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#IFS problems
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I hate alignment shops
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Yoter
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If you can I would also like to know a good alignment place in my area, I have struggled with the last three cars I owned to find a really good shop my zip is 94530 :cheers: Thank you!
Bry838
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You doing a 3" lift and then tossing a set of spacers in on top of that to fit those big ole meats?
There's a little more involved than that, I over simplified.
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JayRolla
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Man we have had same experience in the same city. This is brakes plus on powers. I hope they get me close and I will tq my own bolts.
Lca cam bolts 100ftlb? And spc ubj 185-200lbtq?
mountain mike
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Not sure about the cam bolts, but the SPC UBJ is 150.
Seriously call Rex. Beware that they will most likely be a few weeks out. Armorology turned me on to them. If you have any suspension work done at Armorology it goes to Rex for an alignment. They're solid.
white_n_slow
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Lucky's tire shop at 80th and Federal. $60 for the front end of a 4Runner. Just tell them what you're trying to accomplish and don't assume they know what you want and you should be happy.
You can always just be really adamant about what you want and tell them you are prepared to watch the tech the entire time to make sure it is done to your liking. I don't know if you suffer from this problem, but I come off as an easygoing nice guy, which techs think gives them leeway to half-ass the job. At least that's my theory. Don't be afraid to be a jerk.
You can always just be really adamant about what you want and tell them you are prepared to watch the tech the entire time to make sure it is done to your liking. I don't know if you suffer from this problem, but I come off as an easygoing nice guy, which techs think gives them leeway to half-ass the job. At least that's my theory. Don't be afraid to be a jerk.
IBallEngineer
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That well marketed machine can't give you live caster, you must recheck caster after an adjustment to be accurate.
That machine can't give you vehicle dimensions, ie cross diagonal.
That machine can't give you rolling radius either.
But it is a well marketed machine. And as with any tool, only as good as the person using it.
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IBallEngineer
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I'll inquire for you and get back to you. For the record, Haweka is a german company that makes virtually all the tooling for wheel balancers sold by Coats, Hunter and John Bean/Snap-on/Hoffman. So a Haweka adapter doesn't say a whole lot. I believe they are referring to a pin plate adapter and collet as opposed to the cones.
"Road force" is a marketing term made up by Hunter, the actual term is Radial force variation, or RFV. The real problem is that a tire wheel combination can be balanced and still have an RFV that creates a vibration. The Hunter machine and the John Bean or Hoffman equivalent are the only machines sold in the US that can solve this type of problem. But I can't stress enough, it is the TECHNICIAN that will ultimately tell you if match mounting can help or not.
JayRolla
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I can't wait that long. I drive this daily.
JayRolla
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I'm sitting at brakes plus. I'm very nice at first. I hate bringing stuff back and complaining. I told them I want 5* if possible and others in spec. He says they can do it. Bet money I have to show them the uca has Camber adjustment.
I've been doing some digging for the Denver crowd. Most information I've found is at least 2-3 years old. So I hit Yelp and High Country Performance 4x4 has good reviews there (not so good on Google). Does anyone have experience with these folks?
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High Country Performance 4x4 - 10 Photos - Auto Parts & Supplies - Englewood, CO - Reviews - Yelp
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JayRolla
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90% SUCCESS!!
This is going to have to do for now. They said LCA cam bolts slipped, they did not TQ correctly. So they where moving all over the road on me.
New alignment. Steering is off maybe a few degrees. I can live with that for now till I can adjust at the rack. Guess tech didnt know how to fix it with Toe.
Left Right
Camber 0.0* -0.1*
Caster 4.5* 5.3*
Toe .10* .11*
Tires look perfect. Drove the best its ever have since I've owned it. Did not rub backing out, forward or when hitting bumps. Before I could rub just taking a right turn.
This is going to have to do for now. They said LCA cam bolts slipped, they did not TQ correctly. So they where moving all over the road on me.
New alignment. Steering is off maybe a few degrees. I can live with that for now till I can adjust at the rack. Guess tech didnt know how to fix it with Toe.
Left Right
Camber 0.0* -0.1*
Caster 4.5* 5.3*
Toe .10* .11*
Tires look perfect. Drove the best its ever have since I've owned it. Did not rub backing out, forward or when hitting bumps. Before I could rub just taking a right turn.
nevada
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i would just ask you to leave. "if you don't trust me to work on your vehicle, take it somewhere else" simple as that.
nevada
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you have mentioned this a few times, what exactly are you talking about?
if the wheel isn't centered, the alignment isn't finished. they need to get it straight.
if you do any work, or adjustments, you negate everything they have done, and should not expect any free/warranty work in regards to an alignment.
you paid them for it, make sure they do it.
JayRolla
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They centered the rack perfect. You can make adjustments for the steering wheel at the steering shaft where it connects to the steering rack without changing anything on the alignment. Mine was not centered when I installed my rack (my fault). So I could feel the clock spring barely start to bind when I fully turned right.
Now the rack is centered and I just need to adjust maybe one to two teeth over at the steering rack. Not to hard. Just have top pop my body lift steering spacer, pop off the collar at the steering rack and move it over a tooth or two.
Anyways Im going to find another shop that like maybe the Rex Tire mentioned above. I have play in my UBJ and in process of getting it replaced under warranty but Im not crossing my fingers. After I replace that I will bring it to Rex Tire and see if they can do a better job.
I can deal with the 1/4" off steering wheel as long as everything else is good. Would you bring it back to a place that has messed up like that again? NOT ME!! LOL.
sn0wrunner
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I used to work at High Country. Great bunch of guys. They are definitely not the cheapest shop in town. I worked there before they purchased an alignment rack, and we would sub all the alignments out to B&A automotive on Broadway. They are very experienced with aligning lifted toyota's. I'd highly recommend them. I haven't been there in about 2 years, but you can talk to a guy named Kelly if you go there.
B & A Automotive
Thank you sn0wrunner! I will call B&A today and use High Country as my fallback!
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Know a good shop near 32824?
Lower cam bolts are 96ft lbs. Sounds like they made the same mistake to you as me. Sometimes I think the tech is trying to tighten the rear cam bolts by the nut because the bolt face is covered by the steering rack, and if i remember correctly you have to tighten by the bolt head... the nut is part of the cam and will not tighten, just adjust.
Was this the brakes plus on powers and palmer park? If so there seems to be a pattern. Try Les Shwab on north powers, they did pretty good on mine and even took the time to read the SPC instructions, and even ask me as well.
