Defenders don't count. Those rigs are legit
Come to think of it, the worst two cars I've ever owned were the only two other SUVs I've owned...97 Jeep GC and 08 LR3. The bar is set low for my 4RUNNER. Lol
Has anyone gone from Land Rover to 4Runner?
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Defenders don't count. Those rigs are legit
Come to think of it, the worst two cars I've ever owned were the only two other SUVs I've owned...97 Jeep GC and 08 LR3. The bar is set low for my 4RUNNER. Lol
Yep. A 4Runner isn't going to get close off road. But for a daily driver a defender would get old, I think. I would not mind having one or a Series LR.Defenders don't count. Those rigs are legit
It could. I don't know why you wouldn't want KDSS if you can get it, especially if you plan to off road. Without it you're going to have to trade off on-road stability for off-road articulation. KDSS gives you both.
If you don't want KDSS and plan to mod it, why not get an SR5? And if you really want a Trail, have you considered a TRD, or a Trail with TRD suspension?
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Hello. new to this forum.
I am in the same boat. I own a Land Rover LR2 with over 100k miles in my ownership. It has been extremely reliable and capable with light off roading thus far. I dont understand the other owners with reliability issues but I think J-LR has done a great job in the past 4years eliminating any bugs that used to plague these gorgeous machines. I am on this forum today because I am in need of a 7-seater and I am cross shopping between the LR4 and the equally capable 4runner. While I do love the LR4's beautiful interior and creature comforts such as heated seats/steering wheel, plush leather and such, I really like the new 4runner's aggressive front end makeover for the 2014+ models. Any input on the 3rd row seating from anyone? We are planning a East coast to West coast cross-country trip this summer and would like your input.
I am in the same boat. I own a Land Rover LR2 with over 100k miles in my ownership. It has been extremely reliable and capable with light off roading thus far. I dont understand the other owners with reliability issues but I think J-LR has done a great job in the past 4years eliminating any bugs that used to plague these gorgeous machines. I am on this forum today because I am in need of a 7-seater and I am cross shopping between the LR4 and the equally capable 4runner. While I do love the LR4's beautiful interior and creature comforts such as heated seats/steering wheel, plush leather and such, I really like the new 4runner's aggressive front end makeover for the 2014+ models. Any input on the 3rd row seating from anyone? We are planning a East coast to West coast cross-country trip this summer and would like your input.
I dont think LR2's are plagued by the same reliability issues considering it is a Ford Escape platform-wise. While Ford is also not reliable per se, they are probably a little more reliable than LR from what Ive read.
I have no personal experience with LRs... Thats just my opinion based on my research
Let's be honest here....even Land Rover, being on the bottom of the reliability scale, is not going to spend much time in the shop. My guess is less than 1% on average. Maybe 3 days per year....
Its kinda sad that the car you drive can affect how you feel as a man. Personally, I'd feel just as "manly" in a Prius as I would in any truck or SUV.
Dexter Morgan
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I've thought about an SR5 as well, which would save me some money as the MSRP is markedly lower than the Trail. For some reason, i just can't get a hold on having a "bottom of the line" vehicle on any platform. I always want to the fully spec'd version. Unfortunately in my case, i can't do that because of the headroom issues. That said, I feel the SR5's are nicely equipped, only lacking in things like auto headlights, keyless entry (a real nice feature), etc.
Thing is, I have a trade so going outside of my region could be tricky as I can see getting there and the dealership completely hosing my on my trade.
I have looked at the TRD pro, but obviously they are hard to come by. You get the SofTex without sunroof.
hamburglar210
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Think about a car broker. I used one and he got me almost 2k more on my trade than it was legitimately worth and found me exactly what I wanted in a 4Runner. They may have more flexibility to search around for the car you want(definitely more incentive) and you basically sell them your trade which they just shop around to a lot of dealerships in the area to get a better price.
I would definitely use one again if I had a trade. The guy did all of the leg work and brought the T4R right to my office with all of the paperwork so I just signed some stuff and we traded keys.
Edit: He was able to get me a better rate through a local credit union than I could find on my own so there's that too.
Dexter Morgan
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Thanks man, sounds interesting...did he charge a commission or was it a flat fee?
The only reason why I need to contemplate out of region is if I truly want KDSS. Because I'm immediately going up with either 5100 or OME, not sure if I need it as much to stabilize. Stock? Yes, but I'll be stock for 50 miles until I drive her to my local mechanic who does great work.
hamburglar210
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No fee at all. Since it was a new car he got paid from Toyota as if he were a Toyota salesman. I'm not sure if that's the norm(probably) but it worked out in my favor.
I can't speak to the benefits of KDSS but I have it and the others who commented on it in this thread are smarter than I, don't rule it out.
The only Touareg owners I know are soccer moms. Seriously. But they love them. For the price, I'd rather just spring extra and get the cayenne.
Jetboy
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LR has come a long way by building many of its models on Ford platforms - which are in turn really last generation Mazda and Volvo engineered products. Even 3 days per year can be a lot though. I think the days of free - you tow it away - Discoverys are over. If you live or travel in remote areas - particularly those without cell signal, reliability is still a big issue even if it's only a few break downs per year. I don't really see that as a big issue anymore as LRs in the USA are all crossovers anyway. They aren't likely to be going anywhere you can't walk to a starbucks and get a coffee while you wait for a tow truck.
I spent the last 2 weeks driving around northern Europe in a '14 Evoque Dynamic. Seemed like a nice little urban crossover. I really like the panoramic roof. I'd love to have that on my runner instead of the sunroof, but with a removable glass panel that you'd leave at home on sunny days. OTOH, in comparison I wouldn't consider trading our RX for one. RX has more hp, same mpg - little LR didn't get very good mpg, nicer fit and finish and interior quality. But this is really a different segment.
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I fully agree that LR is a different market segment. It's like Seiko and Rolex. Both tell time, but they have fundamentally different attributes.
Interesting point about access to service. I live in Toronto, the most populous city in Canada. We have three LR dealers and two independent shops specializing in LR service. That may sound acceptable, but practically, it's pretty much an oligopoly. You can forget about shopping around.
My LR broke down last summer. Just wouldn't start. I had it towed to my dealer. It was a failed alternator. Simply enough. But, they were so busy they didn't get around to diagnosing it for three days, and then it took another couple days to get the part in and installed.
Most any shop could take care of a yota
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Whiplash Willy
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If you guys want a reliable Land Rover, you should give Jonathan Ward a call!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWYVOmn27jI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWYVOmn27jI
Considering you can have a Touareg for $40k with some haggling, a Cayenne is way more expensive.
Also, Im talking about reliability-wise. Its gotta be more reliable than a LR/RR and even moreso than a Cayenne.
That being said, its pretty decent off road and who cares who has been seen in them the most? Image isnt everything.
I was just being facetious about the soccer moms.
IMO, a 1982 Skoda should be more reliable than a LR, at least my old LR.
1engineer
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Shhhhhhh.... don't say that so loud! People will hear you lol. /s
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