Heated seat wire harness part number?
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Ezekiel2222
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More like $1300. As I said, the aftermarket kits are a fraction of the price.
The shop wanted like $70 an hour, and it took them about 6 hours to complete.
I'm pretty sure the parts I ordered are actually listed as 2013 parts. Scroll up to one of my earlier posts, I think it mentions it.
Edit: Here's the link I was referring too: http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_U_201310_TOYOTA_4RUNNER_GRN285L-GKAGKA_8202.8.html
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Danimal
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Well, not quite. If it's port installed, then I agree, there's likely no provison or existing harnesses. However, Toyota seems more liberal than most with including plugs/harnesses for factory options in the standard wiring harness.
My favorite example of this was the expensive A-Trac option in early FJ Cruisers - which could be added to a non A-Trac equipped FJ by way of a $40 A-Trac button from the dealer. Harness, computer, everything was present, but they left off the button to entice owners to spec up.
It's all a business case: reduced harness cost at the expense of proliferation. It can go either way depending on the financial analysis.
Ezekiel2222
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I guess I looked at it this way:
A Trail Premium with KDSS is $40,540 MSRP. A standard Trail with KDSS and Entune is $38,455 MSRP. That's a difference of almost $2100. I only spent about $1700 total to get the heated seats I wanted. So in a sense, I saved $400, and I don't have to worry about a sunroof or fake leather seats that I didn't want.
At least that's what I keep telling myself...
A Trail Premium with KDSS is $40,540 MSRP. A standard Trail with KDSS and Entune is $38,455 MSRP. That's a difference of almost $2100. I only spent about $1700 total to get the heated seats I wanted. So in a sense, I saved $400, and I don't have to worry about a sunroof or fake leather seats that I didn't want.
At least that's what I keep telling myself...
rigtec
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"...And here are the results! ...Standing by for comments or questions"
No questions but here's a comment Ezekiel,
WOW! What a write-up! This instructional conversion should, without question, be among the referential threads on this message board as a 'STICKY'.
"You've done a great job here; it's the first I've seen of it's kind on the subject, so glad you've posted it!"
rigtec, :cheers:
I realize this is an older thread, but it's the closest to what I'm looking for...
I'm currently negotiating for a 2016 4Runner Trail or Trail Premium.
In Pittsburgh, the only way I can get a Trail Premium is with KDSS.
So, the difference is $3800 between the 2 (T vs TP).
I've read the 4000 posts about KDSS vs. non-KDSS, so we won't get into that.
I drive about 5k miles a year, a lot of it to / from ski resorts.
So 1/2 highway and 1/2 city.
Mostly snow, with some light off road trips.
I've driven both, and I don't really care about KDSS.
All I really want is factory heated seats.
But, leather would be nice...
A friend of mine has a wrecked 2012 4Runner SR5 with Heated Leather seats (Black).
Are 2016 Trail seats the exact same as 2012 SR5 seats, other than the coverings?
Based on my research, the heated seat elements appear to be the same between 2012 and 2015 (2016 info not available...).
The switches are different, but visually they appear to be the same.
I'm thinking I'd put the 2012 covers and heating elements on my 2016 seats.
My buddy lives out west and I'd rather just ship the covers / elements, not the entire seats...
Thoughts?
Thank you.
Tom
I'm currently negotiating for a 2016 4Runner Trail or Trail Premium.
In Pittsburgh, the only way I can get a Trail Premium is with KDSS.
So, the difference is $3800 between the 2 (T vs TP).
I've read the 4000 posts about KDSS vs. non-KDSS, so we won't get into that.
I drive about 5k miles a year, a lot of it to / from ski resorts.
So 1/2 highway and 1/2 city.
Mostly snow, with some light off road trips.
I've driven both, and I don't really care about KDSS.
All I really want is factory heated seats.
But, leather would be nice...
A friend of mine has a wrecked 2012 4Runner SR5 with Heated Leather seats (Black).
Are 2016 Trail seats the exact same as 2012 SR5 seats, other than the coverings?
Based on my research, the heated seat elements appear to be the same between 2012 and 2015 (2016 info not available...).
The switches are different, but visually they appear to be the same.
I'm thinking I'd put the 2012 covers and heating elements on my 2016 seats.
My buddy lives out west and I'd rather just ship the covers / elements, not the entire seats...
Thoughts?
Thank you.
Tom
Jack Morrow
New member
Heated leather Katzkins are great. Should be $1200 - $1500 installed by a good shop. I have black leather with red stitching and they look factory. Very satisfied. Like you, I didn't want the sunroof.
Alaska_4Runner
Member
Doing this!!!
The wife's one regret not having heated seats on our 2012 4Runner. After reading through this, I think we can finally make it happen.
if anyone has personally done this MOD, I have a couple questions.
1.) Did it require to pull up the carpet to feed the cables through the center console?
2.) How do you read the fuse block to install the fuse?
3.) Was the hardest part pulling the seats apart?
Looks good, can't wait to get this done before the bitter PNW winter arrives.
The wife's one regret not having heated seats on our 2012 4Runner. After reading through this, I think we can finally make it happen.
if anyone has personally done this MOD, I have a couple questions.
1.) Did it require to pull up the carpet to feed the cables through the center console?
2.) How do you read the fuse block to install the fuse?
3.) Was the hardest part pulling the seats apart?
Looks good, can't wait to get this done before the bitter PNW winter arrives.
Alaska_4Runner
Member
OEM Heater Install 2012 4Runner
[MENTION=115178]Ezekiel2222[/MENTION] Thanks for asking the tough questions, Ive been interested in doing this to my 2012 4Runner for sometime and its great to see that its actually possible.
I have a question:
What year 4Runner parts did you order?
Which website did you order from?
Do you have a copy of your receipt?
and what advice would you give for tackling this MOD yourself?
[MENTION=115178]Ezekiel2222[/MENTION] Thanks for asking the tough questions, Ive been interested in doing this to my 2012 4Runner for sometime and its great to see that its actually possible.
I have a question:
What year 4Runner parts did you order?
Which website did you order from?
Do you have a copy of your receipt?
and what advice would you give for tackling this MOD yourself?
Ezekiel2222
New member
[MENTION=133328]Alaska_4Runner[/MENTION]
Sorry for the slow response, I don't really monitor this forum nearly as much as I used to. Believe it or not, I already answered most of the questions you asked earlier in the thread, but they can be easily missed.
What year 4Runner parts did you order?
Which website did you order from?
Do you have a copy of your receipt?
Probably somewhere, I'd check but I'm at work right now.
What advice would you give for tackling this MOD yourself?
See the last quote above.
In reference to your question from my other thread:
But I must ask, if everything is plug & play... where does the final plug go? What gives the seats power? Where do I make that final connection?
Again, I did not perform the install myself, but my understanding from talking to the guys at the car audio shop who did the work, they didn't have to do anything special. Literally everything was plug and play. I think the key here is you have to start off with the right version of 4Runner. The fact that you have a 2012 might make things more complex/impossible, or it might be the same wiring as a 2013/14/15, I really don't know. All I know is the power/control hookups were already present under my seats, so all the shop had to do was replace the wiring harness on the seat itself, and add the heating pads and control modules. Also it's key to point out that as far as I know, you need to have a Trail, not an SR5, in order for the short wire harness in the center console to work plug-and-play. I remember reading a thread on this forum, way back when I started doing research for this project, of a guy who added the OEM switches to his SR5, but he had to manually run power lines or something into the center console and splice them into the wiring harness to get the switches to work, or something like that. The Trail center console seems to already have all the appropriate power and signal lines present, so it's just a matter of swapping out the harness and adding the switches.
Sorry I can't give more detailed information. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll do my best to answer.
Sorry for the slow response, I don't really monitor this forum nearly as much as I used to. Believe it or not, I already answered most of the questions you asked earlier in the thread, but they can be easily missed.
What year 4Runner parts did you order?
Which website did you order from?
And here are the results!
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That's it for the pictures. For those of you looking to do a similar mod, I have a few words of advice:
I bought all the parts from http://www.toyotaonlineparts.com. There are many other parts sites out there, but I found this one to be the cheapest, even if it was only by a few cents on some parts. With that said, you will quickly see that these parts are QUITE expensive. Aftermarket options are a fraction of the cost, and may work just as well for you, so unless you are super-picky about keeping everything OEM like I am, you may want to look elsewhere. With that said, the tech that installed them said he had never see seat heaters like this, that go all the way to the top of the seat, and even cover the side bolsters. Are they nicer than aftermarket? Yes. Are they worth the extra cost? That's up to you.
If you choose to attempt the install yourself, be aware that it will be significantly harder than installing aftermarket options. The shop I took it to severely underestimated how long it would take. They had to fully disassemble each seat to replace the wire harnesses, and since these OEM pads are much larger than aftermarket ones, they had to fully remove the seat covers so they could position the pads properly. With that said, everything is plug-and-play, so there's no need to cut wires, solder stuff, or make your own harnesses.
Lastly, if you decide to let a shop do the install for you, be sure you call them ahead of time, explain what you are trying to do, and make sure they are willing to do the job. I also personally showed the shop tech what each piece was, and how they connected together. They did a great job, so I'm glad I went with the shop I did.
Standing by for comments or questions
Do you have a copy of your receipt?
Probably somewhere, I'd check but I'm at work right now.
What advice would you give for tackling this MOD yourself?
See the last quote above.
In reference to your question from my other thread:
But I must ask, if everything is plug & play... where does the final plug go? What gives the seats power? Where do I make that final connection?
Again, I did not perform the install myself, but my understanding from talking to the guys at the car audio shop who did the work, they didn't have to do anything special. Literally everything was plug and play. I think the key here is you have to start off with the right version of 4Runner. The fact that you have a 2012 might make things more complex/impossible, or it might be the same wiring as a 2013/14/15, I really don't know. All I know is the power/control hookups were already present under my seats, so all the shop had to do was replace the wiring harness on the seat itself, and add the heating pads and control modules. Also it's key to point out that as far as I know, you need to have a Trail, not an SR5, in order for the short wire harness in the center console to work plug-and-play. I remember reading a thread on this forum, way back when I started doing research for this project, of a guy who added the OEM switches to his SR5, but he had to manually run power lines or something into the center console and splice them into the wiring harness to get the switches to work, or something like that. The Trail center console seems to already have all the appropriate power and signal lines present, so it's just a matter of swapping out the harness and adding the switches.
Sorry I can't give more detailed information. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll do my best to answer.
zonzin
Member
Has anyone tried these off ebay?
They look like they have everything needed to install in my '15 Trail.
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They look like they have everything needed to install in my '15 Trail.
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maximus.stugots
New member
I just installed a set of factory heated leather seats in my 2015 SR5. The two switches and the wire switch listed here was all I needed to make it work. As far as the heated seat switches go, just pop them in place of the blanks in the console. The wire switch replaces the small harness in the console. It has the two plugs for the heated switches and the third plug is for the power rear window. That's it, swap out that harness and you have heated seats. It took an hour to remove and install all of the seats. Then about 15 minutes to get the heated seats working. Thanks for the part numbers..
Alaska_4Runner
Member
Happy to hear this worked!
[MENTION=155194]maximus.stugots[/MENTION] you installed factory leather seats or you installed the seat heaters into your leather seats? if its the ladder, how did you route the cables to the vehicle to have power? do you have that part number for the "Wire Switch" with two plugs for the "Wire Switch" with three plugs?
going to be lame and ask for what part numbers you used.
[MENTION=155194]maximus.stugots[/MENTION] you installed factory leather seats or you installed the seat heaters into your leather seats? if its the ladder, how did you route the cables to the vehicle to have power? do you have that part number for the "Wire Switch" with two plugs for the "Wire Switch" with three plugs?
going to be lame and ask for what part numbers you used.
Heated Seats added to 2017 SR5...almost.
First, thanks to Ezekiel2222 for creating the complete parts list.
After a bit of research I decided to pull the trigger on the OEM parts to add heated seats to the wife's SR5. As a part of my research, I examined her truck and found the 20A fuse already in the correct circuit.(check) I looked at the harness going to the passenger seat and found five wires connected to a dummy plug (check).
I ordered all of the parts. Everything arrived so I started working.
Not a bad job. I took my time and spent about 2 hours on each seat and everything went smoothly. On to the wiring. Swapping out the console harness and dropping the switches in went quickly and easily.
After reconnecting the battery and starting the truck I checked all of the driver seat controls and the rear window switch to make sure the original stuff was still working. Everything worked just fine. I held my breath and turned on the driver seat heat switch and was relieved to see it light up. I waited a couple of minutes and turned on the passenger heat switch. It also lit up as expected. I turned on the interior lights and both switches were backlit as they should be.
So at this point I am feeling pretty good about the install. :guitar3:
That was until I waited for the seats to heat up...
The wife is in the passenger seat commenting on how nicely it is heating up while I am still waiting to feel ANY difference in the driver seat. After about 10-15 minutes the passenger seat is toasty and the driver seat is only warm from me sitting there.
After a few choice words and multiple checks of all the connections I discovered that the driver seat harness (that I did not check) only has the power wires for the heaters.:redbrick:
Can anyone help me create the missing part of the circuit? I am hoping that the answer is as simple as tapping into three wires behind the driver kick panel.
From pouring over the forums it seems to me that I need to supply the switching wires and the thermal feedback wire to the harness for the control module to work but I may be very wrong.
First, thanks to Ezekiel2222 for creating the complete parts list.
After a bit of research I decided to pull the trigger on the OEM parts to add heated seats to the wife's SR5. As a part of my research, I examined her truck and found the 20A fuse already in the correct circuit.(check) I looked at the harness going to the passenger seat and found five wires connected to a dummy plug (check).
I ordered all of the parts. Everything arrived so I started working.
Not a bad job. I took my time and spent about 2 hours on each seat and everything went smoothly. On to the wiring. Swapping out the console harness and dropping the switches in went quickly and easily.
After reconnecting the battery and starting the truck I checked all of the driver seat controls and the rear window switch to make sure the original stuff was still working. Everything worked just fine. I held my breath and turned on the driver seat heat switch and was relieved to see it light up. I waited a couple of minutes and turned on the passenger heat switch. It also lit up as expected. I turned on the interior lights and both switches were backlit as they should be.
So at this point I am feeling pretty good about the install. :guitar3:
That was until I waited for the seats to heat up...
The wife is in the passenger seat commenting on how nicely it is heating up while I am still waiting to feel ANY difference in the driver seat. After about 10-15 minutes the passenger seat is toasty and the driver seat is only warm from me sitting there.
After a few choice words and multiple checks of all the connections I discovered that the driver seat harness (that I did not check) only has the power wires for the heaters.:redbrick:
Can anyone help me create the missing part of the circuit? I am hoping that the answer is as simple as tapping into three wires behind the driver kick panel.
From pouring over the forums it seems to me that I need to supply the switching wires and the thermal feedback wire to the harness for the control module to work but I may be very wrong.
Alaska_4Runner
Member
Pictures are worth a thousand words
[MENTION=141573]Techflyer[/MENTION] thank you for writing about your install. When I first became interested in this modification I too looked at the fuse panel to determine if it were possible and found a 20a fuse, so I'm hopeful. After reading your post, you're providing a lot of great information that Id like to ask you to expand on.
You said you took about two hours per seat, do you have leather and was it difficult to pull them apart? Any tricks or advice you'd give for someone looking to tackle the same modification? Had you taken any pictures during the install?
Secondly, could you go into more detail about the issues with the driver's side? Honestly, I would go as far as providing my phone number and getting a walk through because this is something I am CONSTANTLY being hounded about from my wife. If you send a PM I'd reply with my number for more information. Is this as easy as plug and play (minus this one missing part)?
Lastly, if you could confirm what part numbers on your wife's SR5 (what year?).
PART NUMBER PART NAME DESCRIPTION
87510-60550 x2 - Seat Heater Pad (the thing your butt sits on)
87510-60560 x2 - Seat Back Frame (confusing name, it's the back heater pad)
87501-60050 x2 - Seat Heater Control Module (required to hook up the pads)
82192-35020 - WIRE, FR SEAT, LH (drivers side seat wire harness)
82191-35030 - WIRE, FR SEAT, RH (passenger side seat wire harness)
82223-35100 - WIRE, SWITCH (center console wire harness)
84751-35130 - Seat Heater Switch (left-hand switch)
84751-35140 - Seat Heater Switch (right hand switch)
Thank you again!
[MENTION=141573]Techflyer[/MENTION] thank you for writing about your install. When I first became interested in this modification I too looked at the fuse panel to determine if it were possible and found a 20a fuse, so I'm hopeful. After reading your post, you're providing a lot of great information that Id like to ask you to expand on.
You said you took about two hours per seat, do you have leather and was it difficult to pull them apart? Any tricks or advice you'd give for someone looking to tackle the same modification? Had you taken any pictures during the install?
Secondly, could you go into more detail about the issues with the driver's side? Honestly, I would go as far as providing my phone number and getting a walk through because this is something I am CONSTANTLY being hounded about from my wife. If you send a PM I'd reply with my number for more information. Is this as easy as plug and play (minus this one missing part)?
Lastly, if you could confirm what part numbers on your wife's SR5 (what year?).
PART NUMBER PART NAME DESCRIPTION
87510-60550 x2 - Seat Heater Pad (the thing your butt sits on)
87510-60560 x2 - Seat Back Frame (confusing name, it's the back heater pad)
87501-60050 x2 - Seat Heater Control Module (required to hook up the pads)
82192-35020 - WIRE, FR SEAT, LH (drivers side seat wire harness)
82191-35030 - WIRE, FR SEAT, RH (passenger side seat wire harness)
82223-35100 - WIRE, SWITCH (center console wire harness)
84751-35130 - Seat Heater Switch (left-hand switch)
84751-35140 - Seat Heater Switch (right hand switch)
Thank you again!
