Just dropped of the 4Runner at the dealer and left in a rental.

[pumacat24]

Yes it looks like you had quite an ordeal. Fortunately you found a dealer who is willing to help instead of just saying it's normal. We were all hoping your dealer came up with a fix which can be passed on to all of us.

I know, I was hoping for that gold ticket TSB for myself and everyone else too. [emoji27]


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[Signal]

Yeah, it sucks.

I’ve been on the phone with Toyota 3x today.

Regional is very helpful and they are ready to replace it, but the National people were a bit more apprehensive.

I can’t blame them, they have to verify everything with the Regional people and will get back to me in 1-2 business days.

So it seems that even though I have been told they will replace it, it’s not so simple.

They National guy even threw out if I had to file a lemon law claim. Let’s just says they don’t want me to take that route.

Hopefully everything will move smoothly once he verifies everything with the regional guys.

Ugh. I just want to be in a Pro and for this to be OVER.


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They told me that after it is seen 3 time I need to call and file a claim for the lemon law I really like this think I just hate having the issues. They called tonight and said the radio isn't in and it should be there tomorrow morning. I told them to throw the trd wheels and tires on there and see if it shakes. I have a friend that works at the dealer and they said to check the date on the tires. I didn't know tires have a expiration date on them

 

[Salvo Jimmy]

They told me that after it is seen 3 time I need to call and file a claim for the lemon law I really like this think I just hate having the issues. They called tonight and said the radio isn't in and it should be there tomorrow morning. I told them to throw the trd wheels and tires on there and see if it shakes. I have a friend that works at the dealer and they said to check the date on the tires. I didn't know tires have a expiration date on them

Tires have a manufactured date and manufacturers recommend not using them after a number of years. Recall 6-7 years, but might be longer now.

 

[Kaelindon]

I had a Similar issue I fixed it with Roter swaps

 

[Signal]

The radio never showed up, the order was canceled so I will be going back to the dealer to get the radio fixed on another Friday. today makes number 8 for fridyts spent at the dealer this year since Feb just for the radio issues. and yesterday marks the 4th or 5th Thursday for the shake. I am really glad I didn't start buying body armor and other parts for this thing. They called today to say the shaking has stopped for now and the radio will be ordered again and I will have to go back up there when it comes in again. I had high hopes of Toyota, and now I wish I never got rid of my Xterra. everything worked in it. I will wait to see if the shake comes back in a few days. I am thinking maybe if we decide to keep it if we replace the wheels and tires and add a lift, it will stop.

 

[WhiteRunner10]

Lots of hate on the Jeep casually mentioned in this thread. My new 2018 JL Rubicon has more off road options stock, a better drive train, and hasn't seen the dealership for anything unrelated to scheduled maintenance. Oh yeah and it came stock with a lift, 33s, led headlights, aux switches, locking front and rear, auto sway bar disconnects, 8inch display screen.... That's not all but u get the point....

 

[Charlievee]

Lots of hate on the Jeep casually mentioned in this thread. My new 2018 JL Rubicon has more off road options stock, a better drive train, and hasn't seen the dealership for anything unrelated to scheduled maintenance. Oh yeah and it came stock with a lift, 33s, led headlights, aux switches, locking front and rear, auto sway bar disconnects, 8inch display screen.... That's not all but u get the point....

Well now you gone and annoyed all the fanboys.

 

[Charlievee]

Why is the dealer not reaching out to corporate?

 

[Signal]

Well now you gone and annoyed all the fanboys.

Oh boy.

 

[Signal]

Why is the dealer not reaching out to corporate?

No clue. I just got it back and was told they will call me when the radio arrives so I can take it back. The shaking has stopped for now but we will see in a few days.

 

[WhiteRunner10]

Well now you gone and annoyed all the fanboys.

Screw them. Capitalism is a wonderful thing. Competition is a wonderful thing. I hope Toyota is sweating bullets over loss of market share the new JL and future Bronco is creating. Let's face it, they havent done much but collect checks for 9 years now. Just change a color and slap some new styled off road stickers on the frame, selling them for close to or at 50k. Bring on the competition.

Oh boy.

Good luck OP.

 

[BigCountryT4R]

Lots of hate on the Jeep casually mentioned in this thread. My new 2018 JL Rubicon has more off road options stock, a better drive train, and hasn't seen the dealership for anything unrelated to scheduled maintenance. Oh yeah and it came stock with a lift, 33s, led headlights, aux switches, locking front and rear, auto sway bar disconnects, 8inch display screen.... That's not all but u get the point....

And that just happened in the last year. The Jeep was dated as is the 4Runner. It will get updates soon as well. Hard to compare a 1 year newly redesigned vehicle to a 9 year old design.


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[euser]

Lots of hate on the Jeep casually mentioned in this thread. My new 2018 JL Rubicon has more off road options stock, a better drive train, and hasn't seen the dealership for anything unrelated to scheduled maintenance. Oh yeah and it came stock with a lift, 33s, led headlights, aux switches, locking front and rear, auto sway bar disconnects, 8inch display screen.... That's not all but u get the point....

All modern vehicles are fairly reliable nowadays if you don’t get a lemon. Was it also $40k like a regular 4Runner? Oh wait the Rubicon is $60k. You can’t compare vehicles that are nowhere close to the same price range and act like all its extra features make it the superior option. Might as well compare a Tacoma to the raptor. High end jeeps are nice, but not a real 4Runner competitor.

 

[WhiteRunner10]

All modern vehicles are fairly reliable nowadays if you don’t get a lemon. Was it also $40k like a regular 4Runner? Oh wait the Rubicon is $60k. You can’t compare vehicles that are nowhere close to the same price range and act like all its extra features make it the superior option. Might as well compare a Tacoma to the raptor. High end jeeps are nice, but not a real 4Runner competitor.

How much is a trd pro 4runner?? 45-50k??? That's insane!. My new FULLY LOADED JL was 55k. We arent even taking into account the features most 4runner owners add to their rig to get it somewhere close in capability to a stock rubi. Shit just getting the lift and 33s is a ~5k mod.

My comparison was top end JL vs top end 4runner.
I said Trd pro in my quote. The comparison is a joke. The 4runner is an embarrassment at the price Toyota is charging. Its not just the 4runner Toyota does this with. I just read an article showing the Trd Pro Tundra is more expensive than a Raptor by 600.00!

My point in all this was all the fan boys should love the competition because it forces Toyota out of the rut they have been in for the last 9 years. The Bronco and JL will absolutely force Toyota to put out a better 4runner. So quit hating on Jeeps, they have the superior product currently which is GOOD for Toyota fans waiting for the new 6th gen 4runner.
Competition keeps a company honest and innovative. I hope the Bronco is insanely good and that the JL gets even better with small tweaks. I want a strong 4x4 segment because the consumer wins.

 

[cb1111]

FCA makes money on the sales, repairs and more repairs. While the JL may be competent and more "modern", it isn't nearly as bulletproof as the Toyota 4R/LC or Lexus GX/LX.

Which car would you rather have in the middle of nowhere?

 

[BigCountryT4R]

How much is a trd pro 4runner?? 45-50k??? That's insane!. My new FULLY LOADED JL was 55k. We arent even taking into account the features most 4runner owners add to their rig to get it somewhere close in capability to a stock rubi. Shit just getting the lift and 33s is a ~5k mod.



My comparison was top end JL vs top end 4runner.

I said Trd pro in my quote. The comparison is a joke. The 4runner is an embarrassment at the price Toyota is charging. Its not just the 4runner Toyota does this with. I just read an article showing the Trd Pro Tundra is more expensive than a Raptor by 600.00!



My point in all this was all the fan boys should love the competition because it forces Toyota out of the rut they have been in for the last 9 years. The Bronco and JL will absolutely force Toyota to put out a better 4runner. So quit hating on Jeeps, they have the superior product currently which is GOOD for Toyota fans waiting for the new 6th gen 4runner.

Competition keeps a company honest and innovative. I hope the Bronco is insanely good and that the JL gets even better with small tweaks. I want a strong 4x4 segment because the consumer wins.

Superior in off-roading maybe but not even close to reliability. I will never buy anything from fiat/Chrysler again after every one had electrical and mechanical issues.

The 4Runner is also better on regular roads than a Jeep and better on the highway. It’s overall a better overlander.


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[WhiteRunner10]

FCA makes money on the sales, repairs and more repairs. While the JL may be competent and more "modern", it isn't nearly as bulletproof as the Toyota 4R/LC or Lexus GX/LX.

Which car would you rather have in the middle of nowhere?

For 50k? 2016 Land Cruiser. To your point I love the LC power and reliability.

If it was between my wife's Rubi and a trd 4runner? Rubi. We dont take my 4runner on trips. We take her Jeep.

 

[WhiteRunner10]

Superior in off-roading maybe but not even close to reliability. I will never buy anything from fiat/Chrysler again after every one had electrical and mechanical issues.

The 4Runner is also better on regular roads than a Jeep and better on the highway. It’s overall a better overlander.


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I agree with this. I will say that the JL is much better on the road than the JK was. I think this gap has closed some. However the 4runner having more room is a big plus for the overlander crowd.

 

[WNY PAT]

I had a 2013 JK 2 door with LS rear, 35s, loaded. Paid about $38,000 for it back then. I drove it a lot, sold it when it had about 80,000 miles on the clock. I do t remember having any real issues mechanically at all. Loved taking the top and doors off and cursing and it was a beast in the snow. The 4R is better on the road, largely due to the softer suspension. Around these parts, for my kind of driving, lockers aren’t a big deal. A good limited slip or electronic traction control like A Trac among with good winter tires are everything I need and more for snow covered roads and even deep snow. That said, unless Toyota engineers a truck from the ground up to really compete head to head with a Rubicon, a 4R isnt going to be able to hang with the JL in severe off road situations without a lot of mods. Both are capable of more than most owners will ever do with them. It’s too bad that Toyota retired the FJ. The 6 speed manual with FT 4WD, factory rear locker, crawl control and A trac along with stock 35” tires and other goodies was something that could go head to head with the JLRU. And with the full time 4WD system, it was a more compelling daily driver for someone like me who drives a lot in the snow.

 

[cb1111]

I agree with this. I will say that the JL is much better on the road than the JK was. I think this gap has closed some. However the 4runner having more room is a big plus for the overlander crowd.

The JK was a joke on the highway in stock format and was downright scary in bad weather at night on a freeway.

The JL is far better but ergonomics still aren't great.