe he's got a Canadian version and he's actually using kilometers instead of miles, but if his odometer is reading in miles I'd say there's exactly a 0.0% chance he's seeing 28mpg for any significant distance.
OrdnanceMarine
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The DIC (assuming this is the onboard MPG calculator, right?) seems to read about 10% better than reality for a good number of folks so if I saw 25 MPG on mine I'd deduct 2.5 MPG (10%) for a more realistic number of 22.5 MPG. I could definitely get 22.5 MPG if I did a 100 mile trip at 55 MPH though I'd probably need to avoid the cruise control on hills, large or small.
It just so happens that the calibration I've come up with on my ScanGaugeII for my T4R is 9.2%. In other words, the baseline SG2 calculation for a 4.0l gasoline engine was giving me about the same 10% reading above the truth. Would be nice to find the hack to correct the onboard computer.
rebelbowtie
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DIC is the "driver information center" I just use that term for the range and mpg indicator in the dash because I don't know what Toyota calls it. My Silverado and A4 have these screens between the speedo an tach and the owners manual states it's called a DIC so it's just what I am used to calling it.
rebelbowtie
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That's why I said "inaccurate truth" because no telling how accurate it really is. But if that's what he based that 28mpg claim off of I can see him telling what he believes is the truth.
OrdnanceMarine
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Totally agree. You'd need the perfect combination of good gas, slow speed, no traffic, etc. etc. to come in at a true 25 MPG unless we're talking about sitting 5' off the bumper of a full-sized trailer.
Or else you can buy the magic performance chip advertised at the bottom of the page for $69 and do it all and more! :zoom:
Atlanta_man
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hear hear
buttons arranged to look like knobs - very bad design
buttons arranged to look like knobs - very bad design
boondoggle
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I think to get Mid 20's + MPG in a 4Runner you'd need a very large treadmill.
OrdnanceMarine
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Don't get me started on half-baked automated climate control systems. I hacked mine and put a manual switch in so I can keep the AC compressor from turning on when I don't want/need it running.
I greatly prefer the basic system Honda uses in their cheaper vehicles that cost less than half what my 4Runner was new that have an individual dial for fan speed and temp and buttons that can be made to turn on or off the compressor, recirculate or outside air, and which vents are active, top it off with a damper on every vent and you have a system that is as good as it can get for my straightforward mind.
