Gun mounts
- Thread starter Edubsam
- Start date
the great him
Elite Member
ok so i see some serious issues with this, you guys are taking you weapon off yourself and putting it in holster in the vehicle, what happens when you forget its there, and not on your hip and you park your rig and get out and go shopping or in to the movie or where ever you are going... you leave your weapon in plain sight, and even if you do remember to grab it your leaving an empty holster, witch tells any would be theif that there is a good chance this vehicle might have a weapon in it somewhere or at least an extra mag or what have you... leave the damn pistol on your hip, if you cant drive with it cause its "not comfortable" then you probably shouldnt be carrying it in the first place, carrying is not about felling comfortable, its about safty and protection... same thing with a condom, you dont wear that for comfort do you, no its a safety issue. now that ive added my .02 here is a place that sells over head and stand up rifle and shotgun racks... Vehicle Gun Rack Overhead Horizontal just do a google seach for law enforcement vehicle gun mounts/locks and you will find dozens of places that sell and make them. i will be getting a over head one for sig 556, and mount it to the 1st gen roll bar in the back.
Having the handgun out of a body holster while in the vehicle is a better option in my opinion. It's much easier to access. The holster mounted in the truck is an issue, I understand, but at the same time, I think the ease of access to the weapon when you need it outweighs the chance of getting broken into. Around my area, it's not a huge issue anyway. Obviously the responsible gun owner takes all of these issues into account when considering their options, which is what I'm doing. You raise good points.
That mounting rack is awesome! Thanks for the link. The long guns are gonna be more of a screw around in the bush kind of thing, not a daily carry deal.
That mounting rack is awesome! Thanks for the link. The long guns are gonna be more of a screw around in the bush kind of thing, not a daily carry deal.
the great him
Elite Member
i dont know about the state you live in, but i know some states its an automatic felony to shoot from a vehicle(even in self defense). they law was made to crack down on gangs and drive by shootings ect. case an point, there was a guy who was deployed with us over in iraq a couple of years ago, who turned 21 while over there, and when he was home on leave he bought him self a hand gun, was on his way to a range or somewhere he could go use it. he had is CWP and ammo with him. anyhow there was some sort of road rage incident dont know all the details but from my understanding this solider did everything by the book, he tried to leave, walked away back to his car and drove off... the guy fallowed him to the next light where he got out and smashed the soliders drivers side mirror with a tire iron or wrench and the solider told the guy "i have a gun, stop or i will shot you" (witness heard and verified this, as well as testified to this) anyhow this other guy smashed out his window and thats when the solider shot and killed the guy... now is i serving a 5yr minimum sentence for a felony shooting from a vehicle or some BS like that. again the law was designed to crack down on gang violence but yeah didnt work like that in this case... this solider is(was) a good solider, now he has been discharged because of a bad call(not by him, but rather some hot-shot DA who wanted to make a point and ruined someones carrier). this happend in new mexico like two or three years ago.
the great him
Elite Member
so i guess what im trying to say here is make sure you check all the laws concerning this issue, in his case he would of been A-ok if only he had opened his car door and got out and then shot the man. but in some states or areas that would show aggression and or intent to shoot someone and would rule out or negate the ability to claim self defense cause "you" advanced on the aggressor, now making you the aggressor, and or you left the semi "secure" area/or personal space of your vehicle to defend yourself. its a very tricky dicey situation, and i hope that i nor any of you will ever have to make that call, but i know for me id pull the trigger time and time again to save my life or my families life with out hesitation.
Trevloc
New member
i would never pull the trigger because someone broke my mirror and smashed in my window. imo, his life was not threatened. it was just an anger management issue.
but then again i dont know the whole story. so i could be wrong.
as for them seeing my holster... a. i have tinted windows and you have to be up against the glass to really notice it. b. i have a very sensitive aftermarket alarm, and c. i dont care, i shall do as i please.
:banana::zoom::banana:
but then again i dont know the whole story. so i could be wrong.
as for them seeing my holster... a. i have tinted windows and you have to be up against the glass to really notice it. b. i have a very sensitive aftermarket alarm, and c. i dont care, i shall do as i please.
:banana::zoom::banana:
I live in Washington. I have checked the laws as far as carrying weapons, loaded vs unloaded, extra ammo, clip capacity, ect. I didn't go deep enough to see anything about the kind of situation you mentioned. But to be honest, it doesn't really matter, I would have done the same thing. Over and over.
If anyone else in WA is wondering-
Loaded pistol is legal to carry in car or on person with the concealed carry permit.
Unloaded rifles and shotguns are legal to carry in your vehicle. Cannot be loaded in anyway, long gun clips must be unloaded as well.
If anyone else in WA is wondering-
Loaded pistol is legal to carry in car or on person with the concealed carry permit.
Unloaded rifles and shotguns are legal to carry in your vehicle. Cannot be loaded in anyway, long gun clips must be unloaded as well.
99runnerwa
New member
wow sorry but if some one follows me, gets out of their car with a weapon, smashes in my window after multiple warnings....that is what we call hostile intent and a hostile act. yes if he is banging away on your hood or other part of the car it can be argued as him just having anger management issues, but as soon as he attempts to enter the vehicle with a weapon that is when it becomes clear cut self defense.
99runnerwa
New member
oh and on the actual subject. I would have to agree with the kidd. maybe it is from my job but a hand gun belongs on your person at all times. for road trips i prefer a shoulder holster, more comfortable and easier to get to. or this (Holster Shirt | Concealed Carry Undergear Shirts | 5.11 Tactical) from 5.11 tactical. it is great for driving or just walking around (with a button down shirt over it) but not secure enough for physical activity.
BrianSD_42
New member
I agree with the kid that there are many situations where having the gun in the car but not on your person can be a bad idea.
Also you should probably check to see what qualifies as authorization for "use of deadly force" - in some states (such as CA) you might have to prove that you knew your life was in immediate danger, meaning that you knew he/she intended to kill you with a weapon.
In the example of someone hitting your car with a tire iron, the prosecutor is likely to try and establish that you could have driven away and that you were still in the car. I obviously don't know all the details about the case in question but if a jury of 12 peers convicted him then they believed he was guilty for a reason. The system doesn't always work but I would actually expect active duty personnel to get a fairer chance than most people in that situation.
*Although it is not unheard of for prosecutors to conduct themselves in unethical conduct (Strauss-Kann case, Duke Lacross Team case)
Then there is this case where the judges were corrupt and ruled over 5,000 PA teens youth-cases, sending many of them to a private prison and for each one sent the judges received a kick-back.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/us/13judge.html?pagewanted=all
Also you should probably check to see what qualifies as authorization for "use of deadly force" - in some states (such as CA) you might have to prove that you knew your life was in immediate danger, meaning that you knew he/she intended to kill you with a weapon.
In the example of someone hitting your car with a tire iron, the prosecutor is likely to try and establish that you could have driven away and that you were still in the car. I obviously don't know all the details about the case in question but if a jury of 12 peers convicted him then they believed he was guilty for a reason. The system doesn't always work but I would actually expect active duty personnel to get a fairer chance than most people in that situation.
*Although it is not unheard of for prosecutors to conduct themselves in unethical conduct (Strauss-Kann case, Duke Lacross Team case)
Then there is this case where the judges were corrupt and ruled over 5,000 PA teens youth-cases, sending many of them to a private prison and for each one sent the judges received a kick-back.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/us/13judge.html?pagewanted=all
Last edited:
Trevloc
New member
a few of my officer friends recommended it. they even have them in their own civilian vehicle.
but yes i would be keeping my hands on my steering wheel and notifying them of it before moving. and of course i checked my local laws... if anything its better they can see it rather than it hidden.
04rnr
New member
from my understanding, here in Colorado, that would be fine, your person vehicle is part of your personal property, and you are allowed to have a loaded weapon in your personal property.
quicksilvr
New member
An officer would MUCH prefer to see the weapon than not. Honestly, the simple act of keeping your hands on the steering wheel makes a big difference. It shows an officer that you know the common courtesy's and "unspoken" protocol that the majority of civilians don't know, or don't care about.
