Help Me Decide - 2018 Lexus GX or 2018 4Runner Limited

I work in outside sales and the lease my cars due to the tax right off. The GX deal is fairly sweet. $4k Out of Pocket and $499 a month including taxes and fees.

I have had prices all over the board on the 4Runner Limited which I am now looking at based on the feature set. Tomorrow the wife and I are going to drive both trucks again and make our decision.

The negative factors for me on the GX is it is the last model year before the redesign. So I will have the current style for three years before the upgrade. For the 4Runner, its the tiny ass Navi unit. I utilize my Navi quite a bit when I travel. Other than that there are apples and oranges on both sides.

Decisions, Decisions....
 
Maybe someone who's driven the GX can address this.

I'm on an extended vaca road trip ... today I drove from Charlotte up through the Appalachians in some seriously high wind gusts..... and boy did I get blown around. I have always noticed the 4R is susceptible to cross- and -head winds.

Is the GX better planted?

If I highway drove a lot, I'm thinking the GX might be the better choice. Especially in mountains/big hills ... the 4R has the power but you have to keep after it.

Also - doesn't the GX want premium gas?
 
I considered the GX. The rear hatch that swings to the wrong side was a no go. If it opened the other way it would have been a hard decision.
 
Maybe someone who's driven the GX can address this.

I'm on an extended vaca road trip ... today I drove from Charlotte up through the Appalachians in some seriously high wind gusts..... and boy did I get blown around. I have always noticed the 4R is susceptible to cross- and -head winds.

Is the GX better planted?

If I highway drove a lot, I'm thinking the GX might be the better choice. Especially in mountains/big hills ... the 4R has the power but you have to keep after it.

Also - doesn't the GX want premium gas?

GX has KDSS which means that on-road, it’s anti-roll bar(s) is more stout...which may help in those winds?? It also has (optional) adaptive suspension.

And in the mountains, it is hard to beat a stout V8 with torque to match.

Gas = premium required.
 
I am leaning towards the 4Runner as well. So that is the next question, Limited or TRD Pro?

I didn't read the whole thread but will throw in my two cents.

If you are going to build it then don't get the PRO appearance package. Get the Trail/Off Road, which is the same truck as the PRO minus all the appearance stuff, and save thousands.

The Limited is just nice and if you are stuck between the limited or the PRO only, get the Limited.
 
Hey Everyone-

I have two solid quotes in front of me for two solid rides. 2018 Lexus GX and 2018 Limited 4Runner. I love both trucks and the rides are damn comparable. Pricing aside, what would you lean to? Of course this is 4Runner forum but I want to get you thoughts.

I am leaning towards the GX but love the functionality of the 4Runner.

What are your thoughts?

TR
I looked at the GX before buying a 4Runner last year. I liked the v8
I didn't like: the 3rd row seat for little people, the rear seats that didn't lay flat, the cattle gate rear door that swung the wrong way, 2nd row captains chairs that leave gaps in cargo area when folded down, premium fuel required.
 
As a 2018 Limited Owner, i would highly recommend the GX. The ride is a lot smother, the included 3rd row, the comfort features are beyond and above the 4runner. I really have to say that i regret not getting the GX as it feels like you're riding a horse while driving the 4runner. Its so bouncy and all over the place not to mention the horrible gas mileage (14MPG).

Some of the features in the limited makes you wonder how the hell can Toyota sell you a $45K SUV and not include some basic features that come in their other SUVs.
 
I considered the GX. The rear hatch that swings to the wrong side was a no go. If it opened the other way it would have been a hard decision.

That, and the roll down window make the 4Runner MUCH more useful. I looked at the GX but dismissed it because of those two issues.
 
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I just went through the same dilemma, and decided on the GX (used 2015). it is hands down better in almost every way. I came from a V6 4th Gen for what its worth but still. the ride quality is far superior. the technology blows Toyota away. the ultra smooth V8 power on the freeway is heaven. the seats are way more comfortable. it comes with a great warranty which includes a few services. services wont be much more than any Toyota and you can do most yourself. the LED headlights make seeing at night easy. it takes all of the suspension parts from a 5th gen so you can get a lift if you wish. i may eventually go with the Bilstein 5100s just to level it off. frontrunner makes a no-drill rack for it if you do a lot of camping. the navigation/sound is way better. you get the Lexus app suite too so you can use yelp/destination assist to find places easier. live traffic on the nav, it has routed me around accidents a few times now. a few cons:
  • lack of storage space. the 4Runner had a lot more pockets and nooks to hide stuff.
  • the back window and rear camera get dirty much quicker the way its designed
  • the USB ports / mp3 hook up is in a horrible spot. you will have to re-route them if you use them. I moved it to the glove box
  • premium gas
  • 3rd row is kind of useless. I have no need for it so I laid them flat
  • cargo area is about the same size as the 4Runner. Would have been nice o get a little more space back here. It is taller though so feels bigger.
  • some may list this as a con, the barn style door. I actually don't mind it and find it easier to load/unload. especially in my garage. I don't have to worry about hitting the top of my garage.
  • the rear window does not roll down for dogs. my pup is sad about this
  • some wasted space. there is a lot of technology but I think they could have done a better job of organizing it. the heads up display basically has everything but you have to scroll through them. they should have displayed outside temp and fuel to empty or other things near the climate control section.

these cons though do not outweigh the pros.
I went used cause I found a lease return that was only 2 1/2 years old and 28k miles on it. it came with Lexus warranty. Lexus certified pre-owned warranty and I added 3 years to it. new was $25k more so I couldn't justify the cost

[MENTION=51186]philsey[/MENTION] yes, it handles way better in the wind. I noticed this morning driving in to work. premium gas is required. I live in Denver at a higher elevation so I have only been doing 87 (dealership backed this up). They said I can even do 85, I tried for one tank and it was a clear difference in ride quality. the MPGs are about the same as they were on my 08' 4Runner but gas is over $6/tank more.
 
OP, or anyone who is considering both vehicles and is on the fence, send me a PM if you want feedback from someone who has owned both a current model GX and two ‘14 + 5th gen limiteds. I am not willing to post my opinion on this here because I have no interest in getting involved in a which is better thread, but a lot of the claims in this thread are based on assumptions and are completely unfound.
 
OP, or anyone who is considering both vehicles and is on the fence, send me a PM if you want feedback from someone who has owned both a current model GX and two ‘14 + 5th gen limiteds. I am not willing to post my opinion on this here because I have no interest in getting involved in a which is better thread, but a lot of the claims in this thread are based on assumptions and are completely unfound.

Ashame you have to go the PM route but I see why you are doing it. Would be beneficial for both members and non-members to know actually real-world usage of both vehicles...
 
[MENTION=45107]Threev8s[/MENTION] this is a forum / thread asking for opinions. seems like the best place to post yours
 
Ashame you have to go the PM route but I see why you are doing it. Would be beneficial for both members and non-members to know actually real-world usage of both vehicles...


[MENTION=45107]Threev8s[/MENTION] this is a forum / thread asking for opinions. seems like the best place to post yours

You’re both right. I can go on for days about the differences, and I’ve responded to PMs previously about this, but I don’t want to bore everyone with an essay. At the same time, I don’t want anyone to feel like I am bashing their vehicle.

Just a few stand-out items from my perspective:

Handling/Braking:
The GX with KDSS does not compare in on-road handling to the limited with X-REAS. And no, a GX will definitely not do better in a crosswind. I’ve been in them with both. The GX is under-sprung at best. Also, the brakes in the gx feel non-existent compared to the 4r. Weight is a big part of this, but the Lexus pedal feel does not help.

Engine:
The 4.6 is not the beast so many claim it is. Highway passing times are identical to the limited with the 4.0 based on car and driver testing equipment. Again, keep in mind the weight difference. Yes, there is more low-end torque and the gx will get to 60 slightly faster, but it barely feels like a v8 and seems to have more trouble on highway inclines than the 4.0. It literally loses speed without a serious kickdown whereas the 4.0 is happy to maintain speed in 4th (selected by the vehicle, not me). Neither compares to the old 4.7 in terms of driving pleasure, but both are great motors.

Accoutrements/liveability:
A base GX comes with way less in terms of “bells and whistles” than a limited. Nav, leather, heated seats, parking sensors, fog lights, etc. are not standard on the GX. Also, and call this a quibble if you’d like, but you can’t see the outside temp and anything else (mpg, range, etc.) on the gauge display at the same time. The only place that the GX truly outperforms the 4r is the headlights. Those LEDs are excellent. Also the ride is more isolated in the GX, but that doesn’t mean that it’s better. That is truly a preference, and it suffers in the aforementioned areas because if it. The ride with the Limited’s 245/60R20s can feel jittery, but there are a few good tires in the stock size that do way better than what the factory gives you (yoko or dueler 684s). Plus, you can always mount one of the other stock 4R 17s and have a ton of tire choices.

Appearance:
Personal preference, but we all know which one looks more like something you’d want to take on a journey. One last item, the running boards on the GX are great if you or your passengers need them, but do nothing for the aesthetics.

Intangibles:
People are less likely to let you merge and more likely to think you are a DB in a GX, if that matters to you.

They are both great vehicles, but the 4runner, in my opinion, is much more suited to people who are in tune with their vehicles and like driving, using power tools, etc. Also, I do not do any of what the off-road crowd considers off-roading, so this is purely from the perspective of daily use. I hope this helps.
 
[MENTION=45107]Threev8s[/MENTION] lots of valid points. some good some bad. all your opinion so nothing wrong there

Braking:
I think both vehicles struggle here. The weight and size make it difficult.

Engine:
I have not had a chance yet to take it to the mtns. Freeway though I feel much more comfortable in the GX vs. the 4Runner. Especially getting on the freeway and merging (if people would let me over :biggrin1:)

Accoutrements/livability:
100% agree with the display. Really poor design here.

the rest I disagree with. saying the GX is only for DBs who don't use power tools and only care about appearances. this is very wrong.
 
[MENTION=45107]Threev8s[/MENTION]
the rest I disagree with. saying the GX is only for DBs who don't use power tools and only care about appearances. this is very wrong.

Is that really what you took from that? This is a perfect example of why I was hesitant to respond to this thread.
 
Car and Driver stats:

2016 GX
0-60 —— 7.0
5-60 —— 7.4
30-50 —- 3.7
50-70 —- 5.1
Curb weight = 5240
Fuel economy = 17 mpg overall during testing; 22 highway during testing.


2017 4runner
0-60 —— 7.5
5-60 —— 8.1
30-50 —- 4.0
50-70 —- 5.2
Curb weight = 4767
Fuel economy = 17 mpg overall during testing; 19 highway during testing.

So, despite weighing 500 lbs more than 4runner, the GX accelerates significantly faster and is slightly better in passing in top gear. Surprisingly, GX does better on gas too despite the V8 and weight...but part of that maybe because GX has 6-speed auto vs. 5-speed in 4runner.

FYI...and of course, there is also a large price gap b/w the two vehicles.
 
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Car and Driver stats:

2016 GX
0-60 —— 7.0

2017 4runner
0-60 —— 7.5

So, despite weighing 500 lbs more than 4runner, the GX accelerates significantly faster .....

Seriously Thai? You're gonna call .5 sec to 60 "significant"? Seriously?

That's at least $3000 per .1 sec for the neck-snapping experience. Bah!
 
After reading these posts and much contemplation, I think OP should go with the Raptor.:guitar2:
 

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