I made a mistake and bought a Jeep....
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PricklyPete
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I was very tempted to buy a JGC before I bought my 2013 4Runner ... And then I remembered it was a jeep and slapped myself out of it.
Blitzkrieg
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I owned a Wrangler and it never gave me any problems..... I sold it when it had 8K miles. 
I did however have the unfortunate experience of helping my son fix the power window in his Cherokee and the quality of the parts inside that door were deplorable. Complete and utter junk. Plastic with a cheap ass cable to lower and raise everything and Chrysler wanted $190 for the worthless replacement motor.
That was enough for me.
And yes, I have been inside the doors of two 4Runners and the inner workings are top quality. My 2002 had 113K miles when I sold it and none of the power windows nor sunroof even so much as hiccuped. Ever.
I did however have the unfortunate experience of helping my son fix the power window in his Cherokee and the quality of the parts inside that door were deplorable. Complete and utter junk. Plastic with a cheap ass cable to lower and raise everything and Chrysler wanted $190 for the worthless replacement motor.
That was enough for me.
And yes, I have been inside the doors of two 4Runners and the inner workings are top quality. My 2002 had 113K miles when I sold it and none of the power windows nor sunroof even so much as hiccuped. Ever.
The Tacoma and Tundra are built in America. So maybe we should beat the crap out of one those and see how it fares? It was a Toyota pickup that the Top Gear crew tortured-tested...
The 4runner is built in Japan, but it is definitely designed and built with an American customer in mind.....and yes I do realize it is sold in other countries.
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marshal
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being a wrangler loverboy i can tell you why, the heaters in wranglers are powered by the furnaces of hell.
put a knit cap on and take the top off in sub freezing temperatures and the heater on full blast will keep you relatively comfortable at highway speed.
marshal
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rather it was styled with the american customer in mind. the 5th generation 4Runner is in fact a 150 series Land Cruiser Prado - which is globally sold (less north america)
Blitzkrieg
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Remember the mid 80's Toyota pickups that you would see in the 90's and the cabs looked perfect but the beds looked like shit - paint faded, rust always above the rear wheel wells?
Well, I owned one of those and always wondered why. Then a few years ago I found out.
The trucks were made in Japan, shipped to California without a bed (just the cab and chassis) and the beds were made and painted in California then attached to the trucks.
Go figure.
Well, I owned one of those and always wondered why. Then a few years ago I found out.
The trucks were made in Japan, shipped to California without a bed (just the cab and chassis) and the beds were made and painted in California then attached to the trucks.
Go figure.
philsey
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But what about on the walk home?
I have Jeep to thank for my first Cellular, as they were called then, phone.
My 1995 JGC was such a piece of crap, we purchased our first bag phone in case we broke down on the road. I was on my second engine by 17K miles.
The engine vibrated like a cement mixer at idle, discusting.
Never, never again, never
My 1995 JGC was such a piece of crap, we purchased our first bag phone in case we broke down on the road. I was on my second engine by 17K miles.
The engine vibrated like a cement mixer at idle, discusting.
Never, never again, never
marshal
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My 3 jeeps never left me stranded, however they had me worried from time to time.
FrontRange4Runner
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That's all part of the Jeep experience.....
Not just Wranglers, my XJ is the same way. Once that coal heats up, it gets nice and toasty on the coldest of days. The A/C is another story altogether. Unfortunately, I can't remove the top or roll down the tailgate window to get air flow during summer days.
Like I said, I do realize that the 4runner is sold in other countries. I'd be interested in seeing what the sales numbers are across the different regions.
The 4.0L V6, and interior/exterior styling (as you already pointed out), was definitely implemented with an American customer in mind.
marshal
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The 4.0 v6 is also globally supported through the 150 chassis. Diesels may be popular in other countries but so are petrol as well.
That said, I know the 150 prado is one of toyotas best sellers in the LC Market as its a bit cheaper than the 75 and 200 series and is a good size for negotiating tight spaces. I don't know what the exact numbers are though.
The 4.0L is sold globally, as many other petrol engines have been sold in the past, but I'd be willing to bet that if it wasn't for the American market, the 4.0L V6 wouldn't even exist in its current form, or perhaps not at all.
The high displacement, naturally aspirated truck engine is very much an American style of engine, though the Japanese have made such engines on their own. It seems to me that in most other markets, people would just as soon have a diesel if they plan on having a truck for utility and/or recreational purposes.
marshal
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You forget Australia, the third largest truck market in the world trailing Canada. They have a healthy appetite for big engines.
Australians do like big, high-revving engines....in their cars...the Australian supercar series is fun to watch.
Diesels take the cake when it comes to their preferred truck engine.
