how to keep the fog lights on with high beams

[Kmvreter]

I'm investigating working on this mod to keep the fog light switch on the stalk functional. I need to get to connector C12 at the steering column. Besides obviously removing the lower bolts, how do you remove the drivers side lower dash panel? Does the top of it clip in and how do you get it away from the ignition key area without damaging it?

 

[ksneubec]

Another member posted this website, which should hopefully help. If you figure out how to get the fog lights on with only the parking lights, please set up a thread!

http://www.castulucci.com/projects/carpc/oemnaviaccess/

 

[Kmvreter]

ksneubec,
Thanks for the link to Randos work.

I'll be working on trying to get the fog lights to work with the current stalk switch but regardless of any other lights on.

 

[Hitman]

ksneubec,
Thanks for the link to Randos work.

I'll be working on trying to get the fog lights to work with the current stalk switch but regardless of any other lights on.

I have read the wiring schematic for the fog light circuit and the only way to make the foglights work independently of the headlights (and hibeams) with the factory switch is to ground the light blue wire in the combination switch. It is unclear on the schematic whether or not this is actually a wire or just a simple jumper. The connections are labeled 11 and 17 for each side of the light blue wire.

The only way to find out for sure is to remove the the combination switch (C12 - headlights, fog lights and dimmer) and check for the light blue wire. Unfortunately, I have not had time to remove mine to do this mod yet.

 

[Kmvreter]

I'm hoping that when I get to C12 I will be able to take pin #11 to #16 (or any ground) and not #17. Also want to take the fog light relay pin #2 away from the headlight fuse and put it with any other circuit that is hot on ignition (I'm planning to use pin #2 on the unused power inverter circuit). I might have to also use a diode in this line if I can't isolate it. All this last stuff should be easy to do in the engine bay fuse box. Keep you posted.

 

[Hitman]

I'm hoping that when I get to C12 I will be able to take pin #11 to #16 (or any ground) and not #17.

16 is the ground wire for the combination switch. It goes to J15 (junction connector) and then directly to a chassis ground in the kick panel.

Also want to take the fog light relay pin #2 away from the headlight fuse and put it with any other circuit that is hot on ignition (I'm planning to use pin #2 on the unused power inverter circuit). I might have to also use a diode in this line if I can't isolate it. All this last stuff should be easy to do in the engine bay fuse box. Keep you posted.

That will give you power to the fog light relay any time the ignition switch is on, but you'll still need to ground the combination switch in order for the original switch to control the foglights. If you end up pulling out the combination switch, snap a picture or two... I'd love to see what the wiring looks like.

 

[Kmvreter]

Yes, it's a 2 part mod: switch grounding and power source. I have the wiring diagrams. Hopefully I can get to it on the w/e if I find time.

 

[Kmvreter]

I need to get at connector C12 but was looking in the wrong location. It isn't under the lower dash but actually is on the steering column. Here's the catch: how do you get the steering column cover assembly apart? I took out the bottom screw and some of it clips apart but it won't come apart at the steering wheel end. Are there more screws hidden by the steering wheel?

 

[RXvedub]

turn the stearing wheel to the left, then right. there are 2 screw behing the wheel its self

 

[RXvedub]

DONE... I am putting a write up together with pics. Please hold for further assistance.

I got it to stay on with high beems and key on position. 2 Step process

 

[Hitman]

I need to get at connector C12 but was looking in the wrong location. It isn't under the lower dash but actually is on the steering column. Here's the catch: how do you get the steering column cover assembly apart? I took out the bottom screw and some of it clips apart but it won't come apart at the steering wheel end. Are there more screws hidden by the steering wheel?

Yeah, if I'm not mistaken you'll find C12 at the combination switch, which means you'll probably have to take the switch out.... This would be so much easier if Toyota didn't put the fog light switch on the headlight stalk!!

 

[RXvedub]

This write up is for fog lights to work with high beams only... not indipendantly.

Three screws from the colum cover.

you only need to remove the bottom half nothing els.

Disconect conector C12

Thies are the two wires you need to jump. white/black is the grond and the light blue (there are two, the one in the corner)

I souldered a small wire.

Finished product...looks factory huh??

I wanted to do this before i went out tonight incase anyone wanted to do it this weekend. I will put up the indipendant part of fog light control later this weekend.

 

[24runners]

This write up is for fog lights to work with high beams only... not indipendantly.

am i missing something? why go through all this to make the fog lights stay on with the high beams? I've already said you can ground one wire on the fog light relay and the fog lights will stay on with the high beams...took about 20 seconds to do. what does this mod do differently??

Am i completely missing it??

 

[RXvedub]

I've already said you can ground one wire on the fog light relay and the fog lights will stay on with the high beams...took about 20 seconds to do. what does this mod do differently??

Am i completely missing it??

Please take no affence I am going to be very blunt. The way you had said makes the fog light switch inop (waisting a controling feture and creating a dead switch) and frankly is was not clean, looked micky mouse.

 

[Cleric]

am i missing something? why go through all this to make the fog lights stay on with the high beams? I've already said you can ground one wire on the fog light relay and the fog lights will stay on with the high beams...took about 20 seconds to do. what does this mod do differently??

Am i completely missing it??

If you read the title of the thread, his solution answers that question 100%.

I still want to be able to control mine with the stock switch. If nobody does it before me, I will make mine be controlled to come on with the parking lights (if the switch is on) and stay on with the high beams. It sounds like "RXvedub" is planning on doing this, so I will wait to see what he comes up with before digging in.

 

[24runners]

no offense taken I wasnt trying to be rude....that is why i asked "am i completely missing it?"

i dont see any reason that I would ever want to turn them off...if my lights are on...high beam or low beam, I want my fog lights on....I wouldnt turn them off even if the switch did allow me too

personal preference....good job on tracking down the wires tho

If you read the title of the thread, his solution answers that question 100%.

the title of the thread is "how to keep the fog lights on with high beams"....which BOTH solutions do...

This write up is for fog lights to work with high beams only... not indipendantly.

sound like it does the exact same thing...fogs work with high beams...however RXvedub's reply clarified for me, as he says it will allow the stock fog switch to work....

btw, as far as the "mickey mouse" there are countless ways to make what I did look "clean"...I was just putting the information out there "ground this pin and the fogs stay on"...It was not intended to be a step by step "how-to"...I have wired mine so you can not even tell it is there....

I agree RXvedub's solution is more functional...but please take no offence I am going to be very blunt...it is simply not worth the time and dismantling for me...I am not 'bad mouthing' it...I'm just saying that its a little overkill for an advantage that I would never use (turning them off with the switch)

just MY personal view...i DO think it is an excellent mod if you want that control

 

[RXvedub]

The other reson i wanted the switch to work is because i also gave indipendant control of the fog lights too.

Write up here on indipendant control of fog lights.

Indipendant fog light write up thread

 

[24runners]

nice RXvedub...sounds like an excellent feature

i just might have to do that sometime

 

[Hitman]

I still want to be able to control mine with the stock switch. If nobody does it before me, I will make mine be controlled to come on with the parking lights (if the switch is on) and stay on with the high beams. It sounds like "RXvedub" is planning on doing this, so I will wait to see what he comes up with before digging in.

This is exactly how I will be modifying mine to work...it's just that I haven't had the extra time to take it apart yet. But judging from the wiring diagrams, it seems easy enough...

 

[HardCharger]

I have HID and yellow fog lights. I love it espacialy since i used to be a Lexus tech.

I can get you guys the bulbs Nokya brand... best color... for $40 shipped. I work at a performance shop that sells this stuff.

If you want HIDs let me know.

Hey RXvedub, I would be interested in the HID's and Yellow Fogs. I sent you a PM. Let me know. Thanks.