have a 2 month old 06 and i have swirls!!

[nauticalniremor]

This is the second time I have washed the car since i got it on July 1st. The first time i washed it I just washed, dried and waxed it with Meguiars. Looked great. Today I did more - i washed, dried, and applied Crystal Glo Paint polish. I did the roof then wiped it off then applied it to the hood, then wiped it off. Upon a closer look, or when the light hit it just right, i saw swirls!! Lots of them!! I have heard lots of good things about this stuff so i figured i would give it a try. I am not sure why it would swirl - do you guys??? The car was in the shade and cool, i have professional applicators and stuff. Do you think it was the product?? I didnt even look at the roof, i was going to toss cookies after looking at the hood!! Even without the swirls, i was not impressed with the "shine" it should produce. I went ahead and finished the car without the polish and just the wax and the shine looked the same to me!!

What can i do to get out the swirls?? Make it something easy to understand cuz i am dumb sometimes :bash:

Any help would be appreciated. What polish do you guys use and how do i get out the swirls? Here is a link to the product. http://crystal-glo.com/Merchant2/me...e=Store#2500&Product_Code=2000&Category_Code=

 

[toybox]

First off make sure you are using microfiber towels or 100% cotton towels with the hard edges cut off.

When I wash, and this would be more important for dark colors, I use two buckets; one with soapy water and one with clean water to rinse it before soaping it again.

Then you should polish. Griot's garage has some good polishes but I'm sure you can fing Meguires more easily. I would use their mildest polish.

After polishing THEN you can wax/seal with a good wax or Zaino's which I find to be the best. Your car will have a very deep shine that you will be very impressed with. This does require a lot of time and effort, but when done right and throughly it will last for half a year (at least the Zaino's does)

Oh and don't forget to clay the truck in between the wash and the polish stage.

 

[nauticalniremor]

First off make sure you are using microfiber towels or 100% cotton towels with the hard edges cut off.

When I wash, and this would be more important for dark colors, I use two buckets; one with soapy water and one with clean water to rinse it before soaping it again.

Then you should polish. Griot's garage has some good polishes but I'm sure you can fing Meguires more easily. I would use their mildest polish.

After polishing THEN you can wax/seal with a good wax or Zaino's which I find to be the best. Your car will have a very deep shine that you will be very impressed with. This does require a lot of time and effort, but when done right and throughly it will last for half a year (at least the Zaino's does)

Oh and don't forget to clay the truck in between the wash and the polish stage.

I have the same towels and i have the two buckets. How often would i clay the car?? WOuld the clay remove the swirls? Thanks for the info

 

[toybox]

I have the same towels and i have the two buckets. How often would i clay the car?? WOuld the clay remove the swirls? Thanks for the info

Clay initially and then as long as you keep it waxed you could probably just do this once a year or once evrey other year. The clay may help the scratches but I don't think that is the primary intent when using it. Polishing gets the scratches out. Some wax/sealer will fill in light scratches but not really remove them. Zaino's for instance makes different polishes; one for a paint without any scratches and one for paint with light scratches. I prefer to remove them rather than fill them in.

 

[rook]

do you have swirls that appear to have been made by a rotary buffer? If so, bring it back to your salesman and have the shop run a 3-m finishing pad with dark car glaze over the swirls and they will be gone. If be bawks, tell him you are still waiting to get the customer satisfaction survey, and this would make it easier to answer excellent on all the categories.

if the swirls are from your own hand, go to a body shop supply store and get 3-m hand glaze, it will take the swirls away, followed by a good carnauba wax. use a linear motion when applying, this should take care of them.

stay away from clay, it is a lot of work for little results given the age of your paint finish. use it when you can "feel" pieces of debris (industrial fallout) on the paint surface that are not removed by washing and waxing.

 

[toybox]

stay away from clay, it is a lot of work for little results given the age of your paint finish. use it when you can "feel" pieces of debris (industrial fallout) on the paint surface that are not removed by washing and waxing.

I disagree, my brand new truck had stuff I could feel before claying. Afterwards it was slippery smooth.

IMO, you should start from a totally clean slate, meaning I would do all the steps the first time around. Claying will make waxing easier the first time and will make future cleanings better and easier.

There is no doubt in my mind that claying is worthwhile and effective right from the start.

 

[4RunnerRon]

Never heard of Crystal Glo Paint Polish... perhaps you didn't remove all of the residue? If you have swirls that won't come out, try some of Meguiar's Paint Cleaner. It will remove light swirls. Then you can use Meguiar's Polish to restore the deep gloss. Then protect it all using Meguiars Yellow Wax (or similar). I like Meguiars, but you don't have to use it. Some prefer Mothers products, Zaino, etc. I just have experience with Meguiars and have been happy with it. No swirls in my 06 Galactic Gray!

As for clay bar, it works great, but if you do it, do it as step 1 before the paint cleaner, polish, and wax. Once you get the paint super smooth and all the swirls out, it will just be a matter of maintenance waxes to keep it all protected.

 

[nauticalniremor]

Never heard of Crystal Glo Paint Polish... perhaps you didn't remove all of the residue? If you have swirls that won't come out, try some of Meguiar's Paint Cleaner. It will remove light swirls. Then you can use Meguiar's Polish to restore the deep gloss. Then protect it all using Meguiars Yellow Wax (or similar). I like Meguiars, but you don't have to use it. Some prefer Mothers products, Zaino, etc. I just have experience with Meguiars and have been happy with it. No swirls in my 06 Galactic Gray!

As for clay bar, it works great, but if you do it, do it as step 1 before the paint cleaner, polish, and wax. Once you get the paint super smooth and all the swirls out, it will just be a matter of maintenance waxes to keep it all protected.

Maybe you are right, maybe i didnt get it all off. I did look again and it is more like dark circles if that makes sense. I only did the roof and the hood so its not the whole truck. I have been using meguiars so far and like it. It is raining today and does everyday during the summer, so washing it regularly right now isn't gonna happen. I think i will do the clay deal once the "winter" hits.

Thanks everyone for all your help - I really appreciate it. I have some shopping to do now!!

EMK

 

[rook]

I disagree, my brand new truck had stuff I could feel before claying. Afterwards it was slippery smooth.

IMO, you should start from a totally clean slate, meaning I would do all the steps the first time around. Claying will make waxing easier the first time and will make future cleanings better and easier.

There is no doubt in my mind that claying is worthwhile and effective right from the start.

Having worked on the finishes of hundreds of cars, claying is not worth the time it takes. Much of what is being removed can easily be wiped away with a light solvent or cleaner wax in a fraction of the time. Any new car owner should not have to clay until insoluble contaminants accumulate over time.

 

[toybox]

Having worked on the finishes of hundreds of cars, claying is not worth the time it takes. Much of what is being removed can easily be wiped away with a light solvent or cleaner wax in a fraction of the time. Any new car owner should not have to clay until insoluble contaminants accumulate over time.

I don't see how your method would be a "fraction of the time" compared to claying since all I'm basically doing is just wiping with the clay, just as you would have to do with a solvent. I really don't spend a lot of time claying, washing and sealing take up most of the time detailing.

 

[Jacobzky]

clay is way ahead of your solvent cleaner

claying is the best way to get rid of fine debris stuck in your finish, all this time i thought my truck is clean, until i clay just recently. actually right after clay alone, made my finish slick and smooth to the touch.

any pro detailers you asked wil definitely pick clay as opposed to your cleaner wax. i've witnessed it myself. beacuse i experienced it first hand. right here----> clayed 4runner

you dont have to take my word for it, goole around about etailing cars and you'll see.