i want 5-6" of lift in suspension anyone make this big a lift?

[JLC84cam350]

i already got 2" body lift but i wanted to add another 5 or 6" lift, i thought rough country made a 5.5" lift but i can't find it anywhere at all! the only i can find a are 4" lift kit i found a 4-5" but it just lowers your controle arms i doubt that helps much in suspension travel. I'm guessing my only options are to go with converting to straight front axle but its quiet expensive to do, and i'm kinda scared of having to weld to my frame lol. Thanks for any help.

 

[JLC84cam350]

come on anybody?

 

[fourwd1]

You have IFS, there's only so much you can do to lift it, as you found. You can combine lifts to to a point, such as BJ spacers + tweaking the t-bars a little, or the bracket lifts, etc, but only to a point.

5-6" of suspension lift is pushing it a bit.

 

[JLC84cam350]

ok say i was to convert to a straight front axle, about how much am i looking at? i know i was able to find a couple kits averaging between 1200-1500$ but they don't include the axle its self, how much would it cost for that axle and the drive shaft and then its still a question of raising the rear? Is it bosible to leave it the rear as coil springs and just put 5-6"lift coils? or is their gonna be binding and crap somewhere so that i absolutely have to convert my rear so leaf springs as well. I know it be kinda of a weird mix lol front leafs and rear coils, but i am trying to keep this lift under 2000-2200$. thanks for any response. I'm looking more for used parts if you have any advice thanks.

 

[klr toy]

You need to do some more research....start with some Toyota specific companies such as AllPro Offroad, Marlin Crawler, Trail Gear, etc... All of them have very reasonable and complete kits which will lift the front and rear of your rig. Stay away from junk like Pro-comp and others that specialize in domestic bolt-on garbage. You will quickly find that a solid axle swap will be way cheaper than a bolt-on kit anyway. Besides that, 4" is the most you will find for an IFS truck. Unless of course you are serious about keeping it IFS. Then you will want to look into companies like Total Chaos Fabrication and possibly Fabtech which make long travel suspension setups for IFS trucks. Without going long travel, you are just basically adding spacers for bigger tires and not actually gaining anything as far as being more functional off road. Plan on spending about $350-500 for a good condition complete 85 axle assembly.

 

[ovrrdrive]

How exactly is a $2500 SAS cheaper than a $600 bracket lift?

By the time you get all the parts for an SAS and rebuild the axle ( you are going to start fresh right?) an SAS can get quite expensive...

Granted all a bracket lift does is allow you to run bigger tires, but bigger tires will get you a lot further down the trail and make the truck a lot more capable. Too big and you run the risk of breaking a bunch of parts, but bigger is definitely better to a point.

It's better to SAS if you wheel hard, but if you drive your truck on the street most of the time the bracket lifts are fine as long as you understand the limitations of your truck.

And to answer the original question, a bracket lift with 1.5" bj spacers will give you the 5.5" you're looking for with a near stock ride.

 

[klr toy]

Well, unfortunately for us up here in the great white north, suspension lifts of any kind aren't that cheap! The cheapest Pro-comp kit that I could find when I lifted my 88 extra cab was $2500.00. By the time I added a good set of rear springs to replace the blocks and tires, the total wound up being around $4500.00! I can't imagine what the labor would have cost if I had to pay somebody to install it. I am also a mechanic so am fortunate enough to know what I am doing and have all of the tools. An SAS can be done much cheaper in these parts if one shops around. There are a pile of choices out there for lift springs and the front brackets are relatively cheap by themselves. Not to mention that once converted, there are way more options for improvement down the road. You are very limited with what can be done with an ifs lift. I have had both setups on numerous trucks. I have had way less issues with alignment, bearings, ball joints, etc... with my solid axle and actually find that it rides nicer. I just bought a complete rebuild kit for a front axle for $100 so they really aren't that bad. Also, there are way more gearing options available for the solid axle. Another bonus is that the IFS steering box is already setup for a high-steer conversion. Just my 2 cents...

 

[ovrrdrive]

Well, unfortunately for us up here in the great white north, suspension lifts of any kind aren't that cheap! The cheapest Pro-comp kit that I could find when I lifted my 88 extra cab was $2500.00. By the time I added a good set of rear springs to replace the blocks and tires, the total wound up being around $4500.00! I can't imagine what the labor would have cost if I had to pay somebody to install it. I am also a mechanic so am fortunate enough to know what I am doing and have all of the tools. An SAS can be done much cheaper in these parts if one shops around. There are a pile of choices out there for lift springs and the front brackets are relatively cheap by themselves. Not to mention that once converted, there are way more options for improvement down the road. You are very limited with what can be done with an ifs lift. I have had both setups on numerous trucks. I have had way less issues with alignment, bearings, ball joints, etc... with my solid axle and actually find that it rides nicer. I just bought a complete rebuild kit for a front axle for $100 so they really aren't that bad. Also, there are way more gearing options available for the solid axle. Another bonus is that the IFS steering box is already setup for a high-steer conversion. Just my 2 cents...

I had no idea we had it this good in the states...

I bought a Rough Country 4" bracket lift and got lucky and received a Superlift kit in the mail instead last year. I added a set of ball joint spacers, and some lift springs I got from a guy down the road that were unused for $100. I did all the work myself and saved about $1000 US, added rims and tires and have the lift/tire combo you see in my avatar pic for about $4k.

Given the weaknesses of a bracket lift, I honestly wouldn't pay a cent more for what I have, and if they really are that much in your neck of the woods then I have to agree with every single word in your last post.

Do the SAS and enjoy your truck.

 

[fourwd1]

ok say i was to convert to a straight front axle, about how much am i looking at? i know i was able to find a couple kits averaging between 1200-1500$ but they don't include the axle its self, how much would it cost for that axle and the drive shaft and then its still a question of raising the rear? Is it bosible to leave it the rear as coil springs and just put 5-6"lift coils? or is their gonna be binding and crap somewhere so that i absolutely have to convert my rear so leaf springs as well. I know it be kinda of a weird mix lol front leafs and rear coils, but i am trying to keep this lift under 2000-2200$. thanks for any response. I'm looking more for used parts if you have any advice thanks.

Here in the mid-Atlantic states a used Toy solid front axle (79-85) goes for $200-250.

You will also want to have a cross-over steering kit in your budget for a SAS. You will use your stock steering box with it.

BTW, if you're considering a SAS, you are capable of cutting/welding/grinding/etc, right? Metal working skills/tools are needed.

It's NOT weird to do a SA in the front and keep the coils in the rear. In fact, the rear coil susp is nice. You can get some lift by using Land Cruiser coils. Do some SEARCHing.