iPhone 5 - Who's in?

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I know I'm in the minority here, but I could not be more out. My personal phone is the original HTC Evo & my work phone is an iPhone 4G. Where I do like a couple features the iPhone offers, I'd choose my Evo 9 times out of 10.
Then again, I'm not a phone-a-holic like most people and I certainly don't buy into hype of any kind. In my opinion, Apple is the trendiest brand on the market right now and the iPhone is their golden goose.
On a somewhat related note, it bugs the hell out of me when people post pictures and apologize for the "crappy iPhone" pics. They are soooo proud to announce that they have an iPhone, but feel the need to apologize for the poor quality of the pictures? I gues everyone has their pet peeves :shrug:

Compared to a DSLR, they usually are crappy phone pics. The only real reason they are poor compared to a DSLR is the relatively narrow band of conditions where a phone can take great pics. This was taken at Glacier last summer. Quite a clear photo for a 2 year old phone.

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I don't think there is an Android phone that really bests the 4S. Basically, it is a camera phone condition rather than an iPhone condition.
 
I keep going back and forth on whether or not to pre order on friday. I've currently got a 4 and had a 3g and 3gs. There are a lot more competitive offerings out there now though.

The problem is that the main competition (Android) is all about firepower to overcome significant shortcomings in software. There is a reason why you have big removable battery on most Android...it is either because Android is so damn inefficient that it eats up battery like crazy OR because it crashes at least once a week which requires you to pull the battery to reset it. Don't believe me? Ask most honest Android owners. Been there. Done that. Still doing it actually! :(

Think of it this way...here in the USA, all phones are dual core. Even with the old A5 chip in the 4S, the iPhone is still class leading or near the top against the best of Android till this day.

The A6 chip in the iPhone 5 will be class leading, easily. It will be faster while having way better graphics than Samsung S3. It will be compeitive (if not better) than international version of S3 with quad-core processor because A6 chip has the latest technology in chip production (A15 Cortex).

I know I'm in the minority here, but I could not be more out.

Then again, I'm not a phone-a-holic like most people and I certainly don't buy into hype of any kind. In my opinion, Apple is the trendiest brand on the market right now and the iPhone is their golden goose.
On a somewhat related note, it bugs the hell out of me when people post pictures and apologize for the "crappy iPhone" pics. They are soooo proud to announce that they have an iPhone, but feel the need to apologize for the poor quality of the pictures? I gues everyone has their pet peeves :shrug:

It is not about trendy, it is about stability and how good of a phone it is. I use my phone for work and pleasure. It MUST be reliable. It MUST get good signal. Quite simply, none of the Android phones provide these two features. Samsung makes horrible antennas (at least for CDMA phones).

As for iPhone cameras, the iPhone camera dating back to iPhone 4 has been class-leading. Even now, the 4S camera is still top-notch despite HTC X One and Samsung S3. Yes, these Androids have more features in the cameras...but, the QUALITY of the pictures still favors the 4S. Quality of pictures is what i care most about. The 4S camera has replaced many P&S cameras: Can the iPhone 4S replace a “real” digital camera? Ars investigates | Ars Technica

The iPhone 5 camera is a further refinement of the 4S camera. It is better in low-light which has been a weak point of all camera phones, including the 4S (even tho, it is class-leading for phones). Faster snapshots. Video is better. In other words, for most folks, the iPhone 5 camera will replace their P&S.

It has everything you need until the iPhone 5s comes out next year hahah

Maybe. However, there isn't much out there to really improve upon. I am sure that the 5S will have a better camera and NFC. Camera improvement is always nice...but the current camera is OK for most situations, esp. if low-light is better. And if i get my wish soon, then i will also get Sony RX100 camera. If so, then i will likely use it for most stuff while iPhone camera is my backup. NFC is still in infancy...and not sure if i trust it enough yet. Apple won't change screen size anytime soon. LTE is already here. The current design and body are here to stay since Apple has invested quite a bit of money into it. Now, it would be nice to have a sapphire glass instead of Gorilla glass...but that would probably make it as expensive as a Rolex! BTW, sapphire glass on the iPhone 5 camera lens is pure genius!! Sapphire cannot be scratched unless you use a diamond. In other words, the camera lens will remain perfect for years to come.
 
Phones only have about a 2 year lifespan so longevity isn't really a factor to me and I have the Galaxy S2 and no complaints here and no need to update plugs and such and why would Apple do this as it seems to screw loyal Apple buyers.
I'm just not ga-ga over Apple products outside my iPod but the iPhone is very nice but not nice enough to draw me away from my Android. I do like having removeable memory and my battery lasts forever compared to my friends iPhone4.
 
Apple will sell adaptor for the new plugs. The reason for the new plug is to save space for other things (LTE radio, bigger battery, etc).

Why do you need removable memory?
 
I'll be pre-ordering the black 32gb tomorrow.

Very happy with my iPhone 4 but it's gotten a little long in the tooth, which is expected and fine for a 2+ year old phone.
 
I had an iPhone4, no thanks. Hated having to sync everything through iTunes. I need my phone to act as a little computer on its own all the time without having to sync it for every little thing. I sold it and bought a Droid Razr Maxx. Zero problems with that phone, it is lighter than the 4 was, better battery life, and is slimmer and easier to carry around in my pocket.

I have tried both and for the money the Droid is just a better phone. I would get the new Samsung Galaxy if I had to have another phoneright now.
 
On a somewhat related note, it bugs the hell out of me when people post pictures and apologize for the "crappy iPhone" pics. They are soooo proud to announce that they have an iPhone, but feel the need to apologize for the poor quality of the pictures? I gues everyone has their pet peeves :shrug:

I do this, but it's the truth. My 3GS does take low quality pics. When on a forum, if I want to share something, I want you guys to get a good picture to see what I'm talking about. I like my iPhone, but I don't gloat that I have one. I don't mention that I have an iPhone intentionally, it just comes out.

Anyway, most smart phones last about 2 years. It stinks, but it is what it is. iPhones works great for me, so I'll be upgrading soon.
 
I had an iPhone4, no thanks. Hated having to sync everything through iTunes. I need my phone to act as a little computer on its own all the time without having to sync it for every little thing. I sold it and bought a Droid Razr Maxx. Zero problems with that phone, it is lighter than the 4 was, better battery life, and is slimmer and easier to carry around in my pocket.

I have tried both and for the money the Droid is just a better phone. I would get the new Samsung Galaxy if I had to have another phoneright now.

I would stay away from Samsung...if you have CDMA (Sprint & Verizon). Their antennas can't pick up a decent cell signal! Stick with your Motorola because Moto makes nice reception smartphones. A smartphone (e.g. Samsung) that cannot function as a phone is useless to me.

As for iPhone, everything can be done in the cloud now. You did know that when you got the Razr Maxx, right? Razr Maxx is thinner than iPhone 4?
 
I had an iPhone4, no thanks. Hated having to sync everything through iTunes. I need my phone to act as a little computer on its own all the time without having to sync it for every little thing. I sold it and bought a Droid Razr Maxx. Zero problems with that phone, it is lighter than the 4 was, better battery life, and is slimmer and easier to carry around in my pocket.

I have tried both and for the money the Droid is just a better phone. I would get the new Samsung Galaxy if I had to have another phoneright now.

I've had 2 iphones, and I've used itunes a total of about 4 times. I don't like it, and it's not really necessary. I do software updates right on the phone, and now with the cloud you can back up wirelessly if need be.

Also, droid is an OS, not a phone.
 
The problem is that the main competition (Android) is all about firepower to overcome significant shortcomings in software. There is a reason why you have big removable battery on most Android...it is either because Android is so damn inefficient that it eats up battery like crazy OR because it crashes at least once a week which requires you to pull the battery to reset it. Don't believe me? Ask most honest Android owners. Been there. Done that. Still doing it actually! :(

Think of it this way...here in the USA, all phones are dual core. Even with the old A5 chip in the 4S, the iPhone is still class leading or near the top against the best of Android till this day.

The A6 chip in the iPhone 5 will be class leading, easily. It will be faster while having way better graphics than Samsung S3. It will be compeitive (if not better) than international version of S3 with quad-core processor because A6 chip has the latest technology in chip production (A15 Cortex).

Yep, I agree with most of the points you made. I got 'fooled' by all the android fans into buying a samsung tablet. Was very disappointed in it with frequent app crashes, freezes, hanging, or apps that just plain wouldn't run on it. I finally sold it just a couple months ago and lost like $400 on it.

A lot of the sites I visit seem to be filled with android fan bois though. If you're ever bored, I've been having this battle over at Hondasociety since the iPhone 4 was first leaked. It gets old though, because its mostly android fans over there, but they do occasionally make some points. Official HS Smartphone Thread - Page 72 - HondaSociety Web Community
 
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A lot of the sites a visit seemed to be filled with android fan bois though. If you're ever bored, I've been having this battle over at Hondasociety since the iPhone 4 was first leaked. It gets old though, because its mostly android fans over there, but they do occasionally make some points. Official HS Smartphone Thread - Page 72 - HondaSociety Web Community

Well, unfortunately, most of what i read in that thread is from folks who have not owned a recent iPhone. All of what i read is based on fanboy bashing by Android folks. They are basically spec-racing. Unfortunately, how a smartphone functions is related to more than just specs...it is about how it all comes together. I know this because i was a former Android fan (way before being an Apple fan).

Android makes up for crappy software with tons of hardware firepower. This looks great to the spec-racers, but does little to improve user interface and friendliness.

Want proof for your thread? Sprint (USA CDMA #3 service provider) has long been an Android supporter/friend because, up until November 2011, Sprint only offered Android phones to its customers and they were losing customers left and right to ATT (and later Verizon) because they did not offer iPhones.
Sprint went on to pay a HUGE amount of cash for iPhone rights.

Link: Steady iPhone Sales Keep Bringing New Customers to Sprint - John Paczkowski - News - AllThingsD

Dan Hesse, CEO of Sprint, said this (from article):

“We are beginning to see benefits from the iPhone,” Hesse said during Sprint’s earnings call this morning. “Early life churn is better than on other smartphones, calls to [customer] care are significantly lower than on other devices, service and repair and returns are all lower than on other devices. All the important early metrics indicate we made the right decision. … We are ahead of the pace to meet our contracted commitments to Apple.”

This is straight from one of Android's biggest supporter. Enough said. Android turnover rate? Android return customer rate? Android satisfaction rate? And don't let anyone say that Apple ecosystem is to 'blame"...Android/Google ecosystem is now as inclusive as Apple! You can rent/buy movies, books, apps, etc. all with Android/Google.
 
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BTW, iPhone 4S dual core processor is clocked at 800 Mhz and 500 MB RAM. Yet, despite these humbled specs, the actual performance rivals the best of Android dual cores, regardless of Mhz and/or GB RAM. THAT is embarrassing for Android folks! :D

More on the A6 chip: What do we know about Apple’s new A6 processor? | Ars Technica

So basically, if I'm understanding this correctly, if the A6 is based on the new A15 architecture as they suspect, it would be more powerful and more power efficient than any dual or even quad cores currently on the market?
 
So basically, if I'm understanding this correctly, if the A6 is based on the new A15 architecture as they suspect, it would be more powerful and more power efficient than any dual or even quad cores currently on the market?

It will be faster than any dual cores on the market now for sure. As for quad cores, it will be very competitive in CPU. Being Apple is very much into gaming, the GPU will likely be class leading, bar none. BUT, the biggest thing is that A6 will provide "quad core" like CPU performance (and excellent GPU performance) while using very little battery juice. There isn't a quad core in the world that can claim that.

A6 represents the best of the best right now...class leading performance with minimal battery consumption. And this is why A6 + LTE does not represent a battery hog like it does with Android phones (even those with basic dual cores).
 
iPhone 4 owner since June 24, 2010 and preordering either a 32 or 64 gb iPhone 5 tomorrow. Ahh, such hard decisions.
 
I have used android since the original android phone came out (G1 from t-mobile) I am finally making the switch and pre-ordering the iphone 5 16gb tonight. I don't need 32 or 64gb, thats what I have a 80gb Ipod for lol. I am a big apple fan and use mac and ipod/ipad, so I figured it would be able to integrate better. my wife has a 3Gs and loves it, and will be getting one also. I had the galaxy Nexus, and I was not impressed at all. not much better than my Evo 3D (stupid idea lol) so I returned it and waited for this.

to get on to another point, what carrier are all of you going with? I am with sprint right now and am switching over to Verizon. they have LTE in my area (sprint does not and won't for over a year) and their service is actually cheaper lol. I know they don't have unlimited data, but I don't need it. barely ever go over 1GB and the wife uses maybe 250mb. Sprint also has horrific customer service. worst I've ever had in my life. I used to work for T-mobile as a tech rep and we had pretty good customer service, T-mobile just doesn't get that good of coverage, plus no Iphone lol.

anyone know how much applecare is for the new Iphone?
 
So, are we going to be able to preorder tonight at midnight? or does anyone know what time Apple will start taking pre orders?
 
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