I do not get it -- HID vs. the law

It’s hazard when you’re blinding other drivers on the road. If you don’t care because you need your blaring white bro lights you’re a dick. At least do everyone on the road a favor and re-align at the very least. I’m all for having great lighting and making your vehicle yours but not at the expense of others. Damn I’m getting old


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You're not getting old.

Just sucks to realize how many people simply don't give the smallest amount of a shit about the other people they share the earth with, and how their actions may impact others.

I just like to hope that those of us with some decency make up for the rest of the thoroughbred *******s out there.
 
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Add me to the list of grumpy old men.

I understand having good high beams and installing lightbars like you spend your weekends lamping but consider other drivers coming the other way.

Try driving in a different vehicle towards your own vehicle and that should tell you if you are being an arse or not.

Check out this fool, way too many vehicles that drive around like this. This hurts my eyes, but then it could just be my eyes.
 

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There are a ton of threads about LED/HID but I have not read one yet that addresses how are so many owners are putting in HID with no reservations of the legality. I get it that some states have no issue but at least here in Virginia it is different. Unless, the vehicle was bought with stock HID headlights, any aftermarket mods will not pass state inspection and have the possibility of getting stopped my the law. That is the whole thing that is stopping me from going from LED to HID. Thanks.
In VA every month for family and never been stopped. Also when I go up there to do my inspections, they never questioned or failed me for my HIDs or after market fogs. Also technically by law led bars must have covers but uh no thanks haha. It's not really enforced, I can see them using it against you if you act like an A-hole but other than that never been stopped for anything. Just reaim them so no one hates you, the cut off is sharp.
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"Enjoy your dictatorship of a state "

Dictatorship? Virginia is a great state. You live in Chicago and you're calling us names? I'll sell you a clue for a couple of bucks. :playball:
 
In socal and in particular where I live we have jackasses here that put all sorts of crap in their reflector headlights and never once have I seen them get rolled by the police. I think the sheriff's out here have better things to do than that.
 
In socal and in particular where I live we have jackasses here that put all sorts of crap in their reflector headlights and never once have I seen them get rolled by the police. I think the sheriff's out here have better things to do than that.

Well, if they pass someone with very bright lights, you can bet they'll be pulling around and making a stop. Some people use their led light bars on during daytime hours and what do you know...they are bright during the daytime too. Screw the people that do that. Heck, screw people that use "off-road only lights" on the road. Best part about it is that when an oncoming vehicle has crashes into you or veers off the road due to blatantly-blinding lights, you'll likely be held liable in a court of law once an inspection of your vehicle finds that your lights are not compliant.

Takes a fair amount of evidence, but well-worth it.
 
Add me to the list of grumpy old men.

I understand having good high beams and installing lightbars like you spend your weekends lamping but consider other drivers coming the other way.


Agreed, I have LED pods and a light bar, but I only use them on dark back roads when no one is coming towards me and shut them off the second I see headlights coming the other direction. I cannot stand people who put LED light pods or light bars on their vehicle and drive around during the day with them like they're DRL's or fog lights., So goddamn inconsiderate!
 
have a guy in the area and put in hid's for low and high. when he drives with his drl's on its blinding. sad part is, he doesn't care and wont stop.

but he did tint all of windows including the windshield so others lights wont bother him. I pass him almost every day
 
hahah

some of you guys will never grow up..

there's a very important role for these inspections and i totally get why they do it..



go live in mexico if you want to live in the wild west



Hahaha.

I’m plenty grown up and I assure you my line of work gives me far more perspective on what matters than most.

I have to do emissions testing every other year. Thank god for that or I’d for sure be living in Mexico...God forbid my exhaust wasn’t stock...

I get the point of it to a degree. Good tires. Safe brakes. All that stuff. But come on...shaking people down for a different light bulb, tinted windows, or non-OEM wiper blades. Total scam to the core. That’s beyond the realm of assessing safety. That’s the fleecing of pocket books, brother.


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"Enjoy your dictatorship of a state "



Dictatorship? Virginia is a great state. You live in Chicago and you're calling us names? I'll sell you a clue for a couple of bucks. :playball:



Far NW burb of Chicago...I’m 1.5 hours from Chicago and 20 minutes from Wisconsin...

And I’m not calling anyone names so chill out.

Damn people got all emotional in this one...

But yes, fining people for light bulbs is ridiculous. If you’re too blind to see that then hand over your hard-earned money.


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Damn people got all emotional in this one...

But yes, fining people for light bulbs is ridiculous. If you’re too blind to see that then hand over your hard-earned money.


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What are your thoughts on slow drivers in the slow lane?
How aboooooot hit and runs with no witnesses? Would you leave a note?
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Hahaha.

I’m plenty grown up and I assure you my line of work gives me far more perspective on what matters than most.

I have to do emissions testing every other year. Thank god for that or I’d for sure be living in Mexico...God forbid my exhaust wasn’t stock...

I get the point of it to a degree. Good tires. Safe brakes. All that stuff. But come on...shaking people down for a different light bulb, tinted windows, or non-OEM wiper blades. Total scam to the core. That’s beyond the realm of assessing safety. That’s the fleecing of pocket books, brother.


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tinted side windows can be a dangerous for the police during a traffic stop.. utah alone has had way too many officers gunned down because they couldnt see what was going on within a vehicle during a stop..

lighting.. that's a tough one, you could do it tastefully and get away with it or you can be that douche bag out there w/ blue as F lighting aimed for air traffic.. i believe the laws are in place to keep those guys off the road

now wipers.. wow that's extreme ..

you know what southern utah could use before its too late... smog testing.. while our air quality is still amazing compared to most places, its starting to degrade with the thousands and thousands of people moving here.. i used to be able to keep my windows down and cruise around without suffocating.. but now we get some nasty unmaintained, modified, diesel or gas engine POS ruining it for the rest of us

just cant win in life
 
What are your thoughts on slow drivers in the slow lane?

How aboooooot hit and runs with no witnesses? Would you leave a note?

:fishing:



Cute. We’re no longer having a rational discussion but good attempt at trolling.


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tinted side windows can be a dangerous for the police during a traffic stop.. utah alone has had way too many officers gunned down because they couldnt see what was going on within a vehicle during a stop..



lighting.. that's a tough one, you could do it tastefully and get away with it or you can be that douche bag out there w/ blue as F lighting aimed for air traffic.. i believe the laws are in place to keep those guys off the road



now wipers.. wow that's extreme ..



you know what southern utah could use before its too late... smog testing.. while our air quality is still amazing compared to most places, its starting to degrade with the thousands and thousands of people moving here.. i used to be able to keep my windows down and cruise around without suffocating.. but now we get some nasty unmaintained, modified, diesel or gas engine POS ruining it for the rest of us



just cant win in life



There’s a disgusting lack of respect for law and law enforcement all together. We won’t disagree on that.

I’m certainly not advocating for obnoxious lighting. I’m pretty sure I never once have given my stance on HIDs in inappropriate housings. My one and only point has already been stated. No need to beat a dead horse.

Now emissions testing is pointless unless the entire state does it. I have to test my vehicle every other year but if I lived one town over (more rural) then I wouldn’t. Soooo...yeah...


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just had to deal with this last night..clown in a lifted z71 must have put the brightest freaking HID's in his rig possible..they were literally blinding and he was driving behind me..luckily the 4r is a little higher so I was able to somewhat keep it out of my eyes, but if I looked in the side mirrors forget it..can't imagine him behind someone in a regular car or passing in the other direction.. They were clearly on low..I know the cops can give tickets for that around here, just not sure how often it happens..
 

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